Wow, they're getting out while the getting's good with Oliver Perez 2.0. This is the beginning of the second wave of Giants pitchers starting to come up IMHO.Jon said:Giants just traded Jonathan Sanchez to the Royals for Melky Cabrera.
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WHICH IS WHY YOU DON'T FUCKING TRADE HIM NOW.darkside31337 said:That is an amazing trade for the Giants. Really well done.
And lol at David Wright being worth a Trout. Bourjos would be a great piece to get, but Wright isn't even worth that much.
The Frankman said:WHICH IS WHY YOU DON'T FUCKING TRADE HIM NOW.
Goddamn it, it's like people think he's completely done. You guys underestimate how much Citi Field was in his head, and the adjustments he made post-rib injury to his stance/approach.
Agreed. Trout was the number one prospect last year. No way we get him for Wright. Bourjos with some other prospects is way more believable.darkside31337 said:David Wright won't be worth Trout, ever. Even if he starts playing well. You don't trade a prospect like that for 1 year of any player, especially if that player is David Wright.
depends if you have a legit chance to win the world series, if you have a chance to resign pujols and if you have a decent replacement in center.The Frankman said:Actually I'm more talking about trading Wright than getting Mike Trout.
... so if you could get 1 year of prime Pujols, you wouldn't trade a Trout?
You are simply the most delusional fan on this forum.The Frankman said:WHICH IS WHY YOU DON'T FUCKING TRADE HIM NOW.
Goddamn it, it's like people think he's completely done. You guys underestimate how much Citi Field was in his head, and the adjustments he made post-rib injury to his stance/approach.
That's clutch world series winner Melky to you!Corran Horn said:I wanted to trade Sanchez got awhile now....but for Melky? Uhhhhhhhh
Corran Horn said:I wanted to trade Sanchez got awhile now....but for Melky? Uhhhhhhhh
Do you always post while looking into a mirror?Sanjuro Tsubaki said:You are simply the most delusional fan on this forum.
I don't believe that ballparks can ruin a professional baseball players psyche, so no.The Frankman said:Do you always post while looking into a mirror?
Jason Bay, Larry Jones, David Wright, and quite a few players would like to have a word with you.Sanjuro Tsubaki said:I don't believe that ballparks can ruin a professional baseball players psyche, so no.
Baseball America ranked him as the Giants 25th best prospect.AnEternalEnigma said:Is the minor league pitcher the Giants sent over any good?
They are called road games. Jason Bay clearly benefited the most from Fenway park, but he wasn't the shell of a player he is now prior. I would even go as far as saying it's a Mest problem.The Frankman said:Jason Bay, Larry Jones, David Wright, and quite a few players would like to have a word with you.
It's been well documented Wright actually changed his approach/stance and tried to become more of a pull hitter, which is not his usually hitting style. Jones commented many a time on how he couldn't believe the dimensions in Citi, and heard from player how it definitely "got in their head".
Jason Bay... yeah let's not talk about him. Gotta keep letting him believe it was just the park!
That's why I posted it as "let Bay believe it was the park". Bay has so much motion and hand movement in his swing his stance/stride is fucked up, nvm his declining bat speed and questionable plate discipline...Sanjuro Tsubaki said:They are called road games. Jason Bay clearly benefited the most from Fenway park, but he wasn't the shell of a player he is now prior. I would even go as far as saying it's a Mest problem.
I remember also reading that the reason road players were hitting homers easier when they went to Citi Field was because they only play there for a few games. Hence, they don't feel the need to make changes to their swings when visiting.The Frankman said:Jason Bay, Larry Jones, David Wright, and quite a few players would like to have a word with you.
It's been well documented Wright actually changed his approach/stance and tried to become more of a pull hitter, which is not his usually hitting style (LOL 415 TO RIGHT CENTER). Jones commented many a time on how he couldn't believe the dimensions in Citi, and heard from player how it definitely "got in their head".
Jason Bay... yeah let's not talk about him. Gotta keep letting him believe it was just the park!
Then I'll go back to Wright. I'm not going to believe that he has become a giant headcase that cowers when he has to play at home. Injury related decline possibly, but he just isn't that good.The Frankman said:That's why I posted it as "let Bay believe it was the park". Bay has so much motion and hand movement in his swing his stance/stride is fucked up, nvm his declining bat speed and questionable plate discipline...
The Wright I saw post-back injury was the closest I saw to the old Wright in a long time. Hit the ball the other way again, pulled it if he had to, focused on line drives. All I'm saying is assuming he stays on that track in addition to the ballpark being fairer to his natural power stroke should mark a return to Wright hitting .290-ish/20-25 HR/90 RBI. Is that really too much for him?Sanjuro Tsubaki said:Then I'll go back to Wright. I'm not going to believe that he has become a giant headcase that cowers when he has to play at home. Injury related decline possibly, but he just isn't that good.
Why'd you have to put it that way???Sanjuro Tsubaki said:You don't trade Wright because he isn't worth anything. There is nobody vastly superior coming out at the third base position. At this point there is no reason to abandon the contract.
only 46 million left on that contract...Rafa=FedKilla said:With Sanchez gone it's now Zito's time to shine.
Well, I wasn't here to argue the contractual issues. Primarily the ghosts and goblins Frank believes are in his head thanks to Citibank.CajoleJuice said:Why'd you have to put it that way???
Sure, let's ignore the testimonials of one of his best friends...Sanjuro Tsubaki said:Well, I wasn't here to argue the contractual issues. Primarily the ghosts and goblins Frank believes are in his head thanks to Citibank.
Compensation for the A's taking the Giants territorial rights will be unloading Zito's contract on Lew Wollf.Windu said:only 46 million left on that contract...
They can't even trade him because he has no value too!Dmncnby2k9 said:Werd, and we have no real good offensive talent ready to step in next year. The Mets need to give Fernando Martinez a chance. If not, trade his arse. The guy is still only 22 years old.
Fuck!! lolThe Frankman said:They can't even trade him because he has no value too!
I'm Carl Crawford's best friend. He told me he hated Fenway because he was too used to the urine stained carpet in Tampa.The Frankman said:Sure, let's ignore the testimonials of one of his best friends...
Bullshit. I'm sure he hated Fenway because he underestimated how many racists were in the stands.Sanjuro Tsubaki said:I'm Carl Crawford's best friend. He told me he hated Fenway because he was too used to the urine stained carpet in Tampa.
I was called a n***er at Shea. I clearly underestimated the amount of colorblind racists in the stands.The Frankman said:Bullshit. I'm sure he hated Fenway because he underestimated how many racists were in the stands.
The fan was probably from Boston.Sanjuro Tsubaki said:I was called a n***er at Shea. I clearly underestimated the amount of colorblind racists in the stands.
Joe Sheenan suggested F-Mart for Marmol! bahaha baseball writersThe Frankman said:They can't even trade him because he has no value too!
Nah, the group that assaulted me were wearing trashy Mets clothing.The Frankman said:The fan was probably from Boston.
F-Mart is going to be someone's pool boy in a few years.Windu said:to be fair, Fernando Martinez would make a good ball boy. Have you seen the giants ball "boys"? they need all the help they can get.
His scouting video was on YouTube earlier today, but it's since been taken down. I wanted to watch it, too. Apparently it's insane.So the Phillies are interested in Yoennis Cespedes. I know nothing about him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BfOpQnRE0qs#t=11sWindu said:to be fair, Fernando Martinez would make a good ball boy. Have you seen the giants ball "boys"? they need all the help they can get.