You defense why you chosen me is linking to someone elses post. Why not one of your own on me? You have a few. Also if you had noticed I was questioning Tys actions prior to Sophias post anyhow. I find it strange you wouldnt use your shot on Terras replacement who you spent so much time on yesterday.
In seems a waste of a shot especially when Im (going into D3) a likely lynch candidate. Had you used it on Sorian you couldve at least closed that lead.
I can give you credit for going this gambit. Ballsy.
I think we have our scum now team in hyper, Ty, ynny and maybe fire depending on the setup.
with a cop claim, it's easy to call bullshit. just lynch the accused and if the flip is town, lynch the one claiming cop. 1 vs 1 trade isn't bad for town, really.
with a cop claim, it's easy to call bullshit. just lynch the accused and if the flip is town, lynch the one claiming cop. 1 vs 1 trade isn't bad for town, really.
with a cop claim, it's easy to call bullshit. just lynch the accused and if the flip is town, lynch the one claiming cop. 1 vs 1 trade isn't bad for town, really.
oh no, we can always scumhunt! i just had to come in with my result from last night because i was super happy to find a scum ^____^
we can use the remaining of the day to talk about anything we want! like, i think town can looksie people's reactions throughout the day and then use that information to find your partner.
why arent you voting for me if you really are calling me a liar, though???? i would vote the liar if i was in your shoes but.... i guess you know for sure that im actually right about you, right?
i donno about 'us guys' mislynching sky. i was the one holding the unpopular view that he was town.
oh no, we can always scumhunt! i just had to come in with my result from last night because i was super happy to find a scum ^____^
we can use the remaining of the day to talk about anything we want! like, i think town can looksie people's reactions throughout the day and then use that information to find your partner.
why arent you voting for me if you really are calling me a liar, though???? i would vote the liar if i was in your shoes but.... i guess you know for sure that im actually right about you, right?
i donno about 'us guys' mislynching sky. i was the one holding the unpopular view that he was town.
1 to 1 trade is lynching someone who is accused by someone else claiming cop to test if the one claiming cop is telling the truth or not. lynching someone else outside the equation is not how 1 to 1 trade work....
we're at 9 now. town had one mislynch. 1 to 1 trade at a later stage is actually more dangerous for town. so this is actually not a bad place for town to be, right now.
and when you flip maf, town will be at a better position to hunt for the remaining scum member yay :>
and thank you for taking the effort to spell my name right with your vote o7 (vote tool will work regardless of capitalisation, just as an fyi) (i know my nick is a pain in the butts to spell)
1 to 1 trade is lynching someone who is accused by someone else claiming cop to test if the one claiming cop is telling the truth or not. lynching someone else outside the equation is not how 1 to 1 trade work....
we're at 9 now. town had one mislynch. 1 to 1 trade at a later stage is actually more dangerous for town. so this is actually not a bad place for town to be, right now.
and when you flip maf, town will be at a better position to hunt for the remaining scum member yay :>
and thank you for taking the effort to spell my name right with your vote o7 (vote tool will work regardless of capitalisation, just as an fyi) (i know my nick is a pain in the butts to spell)
also i find it telling that i had to prompt her vote on me. i know she said my nick is hard to type, but come on, we're playing forum mafia. if i was legit calling someone a liar, i'd have lashed out and made the effort to strike back and lay down a vote without having to be called out for it~
OK. But maybe lynching the people that start backstabbing town would be a better go. Ynny have tunneled on me since D1, she cooled on D2 when it didn't get traction and now is going after me again as easy target.
As a narrative, I can't be scum.
Doesn't make sense.
And I was right about being targeted with LP because it is still happening.
OK. But maybe lynching the people that start backstabbing town would be a better go. Ynny have tunneled on me since D1, she cooled on D2 when it didn't get traction and now is going after me again as easy target.
As a narrative, I can't be scum.
Doesn't make sense.
And I was right about being targeted with LP because it is still happening.
OK. But maybe lynching the people that start backstabbing town would be a better go. Ynny have tunneled on me since D1, she cooled on D2 when it didn't get traction and now is going after me again as easy target.
As a narrative, I can't be scum.
Doesn't make sense.
And I was right about being targeted with LP because it is still happening.
Look, a cop claims scum, you lynch the target and if they flip town you lynch the cop. Especially in a set up you know doesn't contain insane cops, switchers, etc.
Sorry mate.
You can't defend yourself from this lynch. Your best bet is to stop throwing shade at Yn, because she is definitely gone if you are town, and actively hunt for scum so that if you flip town we have some actual worthwhile discussion from you to look back over.
Way back in Danganronpa, we (scum) ended up in a pretty bad situation with a shitload of confirmed (or "confirmed") townies that outnumbered the pool of lynch able players (which included all the scum). Town was aware of its strong advantage, so the remaining scum chose to throw a curveball by NKing one of the few townies that could still have been lynched. It was hoped that this would spook town into changing course.
so it is the absence of multiple kills each night that points to the 3 scum set up? ....okay, i see.
thanks kawuru o7
sorian, i thought that's the standard SK? i saw the ones played in the past GAFia games have all been that way. They had to attempt a kill every night phase.
so it is the absence of multiple kills each night that points to the 3 scum set up? ....okay, i see.
thanks kawuru o7
sorian, i thought that's the standard SK? i saw the ones played in the past GAFia games have all been that way. They had to attempt a kill every night phase.
That was always mod discretion, PW SK wasn't required to kill for example. It would be completely ineffective most likely but a SK could play as a survivor if they wanted to unless I'm missing a rule somewhere.
That was always mod discretion, PW SK wasn't required to kill for example. It would be completely ineffective most likely but a SK could play as a survivor if they wanted to unless I'm missing a rule somewhere.
Way back in Danganronpa, we (scum) ended up in a pretty bad situation with a shitload of confirmed (or "confirmed") townies that outnumbered the pool of lynch able players (which included all the scum). Town was aware of its strong advantage, so the remaining scum chose to throw a curveball by NKing one of the few townies that could still have been lynched. It was hoped that this would spook town into changing course.
That was always mod discretion, PW SK wasn't required to kill for example. It would be completely ineffective most likely but a SK could play as a survivor if they wanted to unless I'm missing a rule somewhere.
tbh the one i remembered clearly was kark from season 1, the others were imprinted upon by that particular SK set up, but yeah, i thought i have heard a few times in GAFia that SKs are generally compelled to attempt a kill every night.
but, mmm, i admit i didn't follow PW closely so i thank you for that information o7
It's interesting to note that it seems from the win percentages on this set up type that SK cannabalizes scum win chance. It's also used as a way to weaken scum it seems compared to the amount of power roles town has.
I'm a bit disappointed we don't have a SK and apparently no vig.
If we do have a one shot lurking around can you shoot Ty pretty please?
im going to ISO a few players soon, just in case maf will kill me tonight, i wanna leave a good trail of thoughts.
first up is STANLEYPALMTREE
so he began with a post saying that he had expected the gafia meta to carry through to this game but apparently we were having a productive scumhunting D1 and he was surprised. he was also proclaiming #teampeek (bear this in mind, he later didn't report a peek) though he also questioned the plan:
you know i was hoping to use that community roomonfire gif when i finally got to post, but yall are acting completely civil and having reasonable discussions in here.
who are you and what have you done with Gafia?
anyway, while i wasn't able to post earlier, i did find a few moments to keep up with the thread and so i have had plenty of time to consider the peeking tom plan of action, and i honestly think its a good idea, cant find any reall problems with it.
consider me #teampeek
however, on that note i did think of a possible sticky situation that might arise from this plan that i dont think anyone else has mentioned.
it comes from the issue of having to maintain the facade of having confirmed another player to be certainly town, when you have no such confirmation. while you may have been heavily leaning town on this player when you made the peak claim, but if that opinion changes (as reads so often do) you are kinda stuck keeping it to yourself, which would be especially problematic if you may have picked up on something scummy about said player that others missed.
its a small issue, but one i do think we should consder.
then he followed through with a slight push towards the plan but with a persistent disclaimer against it, in that it had to be EVERYONE or that it would be pointless:
not a bad idea at all for how to get around this wrinkle,
my initial idea was to just hope it didn't happen, and in the event that it did the player who made the read would just have to use their best judgement on if breaking kayfabe was worth it, but this would work a lot better.
only issue with it is its another layer to the plan that everyone has to play by, else the whole thing becomes kinda pointless.
the next post is a little gem. he called sophia out for calling me for coasting. this is great because if there was anyone who was coasting at that stage, it would be stanley and terrabyte20xx.
This feels like a Brexit joke just waiting to happen
i got a weird feeling from Sophia's aggression here,
particularly getting on Yin's case about coasting posts, when we were like 8 hours into the game at that point so obviously people wouldn't have a a lot to talk about.
although the similar attitude toward both yin and sky stops me from thinking it was an early busing attempt, and more just an excessive attempt to put pressure on whoever she can.
probably not that bad of an idea in this bold new world of 24hr day phases
the following two posts are soft shades at kawl, but not enough to lay a vote. they are what i call FLUID POSITIONING posts, which are often a scummy tell:
this bugged me,
though i cant decide if its the guilttriping people into going with his plan, or just setting up an easy opportunity to accuse someone of being scum.
then followed a few back and forth with cabot about cabot's joke-vote on me at the start of the game. not sure how i would describe them, except that they were another set statements saying that i was hard to read for him.
however, the two following posts after that made me townread stanley since he took a solid stance against someone without much prompts:
not much has happened yet to really make me think any particular player should be lynched.
right now point im probably leaning toward Lone or Terra.
i should be here for the days end (which i think might be a first for me) so hopefully ill have a more confident target then.
aw, you didnt see Caboot and Cobat? ill make sure to introduce you to them next time they are around. You all have a lot in common, i bet you would hit it right off.
actually i think ill put my money where my mouth is, in case i dont actually get to check in
day end is 9am for me, so the odds of me being up early enough to participate are... iffy
Furthermore, he didn't move his vote at the end of the day, and this made me townread him a little further. He wasn't concerned about positioning his vote one way or another for later analysis.
hello
iv had a moment to skim through the thread, wasnt able to go in on the huger posts (hopefully they were full of the usual hot air).
right now, i see no reason to move my vote on terra.
very surprised to see L_P was cop, honestly was thinking he was scummy, but i guess that was just him trying to keep a low profile.
im still feeling the most scum from Terra, mostly for the same reasons as yesterday.
but i do feel somewhat conflicted about this now, mostly inretrospect of yesterdays vote coming down to a thunderdome (im using this term correctly, right?) between Hyper and Terra.
it just feels weird to think that scum would alow that kinda situation to happen.
but then 1 scum was already stuck in said thunderdome, so maybe the remaning scums efforts wouldn't have been enough to prevent it, and they didnt want to try to hard and risk coming off as obvious about it?
anyone, please stop me if this is sounding completely wrong, im honestly not used to playing mafia with... you know, logic.
his next post was a little wishywashy, mostly saying that his hunches on hyper was correctish, and that he didn't report a peek cuz he thought it wasn't going to be useful.
sure.
before i had gone to sleep there was little movement against hyper so i had barely thought about him, i noticed that he hadn't said much outside of peek discussion, but there was still time in the day phase so i felt he still had plenty opportunity to contribute.
after waking up and quickly catching up, my skimming through gave me the impression that he was being overly defensive, dedicating all his effort trying to save himself instead of trying to actually contribute to town and find any other scum, which is an effort i always find more redeming than just saying "nuh uh" to whoevers acusing you.
but as i said it was a quick skim, and not something i would have felt confident putting my own vote toward, especially having skipped some of the larger posts.
but i didnt need to, because when catching up i saw that terra had barely made a single signifigant post, so my already fairly confident vote on him only felt better. (a feeling that still persists)
it was clear that it was going toward either hyper or terra being lynched, i was okay with either one. and felt it would be fine to leave it up to the rest of town.
having had the time to digest it all now i see my initial impression of hyper to be pretty much correct.
unfortunately i cant think of anything that jumped out at me in regards to his interactions with other players,
but im about to reread through the thread so hey hopefully that will give me something more substantial to go on.
and about the peek, i honestly thought i would be pointless now that the cop died, if there was still a real reason to go through with it that i have now screwed up then i am really sorry.
1. right now i only have a scummy vibe from sky (aside from terra i mean), but im feeling very out of date with the game right now, hence my going through the thread again.
2. well the points are sounding fine, but i barely remember most of what they are referring to so i want to look through it myself (with the context that these kinds of accusations often conveniently miss).
3. not really, but as i just said i didn't think it mattered anymore, so im inclined to think that anyone else not following through did so for the same reasons. its not a terrible place to go looking for scum, but i doubt the results will come out very convincing.
oh and speaking of the peeking thing.
Kawl, New Zealand is not "down under"
thats just Australia.
saying NZ is down under is not cool.
okay so were doubling down on this but i really dont understand it, what makes this so scummy?
from what i understand with the cop dead, there is a chance that we have a 1 shot cop, but how does peeking help them? whats stoping them from just coming out with thier 1 shot after its used if they arnt any special threat to scum anymore?
but the post after that had a hint of honest self awareness, saying that he realized his bias. not a winner of a post, but one that made me felt that he was genuine.
okay this does make more sense, still feels like its look for scum in the wrong place thouhg.
but obviously im just a tad completely biased here.
no brilliant insights just yet (well, actually something Fb said gave me a reall neat/insane idea for a ZTD themed mafia game.) but i am only halfway through my reread.
brains is feeling mushy today so its slow going.
although as for the post requirement im actually quite liking it, it feels like just the right motivation to be have the people who might otherwise be quite inactive (like me) keeping the discussion going.
but then his next post after was a little mixed bag. it read wishywashy on skyodin and melon, in fact, he sort of just adopted my position on sky-o. but i did notice that he came out quite openly about feeling good about sophia, with a reasoning of her playstyle.
well that took so much longer than it should have. honestly i dont think i even learned much from it.
i got good vibes from Sophia, suspicions against her seemed mostly unfounded, i got the feeling that people are unnerved by her rather detached analysis of other players, and they mistake that weird feeling for scum vibes.
Skyodin im on the fence about, logic points toward him being scum, but my gut is giving me feelings similar to what Yin described, that his inconsistencies and other mistakes are more from timidity, and trying hard to make more significant contributions to the game.
but then he also played the "well what when i flip town huh?" card and thats never a good sign.
all in all i give this a tenuous should probably maybe be lynched
for melon, maybe this is because im typing this at 2 am but i dont know whatthe hel to think here, i dont get any feeling either way. gahddamnit.
because it was a small idea i got from reading through a whole lot of posts,
im not committed to the feeling and wasn't trying to convince anyone that it was fact, i just thought it was possible situation that was worth bringing to peoples attention.
sorry if i made it seem like it was more than that.
though to be fair, he has been consistently wishywashy about certain people (sky-o, fireblend, melon) and consistently not wishywashy about certain other people (terrabyte, sophia, me)
so, all in all, i read stanley as SLIGHTLY TOWN. just barely.
(sorry for the long read. took a while to put that together)
Lynch me today and YNNY tomorrow after I flip town. Instead of being idle and not accomplishing anything we need to focus on the long-term and better protect the town from scum further causing us to turn on each other. We got really lucky D1 and got hyper and I think they felt the pressure and are now laying the ground to steamroll us.
So what do we know?
There are likely 3 scums. Exact roles undetermined but we at least have some clues about who they are/were --
- Hyper was scum (and needs to stick to the dead thread)
- YNNY is scum or worse
- And now we have to look and determine whom the remaining scum is.
I believe Ty4ons actions during the last two days have given enough evidence of suspicion. If you want to actually listen to specific again Ill advise you to my previous posts.
Rereading the thread and giving special attention to how D2 closed. Sorian is there other person that stands out to me. Apparently this town has a short memory given how suspiciously Terra acted and now youre not even questioning Sorians behavior and accept him as town when he basically took control of how the vote when down yesterday and made sure you lynched Sky.
If you recalled we had a 4-3 for Sky, Ty. The two votes for Terra were all but locked in because both Stan and YNNY were asleep.
Sorian swoops in to chats with Ty about how unlikely he was getting lynched:
Piggybacking on this as a I read more, the fact that Ty4on isn't changing behavior at all tells me he gives no shits about this accusation so either he is town with nothing to lose or he isn't worried about melon getting the lynch.
So what is this now? 4-4 Sky and Ty4on? So we aren't extremely surprised here, I'm voting Sky if we come down to that, I'm not seeing scum Ty4on here. Sky is more likely if not my first choice. My first is fluctuating between cabot and melon. I'll change to this though for now.
VOTE: melonrabbit
The penalty for being wrong is a lost less with melon than it is with cabot considering that cabot seems to get his content in well enough.
Making sure to mention hed switch to Sky last minute.
When it became 50/50 between Ty and Sky he was able to seamlessly move his vote over to Sky without anyone seeing that he was helping out his scummate: