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[Frozenprince]

Kelly's an OK relief prospect option, but wow they got a real life catching prospect too? I'm good with this.

Best for both sides really. Padres catchers are stupid horrible bad, and Bethancourt will have a full season of starter reps to see if he can turn it around.

 

[RBH]

David O'Brien ‏@DOBrienAJC
#Braves traded CBethancourt to Padres for RH Casey Kelly and minor league catcher Ricardo Rodriguez

 

[jman2050]

Nats having Heyward for ten years will soften the blow when Bryce signs his $500 mil contract with the Yankees.

 

[CygnusXS]

I'm watching a playlist of bench clearing brawls from 2015 and 4 of the first 5 have featured the Royals, two of those with Ventura pitching. Must have been a fun team to watch all year.

 

[zroid]

Gibby looking sharp

Gibby is the best

fuck da haters

 

[Josh5890]

Come on Heyward. Come to Chicago and make a home on Clark and Addison

 

[3N16MA]

Harper and heyward in the same outfield? That might be the best outfield in mlb with just those two players alone.

The OF I want the Yanks to have in 2019.

 

[Alex Stroud]

Still scratching my head over that Cabrera deal. An offensive black hole with wildly diminishing defensive skills when Flores and Tejada are already on the roster. Is it a grit thing or something?

I guess the Mest set a precedent last year when they inexplicably awarded Cuddyer $21 million and received 1.0 WAR this past year in return.

 

[Carpe Libertatem]

I guess the Mest set a precedent last year when they inexplicably awarded Cuddyer $21 million and received 1.0 WAR this past year in return.

$21 million and a first round draft pick!

 

[chicagocubsfan]

I'm watching a playlist of bench clearing brawls from 2015 and 4 of the first 5 have featured the Royals, two of those with Ventura pitching. Must have been a fun team to watch all year.

The Bucs-Cubs one was so desperate it was embarrassing.

 

[Beckx]

The Bucs-Cubs one was so desperate it was embarrassing.

What's so embarassing about

RodriguezGatorade.gif

oh

we're apparently re-signing him too

 

[chicagocubsfan]

Can the Heyward drama end already?

 

[Sanjuro]

All that is left are overpriced scraps. Heyward I think is an OKAY investment for his age, but isn't Gordon the obvious choice here?

 

[BFIB]

Can the Heyward drama end already?

We're getting there. Mystery team involved, that's usually the home stretch. I think he comes off the board today.

 

[Carpe Libertatem]

All that is left are overpriced scraps. Heyward I think is an OKAY investment for his age, but isn't Gordon the obvious choice here?

Gordon will be 32 and after a 5 year contract will be older than Heyward would be after a 10 year contract (even though there would be an opt out)

He might be a good bet but that depends on how much he gets (which depends on how much Heyward gets)

I keep thinking Justin Upton might be a really good lowkey move. Only 28, seemingly atheltic, seems to not get as much attention as the other OFers

 

[Sanjuro]

Gordon will be 32 and after a 5 year contract will be older than Heyward would be after a 10 year contract (even though there would be an opt out)

He might be a good bet but that depends on how much he gets (which depends on how much Heyward gets)

I keep thinking Justin Upton might be a really good lowkey move. Only 28, seemingly atheltic, seems to not get as much attention as the other OFers

He comes with Melvin though.

 

[sf2fanatic]

His stat line for last year is weird, in many ways he was worse than year before, but gave up way fewer HRs and the K/9 is nice, so his FIP was was lower than his entire career.

Donny used him the second half more against right handers and it was good.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

http://m.dodgers.mlb.com/news/article/159391448

And now, after losing Zack Greinke to the division-rival D-backs and nearly trading for Reds closer Aroldis Chapman, the Dodgers reportedly have entered the mix for Cueto, according to CBS Sports.

Cueto, 29, already turned down a six-year, $120 million offer from Arizona this offseason, before the club turned to Greinke.

 

[jbug617]

Marlins told the Red Sox it would take Eduardo Rodriguez, Mookie Betts, Yoan Moncada, Christian Vazquez and 1 more pitching prospect for Fernandez.

 

[Doogdogg]

Here's what the Marlins wanted from Boston for Fernandez:

Mookie Betts
Eduardo Rodriguez
Christian Vazquez
Yoan Moncada
pitching prospect, i.e; Anderson Espinoza

 

[Doogdogg]

Marlins told the Red Sox it would take Eduardo Rodriguez, Mookie Betts, Yoan Moncada, Christian Vazquez and 1 more pitching prospect for Fernandez.

Oh hey you beat me to it. I laughed so hard when typing it up myself.

 

[LyleLanley]

Marlins told the Red Sox it would take Eduardo Rodriguez, Mookie Betts, Yoan Moncada, Christian Vazquez and 1 more pitching prospect for Fernandez.

Oh, that's it?

 

[Couleurs]

Marlins told the Red Sox it would take Eduardo Rodriguez, Mookie Betts, Yoan Moncada, Christian Vazquez and 1 more pitching prospect for Fernandez.

So Fernandez isn't really on the market, Loria just wanted to troll a bunch of other teams, got it

 

[XiaNaphryz]

So Fernandez isn't really on the market, Loria just wanted to troll a bunch of other teams, got it

Blame the Dbacks, Loria may actually think someone will bite on that after the Miller trade.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Oh, that's it?

And the frozen head of a former player to be named later.

 

[Carpe Libertatem]

Sounds like Heyward may have made a decision

Spoiler

not the Cardinals, looking forward to competing for wild card

 

[zroid]

Sounds like Heyward may have made a decision

Spoiler

not the Cardinals, looking forward to competing for wild card

Curveball! He's going to Korea!

 

[bonesmccoy]

I finally listened to a Toronto sports radio show that wasn't talking about hockey.

And heard some awkwardly voiced nimbus say that the Jays' players must be so angry right now over the 'perceived lack of ambition' in the club... because a team featuring Donaldson, Tulo, JB, Russ Martin and EE is clearly aiming to be a non-contender in the AL this year.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

I finally listened to a Toronto sports radio show that wasn't talking about hockey.

And heard some awkwardly voiced nimbus say that the Jays' players must be so angry right now over the 'perceived lack of ambition' in the club... because a team featuring Donaldson, Tulo, JB, Russ Martin and EE is clearly aiming to be a non-contender in the AL this year.

They know that The Show cover jinx will hit Donaldson hard.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

I don't know, not even making an offer to the ace that helped save your season despite having the money and resources to do so, and then proceeding to sign JA Happ for $13 million a year, would cause me to question their ambition too.

 

[BFIB]

Goold reports Heyward has made a decision, he believes its with the Cubs. Said from his sources close to Heyward's agency that St. Louis was not the choice.


FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKK!

 

[jbug617]

Cards are out on Heyward. Cubs seem to be the favs. Heyman says the Nats might have offered $200m.

 

[LyleLanley]

Belief is that nats offered about $200M (maybe exactly $200M), yet doesn't look like it'll be them. That's a big try here.

That's a lot of money to turn down.

 

[zroid]

I finally listened to a Toronto sports radio show that wasn't talking about hockey.

And heard some awkwardly voiced nimbus say that the Jays' players must be so angry right now over the 'perceived lack of ambition' in the club... because a team featuring Donaldson, Tulo, JB, Russ Martin and EE is clearly aiming to be a non-contender in the AL this year.

You don't get it man. If a team doesn't hand out the richest SP contract in MLB history that means they're not trying to win!


Was it Gareth Wheeler? Sounds like Gareth Wheeler.

 

[BFIB]

Cardinals are having a terrible offseason. Lose out on Price, lose out on Heyward. That org. north came to play, Cards need to step up.

 

[The Elite]

I finally listened to a Toronto sports radio show that wasn't talking about hockey.

And heard some awkwardly voiced nimbus say that the Jays' players must be so angry right now over the 'perceived lack of ambition' in the club... because a team featuring Donaldson, Tulo, JB, Russ Martin and EE is clearly aiming to be a non-contender in the AL this year.

They have, well, the best offense in the league.

They have a decent rotation that could use at least one more arm but the bullpen, our weakest aspect during the playoffs, needs to be given a boost before the season starts. Not addressing that issue before the start of last season really hurt us in the first half.

Jays are probably banking on getting a starter at the trade deadline if the team is in it but they should at least address the bullpen now. It's not even a bad bullpen but there are obvious holes.

I am a little disappointed with the lack of action on the bullpen front. Wouldn't be surprised if the players are either. Still, this is a capable team.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

So the Cardinals basically traded a $200 million pitcher for nothing?

 

[Malo]

So the Cardinals basically traded a $200 million pitcher for nothing?

I hope this becomes our 6org.

 

[rando14]

Go 6org!!

 

[BFIB]

Cards "officially out" and have become "very aggressive" on Alex Gordon, per Goold.

 

[thefro]

Nationals "not optimistic" on Heyward

So Cubs or mystery team

 

[bonesmccoy]

I don't know, not even making an offer to the ace that helped save your season despite having the money and resources to do so, and then proceeding to sign JA Happ for $13 million a year, would cause me to question their ambition too.

I get that, but I think it's a little strange to think that shoring up the rotation/bullpen with Estrada, Happ and Chavez is an outright negative statement on the club's ambitions, which is how lots of Jays fans are taking it.

 

[chicagocubsfan]

It's happening isn't it. Unless the mystery team shows up.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Cards "officially out" and have become "very aggressive" on Alex Gordon, per Goold.

I'm guessing they'll also check into Upton as well.

 

[HarryDemeanor]

Friedman must be cooking up something special.

 

[BFIB]

Gordon makes a lot of sense for the Cards, but what is his cost going to be now?

EDIT: Local radio here in St. Louis reporting CarGo is their "other option to pursue" and that Mo has turned his attention to Colorado over the past couple of days. Got a feeling the Cards left Nashville knowing they wouldn't be a favorite to land Heyward.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Friedman must be cooking up something special.

6 yrs/150m for Cueto.

 

[jbug617]

Gordon makes a lot of sense for the Cards, but what is his cost going to be now?

Around $90m

 

[zroid]

They have, well, the best offense in the league.

They have a decent rotation that could use at least one more arm but the bullpen, our weakest aspect during the playoffs, needs to be given a boost before the season starts. Not addressing that issue before the start of last season really hurt us in the first half.

Jays are probably banking on getting a starter at the trade deadline if the team is in it but they should at least address the bullpen now. It's not even a bad bullpen but there are obvious holes.

I am a little disappointed with the lack of action on the bullpen front. Wouldn't be surprised if the players are either. Still, this is a capable team.

What I think people are forgetting is that the Jays had the best run differential in the majors before making any trades. You don't get that without a good balance of both starting pitching and offence.

However you do end up with a mediocre record with a good RD if your high leverage innings are bad... which they were for like 3 months. Osuna becoming the closer, Cecil returning to form (and then some), and Sanchez going to the bullpen were the biggest catalysts for the second half success IMO.

 

[LyleLanley]

Heyward to the Cubs according to Heyman.