even if he stays on the field, i dont think you know just how bad uggla is.
uggla also makes like 13 million a season.
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even if he stays on the field, i dont think you know just how bad uggla is.
uggla also makes like 13 million a season.
im actually glad to see Girardi get some recognition. I think hes done a great job since coming over to the yankees. certainly a better job than the last yankees manager.
I thought this was pretty interesting. This company showed off all of the marketing tools and ideas that they had to promote the Oakland A's during the 2004 season:
http://www.brandtank.com/MLB-Oakland-A-s
http://www.brandtank.com/MLB-Oakland-A-s
Yankees are going to end up using 3 different 2B men.
Are you serious? You don't think I'm aware? Why do you think I'm constantly talking about him and trying to get rid of him?
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Duane Cunningham
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Cross posting from MLS-Gaf, the Royals put this billboard up. Warms me heart.
Also, Omar's press conference is over. Between him and Nori, I'm so ready for 2014. One more starter and the Royals are playoff bound (if they're not already).
Also, Omar's press conference is over. Between him and Nori, I'm so ready for 2014. One more starter and the Royals are playoff bound (if they're not already).
Dominican Power
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This article warms my heart.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
By Wins Above Replacement, Cano was the Yankees' best player in 2013 (7.6 bWAR), and in 2012 (8.5), and also in 2010 (8.2). In fact, over the past four years, Robinson Cano has been the best player in baseball:
But hey they got Brian Roberts and Kelly Johnson!
slightconfuse
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that article is nothing new, Yankess way was never sustainable. Stienbreenner alawys valued wining now than later.
no secret that farm system was a joke. jeter and cano are the only standouts
Also didn twant to commit 10 years to Cano/ probably thought they had no competition.
no secret that farm system was a joke. jeter and cano are the only standouts
Also didn twant to commit 10 years to Cano/ probably thought they had no competition.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
I think its news to Yankees fans who actually think their team is better now than it was last year when they were also irrelevant.
im not very good at picking up sarcasm =(
All is forgiven.
captmcblack
Member
You can only hang your hat on Yankee doldrums for so long.
They'll be back. They always come back.
...unless they become owned entirely by News Corp. Then, maybe it'll be okay if they stay down.
They'll be back. They always come back.
...unless they become owned entirely by News Corp. Then, maybe it'll be okay if they stay down.
Sad, but true, I still would had preffer Cano as aYankee even with that 10 year contract.
Dominican Power
Member
No you fucking don't.
why not? They almost did the same with Elsbury with 7 years, difference is that pitchers will rather pitch to Elsbury than to Cano.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Letting one of the best players in baseball walk when you're the Yankees is a terrible baseball minded decision.
Who is their 2B this year? Who is the long term answer for the next 5 years?
They replaced Cano with an oft injured outfielder with zero power and a pretty overrated catcher.
BFIB
Member
Yankees need to get over their "we don't negotiate until the offseason" mantra. Should have had Cano locked up a few years ago.
After the A-Rod fiasco, it would have been extremely bad for the Yankees to hand out yet another 10 year deal to a player over 30. They're gun-shy, and they have every right to be.
Its an oversight for an overrated GM in Cashman that he has a team that has the riches that every other club is envious of, yet still manages to find himself cornered with mediocre pitching, and major gaps at positions.
I think you're under estimating the influence of their ownership.
BFIB
Member
I'm sure that plays a big part as well.
The Yankees are really handicapped by the few aging players who are still under contract for years to come. Adding a guy who would put them in the same boat in six or seven years (Cano) creates the kind of situation where you get burned twice and look stupid. Thus I think opting out of a ten year contract seems rational if not immediately popular.
I predict the Yankees will strike hard next year and replace Jeter with one of the great SSs who will becoming FA (Hardy, HanRam, others) and probably do the same for 2B just as soon. They need pitching now though so it's all irrelevant until they get some inning-eaters.
I predict the Yankees will strike hard next year and replace Jeter with one of the great SSs who will becoming FA (Hardy, HanRam, others) and probably do the same for 2B just as soon. They need pitching now though so it's all irrelevant until they get some inning-eaters.
That would had made sense if they hadnt given a contract to Elsbury....6 years from now they will be going on the same dilema with him.
And whats the difference in giving Beltran 3 years contract at age 37 and Cano last 3 years of his 10 year contract? At the end of their respective contracts Cano is going to be one year older.
^^ Good point on Ellsbury but the fact is the more time you have a guy signed to be your guy, the more likely it is that something is going to happen, day by day. That's why Ellsbury doesn't make total sense given his history. But Beltran for 3? He has shown nothing but good things for two years and thus three more doesn't seem like a bridge too far.
Basically age is big but you mitigate that by picking up the guy who has lots of potential on a shorter deal. We'll see if Beltran breaks down but I feel like he's much easier to manage going forward than Cano with the DH. And Ells and Gardner can share duties for a long while yet, too.
Basically age is big but you mitigate that by picking up the guy who has lots of potential on a shorter deal. We'll see if Beltran breaks down but I feel like he's much easier to manage going forward than Cano with the DH. And Ells and Gardner can share duties for a long while yet, too.
I cant agree with you point, I dont see that there should be a relation between the time you stay on your team and the durability of the player.
Putting potential Injuries aside, If the yankeess were willing to do Beltran type of contracts or Elsbury type of contract, then the 10 years for Cano was doable. I think the Yankees FO wasnt expecting any team to outbid them, thats what probably happened, it is not the first time its happened to them.
Well all I think I'm trying to say is that the longer the contract, the more often the FO is rolling the dice on health problems.
There are a couple factors that accelerate or decelerate the chance for injury, but making a guy play for a decade seems to be asking for it. Age at the end of your contract is only one thing. Look at Pujols and the albatross that his contract was this last season with his plantar fasciitis. The whole contract becomes much harder to manage (read: get rid of) when your player breaks down with several years to go.
That kind of scenario where you're locked into one player for a decade is just not tenable if you're honest about it. It might rarely be, but not normally.
Problem is that more and more you are going to see these 10 year contracts to superstars in their 31 or 32 years of age. And I see the yankees doing this; for example, if Puig keep up his pace, do you think the yankees wont take him for 10 years?
On Beltran, the real positive I see on this, is that he is a great bargain chip if the yankees see themselves out of post season picture,so they can trade for good prospects.
On Beltran, the real positive I see on this, is that he is a great bargain chip if the yankees see themselves out of post season picture,so they can trade for good prospects.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Phil Hughes, Brett Gardner, Andy Pettitte, Jorge Posada, Mariano Rivera, Brett Gardner, Alfonso Soriano, Berine Williams?
Shit there is more too.. Yankees have always had great homegrown talent...
BFIB
Member
Go home Epstein, your Wrigley.
Dominican Power
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He's playing fantasy baseball.
chicagocubsfan
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BaltimoreLarry
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Losing Roberts to the Yankees sucks. Not that he's got anything left, but I hate to see Orioles "greats" in pinstripes.
2 Years 14 mil for Balfour, I like. Cheaper and better than Jim Johnson.
2 Years 14 mil for Balfour, I like. Cheaper and better than Jim Johnson.
sounds like the cubs don't want to trade him.
Thanks to a broken draft system where signing bonuses were the biggest factor. The worst teams never drafted the best players because they were unsignable. The Yankees did. It had nothing to do with scouting skill, it was about the money. With the Yankees it was always about the money.
Little Green Yoda
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Pettite, Posada, Jeter, Rivera all came up around the same time (which is pretty amazing, admittedly) and it's no coincidence that their late 90s championship runs occurred shortly afterwards. But in the 18 years since then, how many impact players have they developed? Can you count them all on one hand?
I don't really follow AL beisbol so maybe I'm way off base
I thought this was pretty interesting. This company showed off all of the marketing tools and ideas that they had to promote the Oakland A's during the 2004 season:
http://www.brandtank.com/MLB-Oakland-A-s
I remember the campaigns. Great stuff. Too bad they sold the team to lew wolff n john fisher the next year who have been trying to leave ever since.
they trade a lot of them away.
Little Green Yoda
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Didn't realize Mike Lowell was drafted by the Yankees. And I somehow forgot about Melky Cabrera.
Dominican Power
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Y'all also forgot Austin Jackson. We'll see If Mason Williams, Tyler Austin, and Gary Sanchez pan out.