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Misunderstood Movies (stolen from reddit, 2001 Space Odyssee welcome)
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davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
i actually think 2010: The Year We Made Contact makes 2001 a lot more "understandable" without actually having to analyze the first movie by itself that much. They pretty much summarize the events in a way that makes sense.
2010 was more of a traditional "sci-fi" movie, and i enjoyed it. i sort of wish there was more in that "series"
napoleon dynamite, i pretty much got that myself from watching it multiple times, but never really placed it on "loneliness" in particular -- just that everyone has these random issues that they have and we see them on display as a "day in the life of" these characters, and it comes to a head when they all become something different nearer to the end of the movie. great film.
2010 was more of a traditional "sci-fi" movie, and i enjoyed it. i sort of wish there was more in that "series"
napoleon dynamite, i pretty much got that myself from watching it multiple times, but never really placed it on "loneliness" in particular -- just that everyone has these random issues that they have and we see them on display as a "day in the life of" these characters, and it comes to a head when they all become something different nearer to the end of the movie. great film.
Sucker Punch feels way too much like it's trying to have it's cake and eat it too.
Are you insinuating there is subtlety in Robocop? Because there is none at all and it's awesome for it. The blatant satirical nature of Robocop makes it hard to believe that anyone could take Starship Troopers at face value.
Ionian
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Pretty much this. While it might be interesting to think its a study on loneliness I think it's really over thinking the film.
Mister Wilhelm
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I'd say it might be overthinking, but it's not really wrong.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
That just makes me like them more.
what's it satirising?
2001. It's like the opposite or something. Instead of using an unexplainable black object to advance humanity, it makes them dumb dumbs.
For those asking about Sucker Punch interpretation
Why you are wrong about sucker punch part 1
WHy you are wrong about sucker punch part 2
Moviebob attempts to explain Sucker Punch.
I Have never watched the movie and cannot comment on the movie itself but he does a decent enough job explaining one of the interpretations that has been mentioned already in this thread.
Why you are wrong about sucker punch part 1
WHy you are wrong about sucker punch part 2
Moviebob attempts to explain Sucker Punch.
I Have never watched the movie and cannot comment on the movie itself but he does a decent enough job explaining one of the interpretations that has been mentioned already in this thread.
I H8 Memes
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Donnie Darko is the thematic counterweight to It's a Wonderful Life. Donnie gets to see just how much worse life would be for the people he knows if he didn't die.
crazyrabbits
Banned
I want to say Last Action Hero. When it came out, people slammed it for not being Arnold's usual fare, or a lame action film in general.
I love it for the fact that the jokes have gotten much better with time, and the fact that it's pretty much a film for the "TVTropes generation" - it actively sets out to subvert and screw with just about every expectation of the action genre. The kid sets the plot in motion by telling the hero where to go, the standard action movie plots are lampooned to hell and back, and the "real-world" scenes with Arnold are way funnier in hindsight.
I love it for the fact that the jokes have gotten much better with time, and the fact that it's pretty much a film for the "TVTropes generation" - it actively sets out to subvert and screw with just about every expectation of the action genre. The kid sets the plot in motion by telling the hero where to go, the standard action movie plots are lampooned to hell and back, and the "real-world" scenes with Arnold are way funnier in hindsight.
I'm stunned that people didn't realize it was intentionally over the top. I hadn't read the book and only watched it because my friend was so excited. I ended up laughing through the whole thing and it's one of my all time favorite movies. He hated it. The scene where the Mormons were wiped out killed me.
jediyoshi
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I want to live in your world where the internet exists without 4chan.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Its about the second coming of christ according to the director.
EDIT: I posted what this guy did... not sure how I missed it.
Well, he did walk on water near the end of the movie.
bigboss370
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whoa...that is awesome.
Romars202129
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Yeah, the interpretation is valid, it's just not intentional. The creators stepped over the line from understandable vengeance man to irredeamable psychopath without even realizing it[then again, his motivation never really made sense from the start]. It's part of the reasons some don't respect the series' storytelling.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
its definitely not wrong, but its definitely not the only interpretation of that movie. i think when they were constructing that movie they weren't necessarily thinking about making sure all of those things were as meticulous as the analyzing makes it seem they are.
usually a lot of those things are subconsciously done or done after the fact in editing. you have to be a genius director like a Kubrick or whatever to actually PLAN those things out from the beginning and say "this is my vision, this is what i had already planned out. this wasn't formulated on the editing floor, it was formulated in my head while i was writing/planning it"
the director of that movie went on to make Nacho Libre, so he is very good at making these cult-favorite movies with a lot of subtleties in them. he hasn't really made a whole lot of movies though.
User 100115
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Breaks it down way better than I could have.
how original
Chiaroscuro
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Man, I hated Signs and now I want to watch it again.
But the main problem with Shyamalan movies is that all this movies are based in a "surprise" plot twist near the end. It worked well in The Sixth Sense but after that the audience already expects it every time.
But the main problem with Shyamalan movies is that all this movies are based in a "surprise" plot twist near the end. It worked well in The Sixth Sense but after that the audience already expects it every time.
Cannibal Holocaust:
This is a classic exploitation film and often makes lists for the best horror. I agree that it is an outstanding film, but not strictly based on the realistic practical effects
and overall extremeness. Most people miss, however, that this film is a commentary on capitalism, consumerism and colonialism in a literal way. In the opening scenes, the narrator talks about the atrocious acts of gruesome cannibalism in the jungle, but what the viewer sees is extensive footage of New York city. The American filmmakers in this film are the real villains: they rape women, torture people and burn villages, all while seeming very entitled and detached. What this movie really suggests is that consumerism creates a culture of people who overtake others' without remorse, have no respect for other cultures (views them as "savage"), and destroy the environment... so it becomes clear that
, they themselves, the "consumers", are the true cannibals.
This is a classic exploitation film and often makes lists for the best horror. I agree that it is an outstanding film, but not strictly based on the realistic practical effects
impalement scene
although this group of people are eaten by members of an Amazonian tribe
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Yeah, these are the videos that broke it down for me as well.
It's a satirical take on the sci-fi genre, the audience who takes it so seriously, and James Cameron. Unfortunately, my hand is broken, so I can't type the multiple paragraphs it would take to go through it all. I'll just point out how the film ends with
a blue alien sticking its tongue out
Like I said, I'm pretending here. It makes the film enjoyable and helps wash away the crushing disappointment of the first viewing. I'm not saying it's true, I just want it to be.
paradise_circus
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I think many people don't get First Blood: Rambo nowadays, because the sequels were just about how some muscular veteran is slaughtering many bad guys with big weapons.
Once upon a time in the west shows us that the civilization needs water to prosper.
Once upon a time in the west shows us that the civilization needs water to prosper.
I am not sure there is anything to get. If you watch first blood you get what it is about because it is what happens, you can't not get it.
However when you think of Rambo due to the sequels you will probably think of that kind of character.
I don't know what's so hard to get about Napoleon Dynamite, the things pointed out in that post seem pretty obvious. I mean, it's not like it's the first comedy about outcasts, dorks or whatever you want to call them. They way the movie handles it is precisely what makes it great. Can someone watch that movie and not realise it's about unpopular quirky people with terrible social skills and how they're isolated and oblivious?
FeedMeAStrayCat
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American Psycho. I definitely know of a few people who view it as a straight up horror film. It's not very good in that way haha I've heard someone claim it's "the worst horror movie ever made"
Not that AP is especially deep or confusing. It's not. But it seems like the dark comedy aspects get overlooked by some, as well as the look at a materialistic 80's society.
Not that AP is especially deep or confusing. It's not. But it seems like the dark comedy aspects get overlooked by some, as well as the look at a materialistic 80's society.
Correct me if I'm wrong, it's been a while since I've seen CH, but isn't this somewhat, maybe a bit implicitly, mentioned at the end of the movie by narration?
Lambda Pie
Banned
spoilers ahead:
in the early minutes, Jim Halsey, the main characters, falls asleep on the wheel and wakes up just in time to avoid crashing against a truck. moments later, he picks-up the Hitcher and sets the events of the movie in motion.
now, i always saw it as Jim dying in the car crash and the Hitcher being a manifestation of the Grim Reaper, Death, toying with Jim's soul. it's the reason why the Hitcher is constantly teasing Jim to hurt him and stop him, cause he knows he can't be stopped. when Jim "kills" the Hitcher at the end, the Hitcher already destroyed everyone Jim came in contact with since meeting him and the movie ends with Jim alone, in the middle of nowhere with no one in sight.
in the early minutes, Jim Halsey, the main characters, falls asleep on the wheel and wakes up just in time to avoid crashing against a truck. moments later, he picks-up the Hitcher and sets the events of the movie in motion.
now, i always saw it as Jim dying in the car crash and the Hitcher being a manifestation of the Grim Reaper, Death, toying with Jim's soul. it's the reason why the Hitcher is constantly teasing Jim to hurt him and stop him, cause he knows he can't be stopped. when Jim "kills" the Hitcher at the end, the Hitcher already destroyed everyone Jim came in contact with since meeting him and the movie ends with Jim alone, in the middle of nowhere with no one in sight.
FeedMeAStrayCat
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I fully agree. Yet I know several people who didn't pick up on those things.
Horror themes plus comedy seem to confuse people. Cabin in the Woods also comes to mind.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
Odyssee?
Agree with most of it except the message regarding feminism. I don't think one was intentional beyond lampooning the sex action hero genre. Though I guess that would be up to how one would interpret the cut ending. Considering it was an 11th hour cut due to studio interference and explicitly used sex as a form of empowerment, I definitely would like to see the video to incorporate that.
ThatCrazyGuy
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I actually feel the opposite about his early movies, I still rewatch 6th Sense, Unbreakable, Signs and the Village. I honestly enjoy those movies and the atmosphere they create,
Something happened after that though, I stopped enjoying his output.
looking at the entire scope of the movie, from the extended cut, to the director's originally intended ending (the one no one has seen), etc, I think those video's are for the most part right on the money.
rudieboy77
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Philip K. Dick was a fairly ardent right winger, he probably believed in the nationalistic themes of that movie.
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