detectiveconan1
Member
Yeah 4 in a row, and we have outscored opposing teams 25-5.
Hopefully we can complete the sweep tomorrow, and then give the Mets some payback. We won't see deGrom or Harvey either!
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MLB 2015 Regular Season |OT| Pickin' Up the Pace of Play
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Yeah 4 in a row, and we have outscored opposing teams 25-5.
Hopefully we can complete the sweep tomorrow, and then give the Mets some payback. We won't see deGrom or Harvey either!
That's... true, actually. Yes.
Frozenprince
Banned
110 pitches. Just like I said.
Putting additional strain on the arm is not, nor will it ever, be a good thing.
Putting additional strain on the arm is not, nor will it ever, be a good thing.
DoktorEvil
Banned
Zack Wheeler watches in dismay.
Frozenprince
Banned
Harvey must be pissed. Id Be too.
He doesn't get to finish a game when he's dealing and 100% healthy, yet when he's struggled a bit with his breaking stuff all day and ALREADY HURT, he plays until 8.2 innings.
Unreal.
Confrontation
Member
I just put on the Marlins game in the end there and literally just caught a replay of Adeiny of all people crushing one out. I was like 'yup, Marlins are on fire'.
Why so paranoid? Pitchers have the same chance of getting hurt on pitch #1 or pitch #110.
Frozenprince
Banned
First off that's not true.
Second, I'm paranoid because blatant mis-management by a coaching staff should not be applauded or jsut brushed off. Does Harvey have a lower chance of hurting his arm because he already had TJS? Statistically yes. Does leaving a pitcher who already has a foot injury to stay on the mound for an entire game make sense when you're winning by five runs? No. Not in any way shape or form.
This isn't an isolated issue. This is a culmination of the fact that Terry cannot manage a pitching staff to save his life, and it's cost us some very very good pitchers because of it.
Link
The Autumn Wind
Pitch counts exist for a reason. Also, you're familiar with this team's injury history, yes?
Frozenprince
Banned
Pitchers drop like flies here because of mis-management.
Wheeler threw 120 pitches in a game last year, he broke 100 five times, he threw more than any other pitcher under-25 in all of baseball. Terry should have taken his minor league pitch counts and innings into account, but he didn't. And now he's done until June next year at best.
This isn't 1980 anymore, pitchers throw harder, put more strain on their elbows, and have PED's in their systems which weakens the tendons (everybody juices). BP's exist to save your starters from injury and fatigue.
Confrontation
Member
The Verlanders and Shieldsssss are pretty rare nowadays indeed.
Frozenprince
Banned
You really don't see a problem with leaving a guy that's already injured, already hurt his arm, already has an innings limit, out there in a meaningless game in April that we already won?
Verlander is a TEXTBOOK example of how mis-management of a pitcher can destroy him.
Because pitchers are getting babied. Dude threw 100 pitches get him out cause his elbow will explode on pitch 101.
Little Green Yoda
Member
A tired pitcher is more susceptible to poorer mechanics which leads to increased odds of injury. Is the common belief these days, I believe.
DoktorEvil
Banned
It's less about the pitch count for me and more about how pulling a move like that is a lack of faith in Harvey.
Terry left him in, so let him finish the game. Dont second guess the decision after the fact.
Grover Cleveland
Member
Sox-O's playing with full-scale protests going on right outside of Camden Yards, wild scene.
Frozenprince
Banned
It has 0 to do with pitchers being "babied". It's a proven fact that strain on the elbow and joints increases after every pitch. Why exacerbate that for a meaningless game in September?
Verlander pitched himself into being nothing but a #5 starter/BP long man. Tim Lincecum destroyed his arm, Matt Cain did, Mad Bum is on the path there.
It's a big deal because it's indicative of a wider issue with our manager.
bonesmccoy
Banned
Norris is one svelte guy
<3
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Confrontation
Member
I think Masterson just threw the nastiest slider of the season. Jesus.
yankeehater
Member
Ryan Howard is good people.
Mr. Enigma
Member
Calling it right now: Mets are winning the NL East.
Link
The Autumn Wind
Still not getting my hopes up til at least the All-Star Break.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Wainwright got hurt batting?
BigJonsson
Member
I can't stand the Rays, ugh
NL DH forever.
brianjones
Member
andre either back on the market!
he looks like he's put on some weight.. hoping to regain that power lol
he looks like he's put on some weight.. hoping to regain that power lol
detectiveconan1
Member
Yeah, they are the worst team in the majors.
Neither can people in Tampa
DoktorEvil
Banned
I hear Montreal is looking for a baseball franchise.
What's one less FloridaMan team?
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Fuck the Jays.
Tim Beckham > Buster Posey suckers!
Tim Beckham > Buster Posey suckers!
go back to being a mets fan bro
I'm much happier with this number if true.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Still a Mets fan!
Best 2 Rays hitters this year are both rookies. A 25 year old rookie and a 26 year old rookie but they still count.
Still think the Nats are the better team overall.
timetokill
Banned
Grandal just got robbed sliding into home. He was safe.
DoktorEvil
Banned
brianjones
Member
mccarthy is feast and famine
Mr. Enigma
Member
Why is Jim Johnson out here AGAIN.
Little Green Yoda
Member
Hoping it's nothing serious. Not even sure who would be the first guy up if he hits the DL. Marco Gonzales is hurt and Jaime Garcia isn't ready yet.