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MLB - Official 2012 Season Thread: Bringing in Bobby V to Change Our Culture |OT2|

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Bowflex

The fact that anyone supports Hillary boggles my mind... I have tested between 130-160 on IQ tests
Yeah that was pretty silly. But hey -

JOE NATHAN!!

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STANDINGS UPDATE FOR SEPTEMBER 6

IF THE SEASON ENDED TODAY:

AL East Tiebreaker: Yankees @ Orioles
AL Wild Card Game: Orioles @ Athletics -OR- Athletics @ Yankees

NL Wild Card Game: Cardinals @ Braves

ALDS Game 1: Rangers @ Athletics -OR- Orioles - OR - Yankees
ALDS Game 1: White Sox @ Yankees -OR- White Sox @ Orioles

NLDS Game 1: Nationals @ Braves -OR- Cardinals
NLDS Game 1: Giants @ Reds

American League

EAST
LEADER: Yankees/Orioles
MAGIC NUMBER: 26
Code:
             W         L         GB
Orioles      77        60       ---
Yankees      77        60       ---
Rays         75        62       2.0

CENTRAL
LEADER: White Sox
MAGIC NUMBER: 26
Code:
             W         L         GB
White Sox    74        62        ---
Tigers       73        63        1.0

WEST
LEADER: Rangers
MAGIC NUMBER: 21
Code:
             W         L         GB
Rangers      82        55        ---
Athletics    76        60        5.5
Angels       74        63        8.0

WILD CARD
LEADER #1: Athletics/Orioles/Yankees
LEADER #2: ---
MAGIC NUMBER: 25
Code:
             W         L         GB
Athletics    76        60        ---
Orioles      76        60        ---
Yankees	     76        60        ---
Rays         75        62        2.0
Angels       74        63        3.0
Tigers       73        63        3.5

REMAINING GAMES (bold = .500):
Rangers - 25 (3 @ TB, OFF, 3 v CLE, 3 v SEA, OFF, 3 @ LAA, 3 @ SEA, 4 v OAK, 3 v LAA, 3 @ OAK)

Orioles - 25 (3 v NYY, OFF, 3 v TOR, 3 @ OAK, 3 @ SEA, OFF, 3 @ BOS, 4 v TOR, OFF, 3 v BOS, 3 @ TB)

Yankees - 25 (3 @ BAL, OFF, 3 @ BOS, 3 @ TB, OFF, 3 v TOR, 3 v OAK, 3 @ MIN, 4 @ TOR, 3 v BOS)

White Sox - 26 (3 v KC, 4 v DET, 3 @ MIN, OFF, 3 @ KC, 3 @ LAA, 3 v CLE, 4 v TB, 3 @ CLE)

Athletics - 26 (3 @ SEA, 4 @ LAA, 3 v BAL, OFF, 3 @ DET, 3 @ NYY, 4 @ TEX, 3 v SEA, 3 v TEX)

Rays - 25 (3 v TEX, OFF, 3 @ BAL, 3 @ NYY, 4 v BOS, 3 v TOR, OFF, 2 @ BOS, 4 @ CWS, 3 v BOS)

Angels - 25 (3 v DET, 4 v OAK, 3 @ KC, OFF, 3 v TEX, 3 v CWS, OFF, 3 v SEA, 3 @ TEX, 3 @ SEA)

Tigers - 26 (3 @ LAA, 4 @ CWS, 3 @ CLE, OFF, 3 v OAK, 3 v MIN, 4 v KC, 3 @ MIN, 3 @ KC)

National League

EAST
LEADER: Nationals
MAGIC NUMBER: 18
Code:
             W         L         GB
Nationals    85        52        ---
Braves       78        60        7.5

CENTRAL
LEADER: Reds
MAGIC NUMBER: 17
Code:
             W         L         GB
Reds         83        55        ---
Cardinals    74        63        8.5
Pirates      72        64        10.0

WEST
LEADER: Giants
MAGIC NUMBER: 21
Code:
             W         L         GB
Giants       77        60        ---
Dodgers      73        65        4.5

WILD CARD
LEADER #1: Braves
LEADER #2: Cardinals
MAGIC NUMBER: 25
Code:
             W         L         GB
Braves       78        60       +3.5
Cardinals    74        63        ---
Dodgers      73        65        1.5
Pirates      72        64        1.5

REMAINING GAMES (bold = .500):
Nationals - 25 (3 v MIA, 3 @ NYM, OFF, 3 @ ATL, OFF, 3 v LAD, 4 v MIL, 3 @ PHI, 3 @ STL, 3 v PHI)

Reds - 24 (3 v HOU, 3 v PIT, OFF, 3 @ MIA, OFF, 3 @ CHC, 3 v LAD, OFF, 3 v MIL, 3 @ PIT, 3 @ STL)

Giants - 25 (3 v LAD, 3 @ COL, OFF, 3 @ ARI, 4 v COL, 3 v SD, OFF, 3 v ARI, 3 @ SD, 3 @ LAD)

Braves - 24 (3 @ NYM, 3 @ MIL, OFF, 3 v WAS, 3 @ MIA, OFF, 3 @ PHI, OFF, 3 v MIA, 3 v NYM, 3 @ PIT)

Cardinals - 25 (3 v MIL, 3 @ SD, 4 @ LAD, OFF, 3 v HOU, 3 @ CHC, 3 @ HOU, OFF, 3 v WAS, 3 v CIN)

Dodgers - 24 (3 @ SF, OFF, 2 @ ARI, 4 v STL, OFF, 3 @ WAS, 3 @ CIN, OFF, 3 @ SD, 3 v COL, 3 v SF)

Pirates - 26 (3 v CHC, 3 @ CIN, OFF, 4 @ CHC, 3 v MIL, 3 @ HOU, 4 @ NYM, 3 v CIN, 3 v ATL)
 

cashman

Banned
Please send good vibes McCarthy's way brahs.

He's got all the good vibes he needs brah

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Did anyone hear Michael Kay going all sour grapes during today's game? After Mark Reynolds' HR he was like "I wouldn't be posing if I hit a HR 337 feet down the left field line."

...

Does he not realize what the Left Field Dimensions are in NYFS?
 
Did anyone hear Michael Kay going all sour grapes during today's game? After Mark Reynolds' HR he was like "I wouldn't be posing if I hit a HR 337 feet down the left field line."

...

Does he not realize what the Left Field Dimensions are in NYFS?


..*sigh* I hate to ask but what does NYFS stand for?
*sigh*... this is why I don't listen to WFAN anymore. my god so many brain damaged people. no wonder Yankee fans have such a bad rap. it makes me sad.... :(
 

Sharp

Member
The Nats' regular middle infielders (LaRoche, Espinosa, Desmond, and Zimmerman) have a combined 15.2 fWAR this year. The Astros' entire team (hitting and pitching) has 15.3. Folks, I think we have found our real end of season race.
 

McNei1y

Member
I attended last night's game and it was awesome. I didn't know what was going on when the benches cleared but it was so awesome to witness. I've never seen that before in person. Watching the videos now is even cooler. Edwin Jackson and Morse were pisssssssssed.

Edit: what the hell is up with Mark Reynolds? Holy shit he is on fire.
 
I wonder what other changes are coming apart from the logos at SB Nation.

I hope they don't turn evil, lol.

" the actual nuts and bolts redesign is going to be a godsend.

I don’t know how much i can reveal . . . but here are some of the things in our future:

-faster load times -all the information you want in easier to find places -no more scrolling for days to get back to that post that was 2 days ago that has a great conversation in it -new layout -new features -more media integration

essentially, everything that makes this site awesome, but with fewer of the annoying parts."
 

Sharp

Member
" the actual nuts and bolts redesign is going to be a godsend.

I don’t know how much i can reveal . . . but here are some of the things in our future:

-faster load times -all the information you want in easier to find places -no more scrolling for days to get back to that post that was 2 days ago that has a great conversation in it -new layout -new features -more media integration

essentially, everything that makes this site awesome, but with fewer of the annoying parts."
Does this mean search is going to stop returning zero results half the time?
 
Shoehorning the 2nd WC into this year's schedule was always a dumb idea. I hope the most convoluted scenario happens in both leagues this year so Selig realizes what a mistake it was.
 

Windu

never heard about the cat, apparently
The Nats' regular middle infielders (LaRoche, Espinosa, Desmond, and Zimmerman) have a combined 15.2 fWAR this year. The Astros' entire team (hitting and pitching) has 15.3. Folks, I think we have found our real end of season race.
braves outfield (prado, bourn, heyward 17.1) > Astros > nationals infield
 
Also, we have some information on next year's schedule.

-- Final day is Sunday, September 29

-- Each team will play 20 interleague games and there will be at least one interleague series in each month of the season. Divisions will play the same teams everyone else in the division plays with the exception of a four-game "rivalry series"

-- Intradivision games will be expanded to 76 games which each team playing teams in their own division 19 times

-- 66 games against the other 10 teams in the league

2013 schedules should be released sometime next week.
 

cashman

Banned
How about this for a trade?

Elvis Andrus, Martin Perez, Mike Olt, and Kevin Matthews for Teixeira?

Yikes. Why would the Yankees make this trade right?

http://network.yardbarker.com/mlb/a..._the_rangers_trade_for_mark_teixeira/11637592

-- Each team will play 20 interleague games and there will be at least one interleague series in each month of the season. Divisions will play the same teams everyone else in the division plays with the exception of a four-game "rivalry series"

ugh, get rid of these shitty "rivalry" games.
 
Shoehorning the 2nd WC into this year's schedule was always a dumb idea. I hope the most convoluted scenario happens in both leagues this year so Selig realizes what a mistake it was.

I agree I hope there is a 4 way tie for the WC's in the NL, lets sy the Braves, Cards, Brewers, and oh I dont know the Phillies all finish tied.
 

Windu

never heard about the cat, apparently
sooo its chipper's last series in NY....will he get a few cheers or larry chants in his first plate appearance?
Great article on ESPN about the potential nightmare of tiebreakers and how the Union forsaw this so they blocked teams being forced to travel to mutiple cities every day.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/page/rumblings120907/baseball-potential-postseason-mess
I hope this blows up in selig's face.
ugh, get rid of these shitty "rivalry" games.
cosigned
 

XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Dave Cameron - Angel Pagan is most underrated player in baseball:

However, the more I thought about it, the more I realized there’s one guy who fits the bill perfectly. He’s played for three teams in his seven year career, each of whom play in a major media market. He’s currently a vital cog on a first place team, and yet his performance has gone mostly overlooked. He’s one of the better available pieces in the often disparaged class of 2013 free agents, but MLBTradeRumors hasn’t written about him since June. He’s a really good player on a winning team who has spent his entire career playing in front of large audiences, and yet, he’s still off most people’s radar. In terms of production in environments where that should garner you some recognition, there is perhaps no player in baseball more underrated than Angel Pagan.

Over the last four years, Pagan has accumulated just over 2,100 plate appearances and produced +12.9 WAR, or an average of +3.7 WAR per 600 PA. Some other players in MLB who have averaged between +3.5 and +4.0 WAR per 600 PA over the last four years: Mark Teixeira, Jay Bruce, and Curtis Granderson. I think you might hear a little bit more about them than you do about Pagan.


This isn’t even a case like Gordon’s where a lot of his value is tied up in league-best fielding marks by UZR – Pagan’s UZR over the last four years is just +8 while splitting his time between all three outfield positions, so his value has come despite being regarded as just as slightly above average defender. In reality, Pagan is just a good all-around player who produces value in every aspect of the game.

His 110 wRC+ this year is an exact match for the average he’s put up over the last four years, which puts him ahead of the likes of Michael Bourn (108) and B.J. Upton (105), the two center fielders who get the most attention for their upcoming free agency this winter. It also puts him in the same territory as guys like Adam Jones (111) and Derek Jeter (113), both of whom are recognized as valuable contributors because of their ability to produce offense at an up-the-middle position.

In addition to being an above average hitter and an above average fielder, Pagan is also an excellent baserunner, which is an area that is often overlooked in producing value. Since the start of the 2009 season, he’s stolen 106 bases — 7th most in the majors — while only getting caught 30 times, a success rate of 78%. He’s also added +11 runs in baserunning value aside from his SB/CS totals, ranking him in the top ten in the majors over the last four years.

He’s an above average hitter, an above average fielder, an excellent baserunner, a switch-hitter who can produce from both sides of the plate, and he’s currently one of the main reasons the San Francisco Giants are in first place in the NL West. And yet, Angel Pagan continues to toil in relative obscurity. For those reasons, and with all due respect to Alex Gordon, I nominate Pagan as the most underrated player in baseball today.
 
I am so fucking ready for this series. Fuck the Dodgers and fuck that shit hole we call SoCal. We're gonna go 7.5 games on your 6.2 billion dollar sorry ass roster.
 

clemenx

Banned
No, fuck Pagan. He keeps streaking flucky seasons.

Sandy should've gotten someone better, though.

Also, who the hell would trade for Tex? And for that package? Lolol
 
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