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[Jack Remington]

That 2.23 ERA that Harvey has is just so bad.

2.23 is damn good, but it ain't 1.88.

The "Harvey is better" argument relies entirely on what you think should be happening. It's saying Kershaw should be giving up more runs, based on his line drive %, the fact that his strand rate is much higher than league average, and his K% and BB%.

But that's not what has actually happened, and the day baseball starts giving out its year-end hardware based on what should have happened according to certain formulas is the day it jumps the shark hard.

 

[HarryDemeanor]

Old Man Giambi isn't going down without a fight.

 

[Dmncnby2k9]

Justin Morneau and Barry Zito have cleared waivers and can now be traded.

Pirates should look into Morneau,

 

[vas_a_morir]

Arroyo has been solid this year. If the Reds had a good right-handed bat, who knows where the team could be. Not 3rd in their own damn division.

 

[3N16MA]

2.23 is damn good, but it ain't 1.88.

The "Harvey is better" argument relies entirely on what you think should be happening. It's saying Kershaw should be giving up more runs, based on his line drive %, the fact that his strand rate is much higher than league average, and his K% and BB%.

But that's not what has actually happened, and the day baseball starts giving out its year-end hardware based on what should have happened according to certain formulas is the day it jumps the shark hard.

You're using one stat (ERA) to determine who is the best pitcher instead of taking into consideration various stats. If I was to go by ERA then Locke is pitching better than Sale, Darvish, Sanchez, Wainwright, Scherzer, and more.

 

[The Frankman]

Oh man Chris Perez... geez.

You're using one stat (ERA) to determine who is the best pitcher instead of taking into consideration various stats. If I was to go by ERA then Locke is pitching better than Sale, Darvish, Sanchez, Wainwright, Scherzer, and more.

WHAT? THEY'RE NOT???

 

[Lambtron]

JOE FUCKING MAUER. HNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH.

 

[HarryDemeanor]

How about we just give out co-NL Cy Youngs?

 

[dmag1223]

Are the Cubs the biggest joke in professional sports?

 

[Duane Cunningham]

Well, shit. This isn't a good look heading into the weekend.

 

[Square Triangle]

Tigers finally won.

 

[Jack Remington]

You're using one stat (ERA) to determine who is the best pitcher instead of taking into consideration various stats. If I was to go by ERA then Locke is pitching better than Sale, Darvish, Sanchez, Wainwright, Scherzer, and more.

Locke is one of those outliers you have every season. High WHIP, low strikeouts, somehow hasn't been hit hard.

Anyway, it isn't one stat. rWAR, WHIP, IP, ERA+, and he's 2nd in strikeouts. Furthermore, when one guy's ERA is 1.xx, and no one else is in that range, it's tough to argue that he shouldn't be the Cy Young favorite because he's benefited from "luck".

We don't really evaluate hitters that way, do we? If someone puts up a 1.200 OPS next year with a historically high BABIP, he probably won't get penalized in the MVP voting.

Don't get me wrong: Harvey is a really, really great pitcher. I just think giving out the Cy Young based on stats that attempt to account for luck would open up a pretty messy can of worms.

 

[zychi]

Are the Cubs the biggest joke in professional sports?

Currently, that honor goes to the Cubs Crosstown rivals.

Alternatively, The Spurs for blowing a sure Championship

 

[Askani]

Well, shit. This isn't a good look heading into the weekend.

It couldn't last forever. Hopefully we got the ugly out of our system before Detroit.

Although it was about the worst possible day for us. We lost, Detroit won, Cleveland and Baltimore winning...

Texas and Oakland will probably make our failure complete today.

 

[Dominican Power]

lol @ The Royals losing the series to The Marlins.

 

[3N16MA]

Locke is one of those outliers you have every season. High WHIP, low strikeouts, somehow hasn't been hit hard.

Anyway, it isn't one stat. rWAR, WHIP, IP, ERA+, and he's 2nd in strikeouts. Furthermore, when one guy's ERA is 1.xx, and no one else is in that range, it's tough to argue that he shouldn't be the Cy Young favorite because he's benefited from "luck".

We don't really evaluate hitters that way, do we? If someone puts up a 1.200 OPS next year with a historically high BABIP, he probably won't get penalized in the MVP voting.

Don't get me wrong: Harvey is a really, really great pitcher. I just think giving out the Cy Young based on stats that attempt to account for luck would open up a pretty messy can of worms.

Kershaw will win the Cy Young if everything stays the same. Harvey has a limit placed on him and it will hurt his chances.

 

[Chuck]

this bullpen is shit

it's like they've all agreed to start sucking

edit: so Jim Johnson is coming in. I hope he blows it. I hope he loses us the game again. Anything to help get this motherfucker off our team.

edit2: fuck you MASN. I don't give a flying fuck what blown saves look like for shitty teams. Fuck Jim Johnson. Fuck Buck Showlater for calling him "our closer" Fuck

I hope we lose. They need to learn.

 

[HarryDemeanor]

Stop them Showalters! STOP THEM!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Square Triangle]

Oriloles

 

[Chuck]

and there it is. blown game. Jim Johnson about to lose another one.

 

[Dominican Power]

 

[KidA Seven]

 

[rekameohs]

Jim Johnson

 

[Chuck]

What I hate the most is he cost Tillman 2 wins in a row. Scumbag piece of shit.

 

[Square Triangle]

Tuffy? He has to be southern.

 

[Dominican Power]

You don't have to swing at everything, Adam.

 

[Chuck]

If Buck is really "standing firmly in Johnson's corner" fire him.

 

[rekameohs]

Ziegler the boss.

 

[shwimpy]

HanRam is back in the lineup tonight.

 

[vas_a_morir]

Are the Cubs the biggest joke in professional sports?

It's clear that they are preparing for a Dodger-esque spending spree.

Also, thanks for your help, O's.

 

[Dominican Power]

ALFONSO SORIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANO!!!!!!!!!

 

[The Last Wizard]

ALFONSO SORIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANO!!!!!!!!!

That's how you do it!!!!!!!!!!

 

[3N16MA]

Sori!

 

[weekend_warrior]

Sori-FUCKING GRANDSLAMING-ano!

 

[sangreal]

thank you based Soriano

Sure is nice having some power back in the lineup

 

[HarryDemeanor]

HanRam is back in the lineup tonight.

The king is back.

 

[3N16MA]

Nova time.

 

[Square Triangle]

Dat spitball in ARZ

 

[CygnusXS]

Rain delays the worst. Watching Rays-Mariners because I hate myself.

 

[3N16MA]

Nova looking sharp.

 

[3N16MA]

The only reason I can come up with to why Stewart is starting over Romine is that Nova prefers him.

 

[3N16MA]

Robbie!

 

[Dominican Power]

Heard Cano might sign with The Doyers.

 

[jakncoke]

How can Pirates rip my heart out today? Over the past 4 games we've had

10 run 2 inning by Liriano
that late loss to Rockies
Marte dropping a easy fly that would have led us to a win

 

[3N16MA]

Heard Cano might sign with The Doyers.

If they pay him 8/200 I will laugh.

 

[Dominican Power]

If they pay him 8/200 I will laugh.

They need to pay Kershaw first and then get rid of Ethier.

 

[The Last Wizard]

Soriano coming for yo lunch again!

 

[3N16MA]

Sori! 6 RBI

 

[sangreal]

 

[jakncoke]

Dodgers say fuck your couch 300 million payroll incoming lol