How is it more broken than the tauren aoe stun and the blood elf aoe silence?
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How is it more broken than the tauren aoe stun and the blood elf aoe silence?
I figured because it's a sleep and won't have diminishing returns with stuns. Could be crazy good for a rogue (that is, if pandas can be rogues).
Fine Ham Abounds
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The only reason I'm playing this again is because I was bored and friends can get me free Cata and a level 80. The game is no doubt still ridiculously profitable, I can only assume they are desperate to prevent server merges, since that has come to be the MMO equivalent of admitting the ship is sinking, with investors and bloggers being the first rats jumping off.
This looks mildly interesting I guess. Making female pandas just dwarf girls with a different head is pretty much par for the course at this point.
Blizzard's likely to get my money from Diablo 3 anyway this year, but I'd be hard pressed at this point to skip Guild Wars 2 for this.
This looks mildly interesting I guess. Making female pandas just dwarf girls with a different head is pretty much par for the course at this point.
Blizzard's likely to get my money from Diablo 3 anyway this year, but I'd be hard pressed at this point to skip Guild Wars 2 for this.
Negative, reread all of the quotes. This is Raid finder only, so it's 25 man inherantly, and the ENTIRE REASON they're doing it is so that you're not rolling against other people - you are only determining your own win or loss on the right to loot a boss.
This is actually exactly how the lower difficulty raiding in star wars works too (Each player has their own 'roll' to see if they win a piece of loot).
Y'know... I've seen people saying that on here and I don't get it. Similar body types now mean they're the same model?
Not sure how else they're supposed to model a reasonably attractive 'larger' female body type, they look to have smaller boobs than dwarves by a fair bit, other than that yeah of course big hips and fatter arms and legs and stuff. The model itself is vastly superior though.
Gentleman Jack
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Even if it doesn't share diminishing returns with other disorients like Blind (unlikely) it only lasts 3 seconds at max duration and only hits one target. That is defintely worse than stomp (which stuns multiple targets) and arcane torrent (also AoE and grants a small amount of mana/energy/focus/rage/runic power). I doubt it'll enter a rogue's stunlock rotation if Gouge survives the expansion's class skill cut.
I honestly don't understand the whole "LAWL Blizzard copied Kung Fu Panda LAAAAWWLLL". As it is mentioned every time someone brings it up, Blizzard had already developed the Pandaren years before Kung Fu Panda, not only that but fucking pandas that practice martial arts are old as fuck. Panda Khan from TMNT came out first in 1985
It really makes me feel old as fuck, when I see this kind of rhetoric
One, because in my life I have seen countless iterations of Pandas, that practice martial arts and Two, because I cannot believe the argument of a serious adult for not playing and/or dismissing a game (that most of the time they are not even playing) Is "herp a derp that looks like Kung Fu Pandaaaaa it's for kidddddzzzz herrrr". Protip you most likely play and enjoy video games that thousands of kids also do.
I loved that action figure!!!
It really makes me feel old as fuck, when I see this kind of rhetoric
28 y/o.
Panda Khan may have started as an off spin or colaboration with Usagi Yojojimbo, cant recall at the moment but it was quickly tied to TMNT
Treemonkeys
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Humanoid cows have been in the game since release but humanoid pandas is crossing the line! People are so silly. I'm really looking forward to this expansion.
From Wrath of the Lich King to Kung Fu Panda.
Oh blizzard...
Wrath of Dr. Claw, more like. There's never been anything about Warcraft's tone and style that could be taken seriously.
What could they honestly do? They killed the world when they added flying mounts and LFD.
I would still appreciate the game without those things, but I don't think the vast majority of their customers would.
Fine Ham Abounds
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My impression is they are the same skeleton and body model with a different head. Maybe the animations will be unique, the standing position certainly looks a bit different.
They reuse several body models with different heads in WoW. I haven't played in almost a year, so it's tough to recall the specifics, but I'm sure you've noticed.
I will say you'll get no argument about it being an attractive "larger" female body type, people calling female dwarves ugly get an instant /ignore from me
LFD is the only thing that got me to play the game again 2 years ago. WotLK was a lot more fun for me coming into it almost a year (6 months? I dunno) after release. I'm sure I missed all the challenge and epicness, but BC was the one that ruined the game for me, so as someone who didn't care anymore I'd have to say LFD was the most successful thing they ever added.
I can totally appreciate the reasoning of everyone who hates it, but it actually made doing overworld quests for hours not feel like a chore to me, which actually made me appreciate the world more.
CarbonatedFalcon
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Well they said World PvP nodes would increase the weekly Conquest Points cap for the controlling faction which is pretty interesting, but I don't think quite enough of a motivator. I think it'd be better if they tied it in with PvE, having it raise the Valor Point cap as well at the very least. Ideally we could get something like Halaa. I think there are opportunities there if you spread the Halaa experience across multiple zones.
I loved that action figure!!!
Holy crap. Talk about timewarp. How could I ever forget this guy?
Oni Link 666
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The siege of Orgrimmar is not a raid and there's nothing recycled about Dragon Soul.
I'm kinda sad they aren't doing a item squish yet, the game really needs it.
Would love them to squish it down as low as possible, maybe even back to 10k being a lot of health. The numbers have just gotten so crazy that its lost all sense of strength to me, I felt more powerful in TBC then I did in Cata.
Would love them to squish it down as low as possible, maybe even back to 10k being a lot of health. The numbers have just gotten so crazy that its lost all sense of strength to me, I felt more powerful in TBC then I did in Cata.
Not even the whole Dragonblight zone & temple, Eye of Eternity, ICC ship and Maelstrom?
I want unique raids, but i wont say no to a raid happening in Orgrimmar if it make sense though.
Gentleman Jack
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I can name a few restaurants (including one nationwide chain) that evoke panda imagery in their names and branding. The food <-> pandas link predates Kung Fu Panda by a lot.
MoonLightWave
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this.
Oni Link 666
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I mean that Dragon Soul is not an old raid remade into a new one like Zul'Aman or something. It makes sense for the DS raid to take place in those places, so I can't hold that against them. Even then, those are not the same assets used in the real game world. Even the Eye of Eternity is new.
FieryBalrog
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The Pandaren really weren't that niche as people are making them out to be, Chen Stormstout was a major playable hero in the Frozen Throne orc campaign, and the Brewmaster was in the online multiplayer. DotA has 2-3 different panda heroes all based on WC3 models.
That's more than can be said for freaking Worgen.
That's more than can be said for freaking Worgen.
I, did reread all of them?
Like, there's no way they'll chance 25 people all rolling 95+ or whatever and all winning an item off of one kill.
So yes, there's no more ninjaing and competition over a specific item. Instead, there'll likely just be a loot roll UI pop up upon a boss' death absent any actual specific loot. You roll against other players, and the top 4-5 rollers will get 'win status'. The loot table will be checked, and a random useful item will be given to each winner. If one doesn't exist for that toon, they'll receive gold instead.
Oni Link 666
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Most people have no clue about how videogames are made. You'll often see WoW players say the game is made out of pixels when they should be saying polygons. I've even seen people claim that Draenei are just recolored Tauren.
Well they got hooves, a tail and 2 horns, of course they are recolored taurens.
Except for the entire Raid Zone and all of the Boss models.
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Oni Link 666
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Right, dude. They're all just recolored Tauren and dwarf girls with panda heads.
Fine Ham Abounds
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I was certainly attempting a dig at Blizzard with my female panda comment, and I get your point, but noticing that something new was obviously taken from an existing resource you've been looking at for years and modified rather than reinvent the wheel is quite a bit different than saying WoW is made out of pixels.
Vanilla is complete ass now.
That exists.
Gentleman Jack
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It's either ignorant or disingenuous to make these kinds of comparisons because you're not including all the assets that comprise the creation of a new race in a game of this scope. There's voice work, animations, fitting armor models and in the case of these particular races, completely different starting zone environments and capital cities.
WoW's equipment and mount models also restrict all races to bipedal humanoids that all have to fit into the same doorways; Recognizing patterns and similarities is an inescapable trait of being human. I get that the suspicion comes from somewhere. That two races have hooves doesn't mean they started with Tauren.max, moved vertices and HSV sliders around then called it a day.
I was certainly attempting a dig at Blizzard with my female panda comment, and I get your point, but noticing that something new was obviously taken from an existing resource you've been looking at for years and modified rather than reinvent the wheel is quite a bit different than saying WoW is made out of pixels.
obviously taken from?
Those look completely different, because they are. Yeah, they both represent a 'heavy' female, so the BODY TYPE is similar, but the models are clearly different. Your argument genuinely IS that bad. If you actually believe that is the same model with a different head you're blind. Look at the hands, the legs, the shoulders (especially the width and shape of them), everything. The panda model is significantly higher poly.
Fine Ham Abounds
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It is an ignorant statement, I'm not privy to their design process. I've done design for 12 years, I don't know anyone with a budget and a schedule who doesn't reuse any resources possible, so it's coming from an educated assumption and professional experience. It's certainly not because of the hooves, as the bottom of the legs are the most comparatively different parts of the model other than the size of the arms and the head. The entire core, the shape of the arms, the thighs with backturned knees, look to me exactly like they just tweaked some sliders and vertices.
Of course I could be wrong, and certainly I got myself into this with a little trolling, but it kinda just seems like I'm trying to argue that something is obvious to me and others are countering with things that should be obvious to just about anyone as opposed to explaining or showing me why I'm mistaken.
Well, actually:
I guess I'm not seeing huge differences aside from the arms and head, so let's just say your insult is valid. The stance is different, maybe the gut is forward also? Maybe my brain can't grasp it because we're looking at models with textures on them and not the wireframes. Thanks for trying.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4217173624#15
So it sounds like they're not entirely sure whether it will be X players or everyone has a chance yet. Probably why we were disagreeing!
notworksafe
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Wow those pandas look hilarious. No way I'd ever play one.
Also the Siege of Org sounds crazy! I'm one of the few who liked the idea of Garrosh as warchief and will be bummed to see him go. Will Thrall be returning to his old job or something crazy like Sylvanas or Baine taking over?
Also the Siege of Org sounds crazy! I'm one of the few who liked the idea of Garrosh as warchief and will be bummed to see him go. Will Thrall be returning to his old job or something crazy like Sylvanas or Baine taking over?
Salz01
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Is it blizzard hosted? If so I'll eat my words and will sign up for it. If its a crack, I'll pass.
Nah, it's shitty unofficial servers.
FieryBalrog
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I guess I'm not seeing huge differences aside from the arms and head, so let's just say your insult is valid. The stance is different, maybe the gut is forward also? Maybe my brain can't grasp it because we're looking at models with textures on them and not the wireframes. Thanks for trying.
Vague similarity in overall shape does not mean they're using the same model. Which they clearly are not. The panda model is way higher poly and just a new model overall.
But but they're small and fat! Surely its the same model!
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