Mists of Pandaria Media Blowout [NDA lifted!]

I think it may have something to do with shorter and easier raids(so they dont spend 2 months wiping on bosses), not to mention we only got 2 new raids last year. Nothing huge like Ulduar or ICC.

Cata took forever to release, and once it came out you were able to hit 85 fairly quickly. The fact that it took so long to be released and once you did the content was devoured, just killed the enthuisasm for a ton of people.

The slow development, patches taking longer and longer to show up. The big time killer profession they added was abyssmal as well.
 
I want to be excited but cata killed my 25 man guild and now everyone is gone. It also killed my server so really only 3 guilds are progressing in 10m. My guild literally has no one left. I can go days, even weeks without seeing anyone log in. The server forums still have threads with a last post date of December on the first page.

I spend my days soloing old dungeons and collecting mounts/pets with the occasional random bg. Don't want to spend the $$$ to transfer all my toons to a new server either. But it's rather depressing when you log in and there are only 5 people in Org and trade chat doesn't move for hours.


I would just splash the cash, I did yesterday and I was blown away. I went from seeing trade chat not change for an hour to not being able to keep up with chat because there was so many raids being called. Worth the money to get some human interaction and chance to raid old stuff :)
 
I'm not sure i understand the new LFR loot system.

Does that mean that if a boss have a mail agility belt in his loot table, then my hunter is guaranteed to get it?
 
Yes, if you win the roll. At least thats how I read it.

But it says that people "roll individually". What does that mean? That's the confusing part. Everyone rolls, and the one with the higher roll gets his class item?
 
All 25 people roll.

The top 5(? not sure how many pieces of loot get dished out per boss in LFR) rolls get a piece of loot, if the boss has loot for their class. If not, they get gold. The other 20 people get nothing.

That's how I understood, anyway.
 
I think it may have something to do with shorter and easier raids(so they dont spend 2 months wiping on bosses), not to mention we only got 2 new raids last year. Nothing huge like Ulduar or ICC.

Just from my personal experience, it has less to do with the content being put out, and more to do with the fact that after 6 years, WoW is still fundamentally the same game it was at the beginning. And while it is still an excellent game, how long can one keep playing a single game before it wears thin, regardless of the refinements made to it?
 
Hence, why I said that people will roll for loot a LOT more with this method.
Why wouldn't you?

What are you getting at? In the current system, people roll for everything they want. Under the the new system, the exact same will happen but instead they are sure to get it.
 
Just from my personal experience, it has less to do with the content being put out, and more to do with the fact that after 6 years, WoW is still fundamentally the same game it was at the beginning. And while it is still an excellent game, how long can one keep playing a single game before it wears thin, regardless of the refinements made to it?

I know, been playing since 2006 and the only reason i still play is because it gives me something else to do when i've already beaten the latest released game and the next one i want is still one month/a few months away.
 
I'm really more curious than ever now as to where the plot is going to go with Garrosh being overthrown/killed at the end of Mists. For known quantities, there's either more Burning Legion, or Queen Azshara/Naga. At the very least Azshara needs something else supporting her - I don't think she could carry a whole expansion by herself.

There's a bit of a lack of major female villains through WoW canon. There's Vanessa Vancleef at the low-levels now, there's Onyxia, there's Lady Vashj, there's possibly Sylvanas (Okay, not really a villain, but certainly at best an antihero). I think making Azshara a figurehead of an expansion would be an excellent move.

(Oh, I guess you could argue that there's Sinestra, too, but she's always been a bit behind the scenes even if she *is* the final boss of a raid)
 
Panda - Racial Treats

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There is no way Epicurean will stand without either a major revamp of cookery rules or a lot of introspection of other races' racials.
 
There is no way Epicurean will stand without either a major revamp of cookery rules or a lot of introspection of other races' racials.

Did they ever update all the other races racials after the Goblin and Worgen racials? I remember there being a lot of talk about theirs at the time also. Though I agree that racial is crazy op.
 
There is no way Epicurean will stand without either a major revamp of cookery rules or a lot of introspection of other races' racials.

Im not so sure about that. They might address the other racials, but if they do, itll be long long long after they get people buying the expansion, and paying out of their noses for race xfers first. Worgen racials right now for a lot of dps classes just BLOW AWAY many of the others for PvE. Its not even close. The only thing that comes close is a Draenei. This right here might be more of the same, justified by saying "Well their racial requires that they carry food at all times for a well fed, or the racial is technically null, as opposed to a passive 1% crit or hit thats always on."
 
All 25 people roll.

The top 5(? not sure how many pieces of loot get dished out per boss in LFR) rolls get a piece of loot, if the boss has loot for their class. If not, they get gold. The other 20 people get nothing.

That's how I understood, anyway.

Pretty much. Not sure yet how they decide who wins and loses, but if you win, you choose the piece of loot you want. So if 5 Druids win, and there's a Druid piece, 5 Druids get the piece. You aren't rolling for a specific item anymore
 
Is anyone else in love with the idea of farmville in WoW?


I'm starting to think that this will be the first expansion where I log into to do other things besides raid/pve/level..


Ima be plantin mah flowers and battlin mah pets! >:D


Oh, and the lore presentations sound really cool too. Collect them while out leveling, when you ding and return to capital to train/sell... stop in and check out some lore presentations! :D
 
In my case I'm complaining because I don't want to play in content designed for children (like KFP). Regardless of how many pictures are dredged up, when the racial abilities have them eating a lot and bouncing and the colorful artwork instantly reminds some people (like myself) of that particular kids film I can firmly say, no thanks!

Gnomes.
 
Siege of Orgrimmar!

It's things like this that make me really wish I had the time to do raids or the high level group content found in WoW when I played. Looking at the few videos I can find of such content just isn't the same. I'd love to be able to experience this and everything else. Even when I got to 80 I could only do so by soloing and while the WoTLK instance system made things even more fun there were still things I could never take part of do to time and connections. If this situation could be solved I think I'd sign back up in a heart beat to see more of the ongoing story in detail.
 
Glad to see people exited about the expansion.

Question: Is is common when expansions like these come out that people burn through it in less than a day?
 
Siege of Orgrimmar!

It's things like this that make me really wish I had the time to do raids or the high level group content found in WoW when I played. Looking at the few videos I can find of such content just isn't the same. I'd love to be able to experience this and everything else. Even when I got to 80 I could only do so by soloing and while the WoTLK instance system made things even more fun there were still things I could never take part of do to time and connections. If this situation could be solved I think I'd sign back up in a heart beat to see more of the ongoing story in detail.

With the Raid Finder that they released a few months ago, you can do half of the latest raid content(in an easier mode though) in less than a hour and do the other half later during the week, again in less than a hour. They separated it in 2 "instances" for the Raid Finder. Everyone can easily kill Deathwing without needing a schedule or a hardcore guild. It's that quick and easy and will continue for the next raids.
 
Did they ever update all the other races racials after the Goblin and Worgen racials? I remember there being a lot of talk about theirs at the time also. Though I agree that racial is crazy op.

Well they did change the human racial to act like a pvp trinket, and they nerfed the warlock racial one pretty good, so there have been some changes.
 
Actually really interested in this, will definitely be coming back for the expac as I always do, just remains to see how long I actually last.
 
A little off topic here, but anyone know a link with the story line of WoW? Trying to read about the history and some of the lore here, because I'm confused as to why Thrall isn't in power anymore. Is there a timeline or something? I've tried searching but the content is either old or not what I'm looking for.

Thrall left his seat of power and left it to Garrosh a little while before the Cataclysm (aka Deathwing bursting out of the ground) because the elements needed his help. Basically, he left to stop Deathwing from turning Azeroth into another Outland. This whole story is covered in the books WoW: The Shattering and WoW: Thrall: Twilight of the Aspects .
 
Looks great. I honestly think that if Blizzard lowered the price to $10 a month in the US, they'd do wonders for their subscriber base. It's not that $15 is really all that different than $10, but a $9.99 price really is the magic price point and would probably entice me to re-sub for a bit prior to the expansion.
 
I hope Challenge Modes spread to Raids as well in the future.

Yeah, that would be cool.

It sounds like challenge mode is only for how fast a dungeon can be done. I've always thought it would be cool if challenge mode offered unique challenges to face. Like no class buffs/food buffs allowed. Can't use potions/healthstones etc. Everyone's health is halved, that sort of thing.
 
Yeah, that would be cool.

It sounds like challenge mode is only for how fast a dungeon can be done. I've always thought it would be cool if challenge mode offered unique challenges to face. Like no class buffs/food buffs allowed. Can't use potions/healthstones etc. Everyone's health is halved, that sort of thing.

Isn't Challenge mode done with a set of balanced gear for the right lvl of the instance? Like doing good old Heroic Grim Batol with an average item lvl of 333 instead of 397? That will make stuff much harder than not allowing potions or food buffs.
 
Glad to see people exited about the expansion.

Question: Is is common when expansions like these come out that people burn through it in less than a day?

The seriously endgame oriented people absolutely will. Especially the ones who get into the beta and have already seen and done the content several times by release. They just want to speed through it on live, and they have the advantage of knowing where everything is and how to do it.
 
Too many posts about rolling to quote, but the jist of it is:
Everyone has their own roll that says either A) you get loot or B) you don't get loot. Say 1-50 = no 51-100 = yes.
THEN if you won, and the boss has an item you can get on their loot table, you'll get one of them.
Your loot has 0 to do with anyone else's loot. In theory, the entire raid could get lucky and get a piece of loot.
 
Yeah, that would be cool.

It sounds like challenge mode is only for how fast a dungeon can be done. I've always thought it would be cool if challenge mode offered unique challenges to face. Like no class buffs/food buffs allowed. Can't use potions/healthstones etc. Everyone's health is halved, that sort of thing.

I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere in today's articles, but at least back at Blizzcon, they were talking about how doing more challenges after you'd achieved gold would start lowering your stats slightly every time you ran it again.
 

LOL. BTW I am not sure if linking to the WoW EU forums is legitimate or not under the rules so I am going to embed this as a quote, but Harowha summarizes what I was trying to say quite nicely.

Source: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2868758877

Sure, pandaren weren't originally based on Kung fu Panda.

They were originally based on a cute drawing that Sam Didier made for his infant daughter. They were then turned into an april fools joke because everyone at Blizzard thought they were so funny. Then because a bizarro subset of the community latched onto them and wouldn't shut up about them, they became lore.

But prior to the Kung fu Panda movie, the only thing we had to go on about pandaren was Chen and the pandaren brewmaster in WC3. Their notable traits then were a brewery culture and an elemental emphasis.

Then came the movie, where Jack Black voices a fat panda whose only skill is cooking, is such a glutton that he can only be trained through food, and is so fat that he's constantly bouncing off of things and things are bouncing off of him.

Let's look at some of the pandaren racials now, shall we?

Epicurean
Increases the stat benefits from food by 100%

Gourmand
Cooking skill increased by 15.

Bouncy
You take 50% less falling damage.

Gosh, where did those come from? Pandaren were never originally characterized as being food obsessed and bouncing fatties.

Pandaren might not originally been inspired by the movie, but it is plain as day that Blizzard has been influenced.

Now I am not trying to trash Blizzard or anything. WoW is my favorite game of all time, I'm just not happy to rush out and buy a KFP expac and that's just how I see it.
 
I have played shitloads of Wow. I played it with many of my friends, played it with my son and I have played it with my wife.

But all I see is furries.
 
Glad to see people exited about the expansion.

Question: Is is common when expansions like these come out that people burn through it in less than a day?

You could definitely burn through leveling content in a day if you were super hardcore about it. I hit 85 within 2 days after Cataclysm's release, and while not server first, just over the 200th person on the server to do so. Obviously for the vast majority of people it will take longer, but even at a more casual but dedicated pace (for a release window) it wouldn't take someone more than a 2-3 weeks to hit level cap. Also note that I hadn't been in the beta as was relatively unfamiliar with the content. As mentioned above, people serious about leveling who had a chance to play in the beta would definitely be quicker not only being familiar with the content, but able to plan an ideal route.

After hitting cap, there are still professions to worry about, gear to acquire, dungeons/raids to do, reputations to grind, etc. Getting through all the extra stuff after cap will take at least a month or two, even if you played 4+ hours a day. Not to mention doing at least part, if not all the content more than once for a couple of alts in that same window.

Though I'll still probably be preoccupied with Diablo 3, the launch Mists content will definitely last a few months, even if I don't stick around between patches. I wouldn't mind staying longer if our NeoGAF guild ramps up again and we can actually field a raid team.
 
Too many posts about rolling to quote, but the jist of it is:
Everyone has their own roll that says either A) you get loot or B) you don't get loot. Say 1-50 = no 51-100 = yes.
THEN if you won, and the boss has an item you can get on their loot table, you'll get one of them.
Your loot has 0 to do with anyone else's loot. In theory, the entire raid could get lucky and get a piece of loot.

I think you're right, except for the last sentence. Only the top 4 or 5 rollers (or 2 in 10m) would get loot.
 
I don't understand the fuss over the racials. They seem downright average, except for Epicurean which seems strong, yeah.
 
Those racials are downright broken.

I think it's interesting how fixated people are on the Pandaren racials. They're not new news. It's the same stuff since Blizzcon, and people complained how broken they were then.

The Epicurean one is the major offender and seriously can't go live like that unless everyone else gets a power boost of that magnitude.
 
Glad to see people exited about the expansion.

Question: Is is common when expansions like these come out that people burn through it in less than a day?

Even if you don't burn through it in less than a day, there is a huge advantage in being at or near that bleeding edge in the quality of people you find for 5-man events like whatever the new Ring of Blood series may be and dungeons. I was 75-76 by day 2 of Wrath and let me tell you running 5-mans with random people who had Sunwell experience made things go so sexy smooth.
 
I think it's interesting how fixated people are on the Pandaren racials. They're not new news. It's the same stuff since Blizzcon, and people complained how broken they were then.

The Epicurean one is the major offender and seriously can't go live like that unless everyone else gets a power boost of that magnitude.

I simply haven't been keeping track of this expansion. First time I've heard of those racials. The 3 second sleep seems like it could be pretty broken too.
 
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