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MLB Off-Season 2011: Only a few more weeks until the radio talks about baseball again

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Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
# Pitchers B/T Ht Wt DOB
30 Scott Baker R-R 6'4" 215 Sep 19, 1981 shit
53 Nick Blackburn R-R 6'4" 240 Feb 24, 1982 shit
31 Alex Burnett R-R 6'0" 220 Jul 26, 1987 shit
55 Matt Capps R-R 6'2" 245 Sep 3, 1983 shit
58 Scott Diamond L-L 6'3" 215 Jul 30, 1986 shit
56 Terry Doyle R-R 6'4" 225 Nov 2, 1985 shit
52 Brian Duensing L-L 6'0" 205 Feb 22, 1983 shit
60 Jeff Gray R-R 6'3" 195 Nov 19, 1981 shit
76 Deolis Guerra R-R 6'5" 245 Apr 17, 1989 shit
72 Carlos Gutierrez R-R 6'3" 225 Sep 22, 1986 shit
62 Liam Hendriks R-R 6'1" 200 Feb 10, 1989 shit
47 Francisco Liriano L-L 6'2" 215 Oct 26, 1983 shit
44 Matt Maloney L-L 6'4" 210 Jan 16, 1984 shit
49 Jeff Manship R-R 6'2" 210 Jan 16, 1985 shit
21 Jason Marquis L-R 6'1" 210 Aug 21, 1978 super shit
17 Lester Oliveros R-R 6'0" 225 May 28, 1988 shit
48 Carl Pavano R-R 6'5" 250 Jan 8, 1976 lol
15 Glen Perkins L-L 6'0" 210 Mar 2, 1983 shit
64 Tyler Robertson L-L 6'5" 220 Dec 23, 1987 shit
51 Anthony Swarzak R-R 6'4" 210 Sep 10, 1985 shit
57 Kyle Waldrop R-R 6'5" 215 Oct 27, 1985 shit
Joel Zumaya R-R 6'3" 210 Nov 9, 1984
# Catchers B/T Ht Wt DOB
41 Drew Butera R-R 6'1" 195 Aug 9, 1983 shit
18 Ryan Doumit S-R 6'1" 215 Apr 3, 1981 shit
7 Joe Mauer L-R 6'5" 235 Apr 19, 1983 horrible shit
# Infielders B/T Ht Wt DOB
8 Jamey Carroll R-R 5'9" 170 Feb 18, 1974 shit
12 Alexi Casilla S-R 5'9" 185 Jul 20, 1984 shit
38 Luke Hughes R-R 5'11" 205 Aug 2, 1984 shit
33 Justin Morneau L-R 6'4" 235 May 15, 1981 shit
1 Tsuyoshi Nishioka S-R 6'1" 175 Jul 27, 1984 shit
27 Chris Parmelee L-L 6'1" 230 Feb 24, 1988 shit
24 Trevor Plouffe R-R 6'2" 200 Jun 15, 1986 shit
19 Danny Valencia R-R 6'2" 220 Sep 19, 1984 shit
# Outfielders B/T Ht Wt DOB
80 Oswaldo Arcia L-R 6'0" 210 May 9, 1991 shit
63 Joe Benson R-R 6'1" 205 Mar 5, 1988 shit
Darin Mastroianni R-R 5'11" 190 Aug 26, 1985 shit
11 Ben Revere L-R 5'9" 170 May 3, 1988 shit
2 Denard Span L-L 6'0" 210 Feb 27, 1984 shit
23 Rene Tosoni L-R 6'0" 195 Jul 2, 1986 shit
16 Josh Willingham R-R 6'2" 215 Feb 17, 1979 shit
 
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dvolovets

Member
Y2Kev said:
# Pitchers B/T Ht Wt DOB
30 Scott Baker R-R 6'4" 215 Sep 19, 1981 shit
53 Nick Blackburn R-R 6'4" 240 Feb 24, 1982 shit
31 Alex Burnett R-R 6'0" 220 Jul 26, 1987 shit
55 Matt Capps R-R 6'2" 245 Sep 3, 1983 shit
58 Scott Diamond L-L 6'3" 215 Jul 30, 1986 shit
56 Terry Doyle R-R 6'4" 225 Nov 2, 1985 shit
52 Brian Duensing L-L 6'0" 205 Feb 22, 1983 shit
60 Jeff Gray R-R 6'3" 195 Nov 19, 1981 shit
76 Deolis Guerra R-R 6'5" 245 Apr 17, 1989 shit
72 Carlos Gutierrez R-R 6'3" 225 Sep 22, 1986 shit
62 Liam Hendriks R-R 6'1" 200 Feb 10, 1989 shit
47 Francisco Liriano L-L 6'2" 215 Oct 26, 1983 shit
44 Matt Maloney L-L 6'4" 210 Jan 16, 1984 shit
49 Jeff Manship R-R 6'2" 210 Jan 16, 1985 shit
21 Jason Marquis L-R 6'1" 210 Aug 21, 1978 super shit
17 Lester Oliveros R-R 6'0" 225 May 28, 1988 shit
48 Carl Pavano R-R 6'5" 250 Jan 8, 1976 lol
15 Glen Perkins L-L 6'0" 210 Mar 2, 1983 shit
64 Tyler Robertson L-L 6'5" 220 Dec 23, 1987 shit
51 Anthony Swarzak R-R 6'4" 210 Sep 10, 1985 shit
57 Kyle Waldrop R-R 6'5" 215 Oct 27, 1985 shit
Joel Zumaya R-R 6'3" 210 Nov 9, 1984
# Catchers B/T Ht Wt DOB
41 Drew Butera R-R 6'1" 195 Aug 9, 1983 shit
18 Ryan Doumit S-R 6'1" 215 Apr 3, 1981 shit
7 Joe Mauer L-R 6'5" 235 Apr 19, 1983 horrible shit
# Infielders B/T Ht Wt DOB
8 Jamey Carroll R-R 5'9" 170 Feb 18, 1974 shit
12 Alexi Casilla S-R 5'9" 185 Jul 20, 1984 shit
38 Luke Hughes R-R 5'11" 205 Aug 2, 1984 shit
33 Justin Morneau L-R 6'4" 235 May 15, 1981 shit
1 Tsuyoshi Nishioka S-R 6'1" 175 Jul 27, 1984 shit
27 Chris Parmelee L-L 6'1" 230 Feb 24, 1988 shit
24 Trevor Plouffe R-R 6'2" 200 Jun 15, 1986 shit
19 Danny Valencia R-R 6'2" 220 Sep 19, 1984 shit
# Outfielders B/T Ht Wt DOB
80 Oswaldo Arcia L-R 6'0" 210 May 9, 1991 shit
63 Joe Benson R-R 6'1" 205 Mar 5, 1988 shit
Darin Mastroianni R-R 5'11" 190 Aug 26, 1985 shit
11 Ben Revere L-R 5'9" 170 May 3, 1988 shit
2 Denard Span L-L 6'0" 210 Feb 27, 1984 shit
23 Rene Tosoni L-R 6'0" 195 Jul 2, 1986 shit
16 Josh Willingham R-R 6'2" 215 Feb 17, 1979 shit
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I know the Twins' roster is pretty bad, but it's not that bad...
 
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McNei1y

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Oh no, Mike Cameron is retiring! What are the Nats going to do in CF!...

I really wish Rizzo got a leadoff CF this offseason.
 
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darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
"We conceded the division two years ago cause of the previous setup," Cashman said. "I'm not taking away from Tampa Bay's eastern division title, but we didn't try to win the division. We tried to line up ourselves for the playoffs and that worked. We wound up sweeping Minnesota and going to play the Texas Rangers two years ago because we got our guys healthy and ready to go. Because, the division title, in essence - the way the wild card situation was sitting, it was rendered meaningless the way the setup was. Whether you're a wild card or division champ, it really meant nothing more than a t-shirt and a hat."

And this is why the new WC format exists. To stop dumb shit like that. Kudos to Cash for admitting it.
 
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Parch

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Ninja Scooter said:
are you guys ready to say "Hall of Famer Johnny Damon"?
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A couple more good years and he could get 3000 hits. Problem is I'm reading he's demanding 5 million per year. Same for Vladdy. They're not worth that, but they'd rather quit than accept the "insult" of taking 2 or 3 million per year.
 
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Ninja Scooter

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Parch said:
A couple more good years and he could get 3000 hits. Problem is I'm reading he's demanding 5 million per year. Same for Vladdy. They're not worth that, but they'd rather quit than accept the "insult" of taking 2 or 3 million per year.
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3000 hits or not he should not be a hall of famer.
 
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TheNatural

My Member!
bigtroyjon said:
Mike Cameron giving a clinic on how to a replace a hall of famer

Week into his first season after coming over for Griffey. One of the most under rated players in the last 30 years, Mariners didn't even offer him arbitration after a 5 WAR season in which he got paid 7 million. LOLBAVASI

4 HR game

Congrats on a great career Mike!
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Guy was a beast for the Reds before the Reds traded him. Helped lead the 1999 team to 90 plus wins and a playoff tiebreaker game. I haven't heard from him in a while, I figured he retired a while ago.
 
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TheNatural

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Also, picked up the Athlon Baseball preview mag just now, here's who they predicted:

AL division winners: NY, Detroit, Texas Wild cards (yes they have two): Anaheim, Tampa

ALCS: Texas over NY

NL divisions winners: Philly, STL, San Fran Wild Cards: Cincy, Zona

NLCS: Philly over San Fran

World Series: Texas over Philly


Don't go out on a limb or anything guys, sheesh.
 
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rekameohs

Banned
Is it prediction time I take it then?

AL East

NYY
TB
BOS
TOR
BAL

AL Central

DET
KC
CLE
MIN
CHW

AL West

LAA
TEX (wildcard)
SEA
OAK

NL East

PHI
ATL (wildcard)
MIA
WAS
NYM

NL Central

CIN
STL
MIL
PIT
CHC
HOU

NL West

ARI
SF
COL
LAD
SD

Really, I feel that only the AL Central seems like the only division with a clear front runner.
 
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Mr. Enigma

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vas_a_morir

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jakncoke said:
Pirates will take the Central
again some day, hopefully, maybe, please
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Homie, before the Rays made that amazing run to the world series, I remember thinking that it was hopeless for them. I think your day is coming. My gut tells me that we better try to win the division now while we can, because the Cubs are going to be coming up real soon.
 
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CygnusXS

will gain confidence one day
rekameohs said:
Is it prediction time I take it then?

Really, I feel that only the AL Central seems like the only division with a clear front runner.
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We usually wait until the new thread is posted, just so it's all in one place. I agree with you about the ALC though.
 
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Mr. Enigma

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The Braves have confirmed that Tim Hudson will start the 2012 season on the disabled list and is expected to miss the entire first month of the season recovering from offseason back surgery.

Hudson altered his delivery in September to ease the pain from his back. During his offseason workouts, he reached a point where the pain became unbearable. With the team's full blessing, he had back surgery in November to fuse his L5 and S1 vertebrae.

Despite the fact that he will miss about 4 or 5 starts, Hudson says his back feels better than it has in years.

"Honestly, I didn't really think back surgery was something I would do during my career," said Hudson, who has pitched with a degenerating disc in his back since his days with the Athletics. The pain has worsened during his time with the Braves.

When Hudson said he couldn't bend over to tie his shoes and struggled mightily to get out of bed two months into the offseason, he said it was time to have something done.

Hudson admitted that he planned on retiring after the 2012 season, the final year of his 3-year, $28 million deal signed with the Braves after the 2009 season. The pitcher who will turn 37 in July says he's no longer sees where the end of the road will be.

"Now that I’ve had it and I feel really good about it, I feel like I can play a long time," he said. "That [chronic pain] was going to be a reason why I was going to probably take it to the house [retire after his contract]…. But after getting it fixed, feeling the relief that I have just from 2-1/2 months [since surgery], it feels a thousand times better. If I want to play two, three or four more years, I feel comfortable that I can do it."

The Braves hold a $9 million 2013 club option on Hudson's contract.

Hudson expects to make his season debut in early May. This will open the door for Julio Teheran or Randall Delgado to break camp in the rotation.

Unless he has a disappointing spring, Mike Minor is expected to take the rotation spot previously held by Derek Lowe, who was traded to the Indians in November.
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Windu

never heard about the cat, apparently
oh wow, this is his last year? Hopefully he can go out on top. And i guess if i were to have a pitcher miss a month, it would be April. The schedules usually allow for 4 man rotations for like the first 2 weeks or so.

edit: oh, he changed his mind. I wonder if the braves will pick up his option next year. That 9 million probably could be better spent elsewhere considering our depth.
vas_a_morir said:
Who is doing the new thread?
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i still like the idea of getting curt shilling to do it.
 
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TheNatural

My Member!
vas_a_morir said:
Homie, before the Rays made that amazing run to the world series, I remember thinking that it was hopeless for them. I think your day is coming. My gut tells me that we better try to win the division now while we can, because the Cubs are going to be coming up real soon.
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Pirates looked good for about the first third or so of the year last year, then completely collapsed.

NL Central is the most exciting division in all of baseball IMO. So much parity, always. 5 of the 6 teams have had some good runs the past 7, 8 years. Won't miss the Stros much though.
 
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McNei1y

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TheNatural said:
Pirates looked good for about the first third or so of the year last year, then completely collapsed.

NL Central is the most exciting division in all of baseball IMO. So much parity, always. 5 of the 6 teams have had some good runs the past 7, 8 years. Won't miss the Stros much though.
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NL Central and AL East have always been the most entertaining in the past years but I think its going to change this year with the NL East on the rise. The Reds and the Cards battles will be entertaining this year. I'm just looking forward to my Nats and seeing how their pitching is going to be now. Seeing the rotation compared to prior years is sooogood.jpg
 
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Lambtron

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Never understood why your salt levels were so high over the Twins, Kev. The Yankees kick the shit out of them constantly.
 
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eznark

Banned
McNei1y said:
NL Central and AL East have always been the most entertaining in the past years but I think its going to change this year with the NL East on the rise. The Reds and the Cards battles will be entertaining this year. I'm just looking forward to my Nats and seeing how their pitching is going to be now. Seeing the rotation compared to prior years is sooogood.jpg
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McNei1y

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eznark said:
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Hey now! I'm just saying that IMO I don't know where the offense will come from with the possibility of losing Braun for 50 games and losing Prince. I guess I could be overlooking things though. If Weeks, Ramirez, Hart, and Gonzalez put up the numbers then I'll happily accept that I was proven wrong (and I prefer to be since the Brewers are a team I like to watch).
 
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Dmncnby2k9

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Nice article talking about the new Diamond Dynasty mode in The Show. Sounds interesting, cant make to create my own unis!
kotaku.com said:
What MLB The Show’s "Diamond Dynasty" Is, and Why It Isn’t Another Ultimate Team

Cards, collections, virtual currency— when "Diamond Dynasty" appeared in a retail listing as a new mode for MLB 12 The Show, everyone thought they knew what it was: A feature that would borrow heavily from EA Sports' "Ultimate Team," which has been a cash cow for its FIFA, NHL and Madden franchises.
It would seem to make sense. EA Sports has no baseball presence, and the game is a natural for anything built on a sports card motif. Plus, it might make sense for Sony to move into this territory now, in case EA Sports returns to it after 2K's baseball license expires this year.

After talking with Sony's San Diego Studio, the makers of the widely acclaimed MLB The Show series, it sounds like all "Diamond Dynasty" has in common with "Ultimate Team," is the fact neither gives you a stick of gum when you open a fresh pack.

"I actually like it when people bring that up," said Nick Livingston, one of The Show's designers. It gives him a chance to tell them what's actually different, he said.

Let's start with the fact that this, very deliberately, will not be a pay-to-win game. Those with the wallet and the willingness (or inhuman amounts of time to play the game) can buy packs of highly-ranked cards in "Ultimate Team" and eventually end up with a team full of superstars, capable of manhandling most any competition. Though "Diamond Dynasty" will allow you to buy up a team full of major league stars, there are several controls in place that keep that from being a productive or even an encouraged goal.

The first is the fact teams will be made up of both real-life baseball stars and randomized "Dynasty players" (where Ultimate Team is populated entirely by existing stars.) This presents a two-prong strategy for building your team. One strategy is to acquire a bunch of free agents, who will be available to you for a much shorter time (like, 10 games). The second is to develop the generic Dynasty players, whose names and appearances are all editable, by training them up. Dynasty players will be available for about 35 to 40 games, which accounts for the time necessary to grow them.

You can't, however, train real-life stars. They are 10-game hired guns in the truest sense of the word. And while virtual currency ("budget" was the term used) is acquired in every game you complete online or offline, any extra currency you buy cannot be applied to a player's training.

Diamond Dynasty, quite deliberately, isn't a pay-to-win game.
What unfolds, then, is a team that really does reflect its owner's skill at management and gameplay. A team full of premium MLB stars is not going to last long enough to move you up the leaderboards in Diamond Dynasty. That was very important to the designers in San Diego. "We wanted it to be a real online ranking, where your ranking counts," Livingston said.

"We didn't want this to be a pay-to-win mode. When you look at games like Starcraft, big online competitive games, we used the same sort of base matchmaking and rating system in this mode.," he said. "We want people who go online to be guaranteed to be matched against people who are comparable to their skill level. We also want to give people at the top the knowledge that they really belong there. Only the best people will be at the top of the system. You could throw in tons of money, it's not going to put you at the top of the leaderboard."

For the Dynasty Players, development will be focused on two areas: his "Aptitude" rating, and the number of tools he brings.

Training will show you how much budget you need to spend to bring a player up to a certain rating. A high aptitude makes that process go more quickly. However, "tools"—which show proficiency in the five classic areas: hitting, hitting for power, running, fielding and throwing—should also be considered. A low-aptitude player becomes more valuable if he has a diverse toolset. A player with a single tool can become a specialist.

Finally, there is a means of swapping out duplicate MLB stars or cards that you don't want. A "recycler" will allow players to put submit two to five cards and get back one that represents a combination of his talents. For example, putting three pitchers into the recycle will spit back a pitcher with ratings somewhere near the average of all three. Two major leaguers returns another major leaguer. A mishmash delivers a random result, but the rating will be stronger.

Though players can buy up free agents, the top performers must show they can develop unknowns.
That, plus a marketplace where players can post buy and sell orders for certain types of cards, should stand in the place of a trading system, which The Show's designers said they were unable to implement this year.

As to cards, they really only have meaning when they're part of a player's reserve collection. When a player is activated, his virtual card is, more or less, destroyed. Each Diamond Dynasty team will have up to 25 active players, that can compete in online games against other teams, or offline against major league teams from the game (beating them will unlock that stadium for your own use.) The rest, up to your cap of 100, are held in reserve and are only there for collection purposes. No training can be performed on Diamond Dynasty players in reserve.

Though virtual currency is available for sale, I asked why anyone would buy it if it can't be used to boost a team's quality. Livingston said they wanted to leave open the option for Show gamers to try to acquire their favorite players, or a collection of their favorite team. Also, one would have to deliberately bankrupt his team to run out of the freely-acquired money used to develop it. That said, someone in a losing streak or needing a leg up at the beginning may want to invest in short-term free agents.

Diamond Dynasty should appeal to baseball fans' peculiar aesthetics in other ways, too. An extremely deep customization engine will allow you to give your team unique uniforms, logos, and dugout apparel like warmup jackets. The logo creation system will be similar to that of Gran Turismo 5 and support up to 1,000 layers; its text will involve four fonts common to classic baseball uniform design. Dynasty players also are editable in everything except for their attributes. The common example given is bringing your old high school team into the game.

link to some screenshots of Diamond Dynasty. http://kotaku.com/5886223/mlb-12-the-show-diamond-dynasty-images/gallery/1
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