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MLB - Official 2012 Season Thread: Bringing in Bobby V to Change Our Culture |OT2|

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The Miami Marlins have approached the Boston Red Sox about a blockbuster trade that would send left fielder Carl Crawford and a prospect to South Florida for infielder Hanley Ramirez and closer Heath Bell, according to three officials with knowledge of the talks who spoke to USA TODAY Sports on the condition of anonymity because negotiations are ongoing.

The trade would involve three All-Star players signed to contracts guaranteeing $239 million, making it the second-biggest swap of contracts in baseball history. The 2004 trade that sent Alex Rodriguez to the New York Yankees from the Texas Rangers for Alfonso Soriano involved more than $257 million in contracts, including Rodriguez's 10-year, $252 million deal that he was three seasons into.

Crawford, a four-time All-Star, is in the second year of an seven-year, $142 million deal, which is a record for an outfielder. Ramirez, a three-time All-Star and former batting champion, is in the fourth year of a six-year, $70 million contract. And Bell, a three-time All-Star, is in the first year of a three-year, $27 million pact.

Marlins vice president Dan Jennings is in Boston scouting Crawford. The Red Sox insist they are not shopping Crawford.

"We have not offered Carl to a single team," Red Sox general manager Ben Cherington told USA TODAY Sports. "We have not pursued anything on Carl Crawford. Carl is our left fielder."

The biggest impediment to a deal, according to one of the officials, is the Marlins' indecision whether to unload their high-paid players and abandon playoff hopes for this season and build for next season, or try to overcome the nine-game deficit they face in the NL East and 5½ games they trail for an NL wild-card berth.

"It's up to the players," Marlins manager Ozzie Guillen told reporters Monday. "If they play good, nobody is going to leave. If they play bad …it's part of the business. It's a big week for us, yes."

The Marlins, according to one of the officials, are also discussing trades that will send infielder Omar Infante to Detroit, and deals involving starters Josh Johnson and Anibal Sanchez.

Yet, no trade would have a bigger impact than sending Ramirez back to Boston, seven years after he was traded to Miami along with Sanchez for starter Josh Beckett and third baseman Mike Lowell.

The Red Sox have coveted Ramirez, 28, almost since the day he left. He was the 2006 National League Rookie of the Year and won the batting title in 2009 with a career-high .342 average, but he has struggled the past 1½ seasons. He hit a career-low .243 with 10 homers and 45 RBI last season, and after moving to third base this year to make room for All-Star shortstop Jose Reyes, is hitting just .249 with a .326 on-base percentage, 14 homers and 47 RBI.

Crawford, who missed the Red Sox's first 89 games with elbow, wrist and groin injuries, returned to the lineup Monday. He hit a career-low .255 with a .289 on-base percentage last year but has four hits and three stolen bases in his first two games back. The Marlins, according to one of the officials, believe he'll be a much more productive player away from the pressure of Boston. He has no-trade rights to only two teams, and can't ever be traded to the Yankees, but the Marlins are not on his no-trade list.

Bell, who saved 132 games the previous three years for the San Diego Padres, has struggled his first season in Miami. He lost his closer's job after blowing a major-league leading six saves in the first half, and has a 6.38 ERA.
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http://www.usatoday.com/sports/base...carl-crawford-hanley-ramirez-trade/56309810/1



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Hamels was offered 6 years $130 million according to Knobler of CBSSports. He says it's probably not enough at this point.
 
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JABEE said:
Hamels was offered 6 years $130 million according to Knobler of CBSSports. He says it's probably not enough at this point.
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If he doesnt take that he is insane. Are there any good FA outfielders available this offseason? I would rather have a big hitting outfielder and a solid #4 or 5 starter for that money.
 
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sangreal said:
Melky and Hamilton

(and Swisher, but thats more like $10-12M/yr)
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Thanks, no way would I want Melky. I wonder if the Rangers can sign Hamilton or not. I would love to see the Phils break the bank for him. It sucks that the Phils are going to have an insane amount of money to spend this offseason but there wont be a lot of guys that could really help them.
 
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Baseball’s first Competitive Balance Lottery took place in New York City today. The lottery, which allocates additional draft picks to small-market and low-revenue teams, provides teams with draft choices they can choose to use or trade. The Diamondbacks, Orioles, Indians, Royals, Athletics, Pirates, Padres, Rays, Reds, Rockies, Marlins, Brewers and Cardinals were eligible to obtain draft picks. The Tigers were also eligible, though only for the group of selections that takes place after the second round. Here are the results, via MLB.com:

Selections Between First & Second Rounds (Round A)

Royals
Pirates
Diamondbacks
Orioles
Reds
Marlins

Selections After Second Round (Round B)

Padres
Indians
Rockies
Athletics
Brewers
Tigers

The Rays and Cardinals did not receive a pick in either of the Competitive Balance Lottery Rounds.

God damn thing was rigged. David Stern is running MLB too.
 
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Alvarez with his HR.

I expect him to strike out the rest of the game now.


darkside31337 said:
Baseball’s first Competitive Balance Lottery took place in New York City today. The lottery, which allocates additional draft picks to small-market and low-revenue teams, provides teams with draft choices they can choose to use or trade. The Diamondbacks, Orioles, Indians, Royals, Athletics, Pirates, Padres, Rays, Reds, Rockies, Marlins, Brewers and Cardinals were eligible to obtain draft picks. The Tigers were also eligible, though only for the group of selections that takes place after the second round. Here are the results, via MLB.com:

Selections Between First & Second Rounds (Round A)

Royals
Pirates
Diamondbacks
Orioles
Reds
Marlins

Selections After Second Round (Round B)

Padres
Indians
Rockies
Athletics
Brewers
Tigers

The Rays and Cardinals did not receive a pick in either of the Competitive Balance Lottery Rounds.

God damn thing was rigged. David Stern is running MLB too.
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Excellent :)

Wonder how this compensation pick will factor into the trades we make before the deadline. We already have 2 first round picks due to Appel not signing with us, so we're not exactly in need of this compensation pick.
 
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harSon

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Way to show up the league for snubbing you in the All-Star game McDonald, sucking two games in a row is the way to show we're great!
 
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RBH

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darkside31337 said:
Baseball’s first Competitive Balance Lottery took place in New York City today. The lottery, which allocates additional draft picks to small-market and low-revenue teams, provides teams with draft choices they can choose to use or trade. The Diamondbacks, Orioles, Indians, Royals, Athletics, Pirates, Padres, Rays, Reds, Rockies, Marlins, Brewers and Cardinals were eligible to obtain draft picks. The Tigers were also eligible, though only for the group of selections that takes place after the second round. Here are the results, via MLB.com:

Selections Between First & Second Rounds (Round A)

Royals
Pirates
Diamondbacks
Orioles
Reds
Marlins

Selections After Second Round (Round B)

Padres
Indians
Rockies
Athletics
Brewers
Tigers

The Rays and Cardinals did not receive a pick in either of the Competitive Balance Lottery Rounds.

God damn thing was rigged. David Stern is running MLB too.
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Curious as to how the Tigers were eligible for this. What's the exact criteria for eligibility beyond being a small-market/low revenue team?



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The picks are divided into two groups — six picks at the end of the first round, six more at the end of the second. The first group of picks are given out among teams with the 10 smallest markets or 10 lowest revenues. That includes 13 teams: D-backs, Orioles, Indians, Royals, A’s, Pirates, Padres, Rays, Reds, Rockies, Marlins, Brewers and Cardinals.
Six of those 13 teams will end up with a pick. The other seven teams will enter the lottery for the second group of picks. By rule, teams who receive revenue sharing money and aren’t located among the top 15 markets are also added to that mix. Only one team qualifies this year under those rules — the Tigers. Detroit barely falls outside the top 15 markets, but it does, and the Tigers apparently received a little bit of revenue sharing money last year.
The Tigers will be one of eight teams vying for six picks, so their chances are pretty good. That said, teams’ chances are higher or lower based on their winning percentage last season. So the Tigers’ best shot is if teams like the Royals, Pirates, Padres and Orioles win picks in the first round, pitting Detroit against teams like Milwaukee, St. Louis and Tampa Bay in the second round.
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http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/07/competitive-balance-lottery-results.html#comment-591341701
 
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RBH said:
"There's a storm coming, Mr. Wayne."
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I just want to watch the Nats

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