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MMA |OT2| - Thread of Athletes, Fighters, Personalities, and Sports Entertainment

alr1ght

bish gets all the credit :)
i didn't really see any promos for it on the game yesterday, aside from that Jon Jones loves white girls commercial. I do have a tendency to block out Joe Buck from my mind though.
 

TheNatural

My Member!
LOL Cullinary Union going hard after the UFC. Someone on Sherdog pasted this letter he got from them:

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OMG DANA SAID THE F WORD AND THE S WORD! Hilarious how they worded it LOL. Also, Rampage, LOL.
 

alr1ght

bish gets all the credit :)
Chael:
You know, these guys want to talk about God. 'Oh, I want to thank God. I want to thank God.' Listen, I'm a God-fearing man, go to church every Sunday and have since I was a boy. But if I ever found out that God cared one way or another about a borderline illegal fist-fight on Saturday night, I would be so greatly disappointed that it would make rethink my entire belief system.
 

industrian

will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
If it weren't for the fact I know about the Culinary Union and their disputes with the Fertittas/Station Casinos, I would probably think that letter was satire. It boils down to "big bad men say big bad things, think of the children!!11!"
 

ChiTownBuffalo

Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
LOL Cullinary Union going hard after the UFC. Someone on Sherdog pasted this letter he got from them:

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OMG DANA SAID THE F WORD AND THE S WORD! Hilarious how they worded it LOL. Also, Rampage, LOL.

Culinary workers are mae because the Fertittas run a non-union casino. That's why they are for the MMA ban in NYC.
 

Balehead

Member
So either Mo and his manager are lying their asses off or they are some of the dumbest motherfuckers on earth. Dude just walked in a store and asked for something that gives him results and did no checking.
 
Culinary workers are mae because the Fertittas run a non-union casino. That's why they are for the MMA ban in NYC.
Ya, it's so blatantly about not getting paid. Even if you don't know the back story, it's gotta seem so weird that something called the Culinary Union gives a shit about how UFC people present themselves to the public.
 

TheNatural

My Member!
So either Mo and his manager are lying their asses off or they are some of the dumbest motherfuckers on earth. Dude just walked in a store and asked for something that gives him results and did no checking.

Like Bas said about Cyborg's excuses, you want to prove you didn't roid, then go send the shit you drank or supplemented with to the athletic commission to get it tested. It's a load of bullshit, that's why you don't hear anyone following through on it.
 

ChiTownBuffalo

Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
Ya, it's so blatantly about not getting paid. Even if you don't know the back story, it's gotta seem so weird that something called the Culinary Union gives a shit about how UFC people present themselves to the public.

Uh...not really just about getting paid. That National Labor Relations Board ruled against them for violating worker's lawful rights.

http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/66966272?access_key=key-1phn7atr7jqfcepmroii

Workers haven't had a wage increase in 5 years.

Station Casino raised insurance costs without explanation.

Stopped contributing towards 401(k)

Allowed inside investors to transfer over half a billion dollars out of the casino.

Allegation of union busting.

But honestly, the NLRB ruling is pretty bad on its own. No wage increases in 5 years? Dang.
 
Uh...not really just about getting paid. That National Labor Relations Board ruled against them for violating worker's lawful rights.

http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/66966272?access_key=key-1phn7atr7jqfcepmroii

Workers haven't had a wage increase in 5 years.

Station Casino raised insurance costs without explanation.

Stopped contributing towards 401(k)

Allowed inside investors to transfer over half a billion dollars out of the casino.

Allegation of union busting.

But honestly, the NLRB ruling is pretty bad on its own. No wage increases in 5 years? Dang.
Hmm, interesting. They should publicize that then. I'd sympathize with them for that. The anti-UFC campaign just makes them look stupid.
 

AiTM

Banned
Uh...not really just about getting paid. That National Labor Relations Board ruled against them for violating worker's lawful rights.

http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/66966272?access_key=key-1phn7atr7jqfcepmroii

Workers haven't had a wage increase in 5 years.

Station Casino raised insurance costs without explanation.

Stopped contributing towards 401(k)

Allowed inside investors to transfer over half a billion dollars out of the casino.

Allegation of union busting.

But honestly, the NLRB ruling is pretty bad on its own. No wage increases in 5 years? Dang.

Given the economy since 2008, and the hit it had on casinos, this isn't necessary unfair.
 

ChiTownBuffalo

Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
Given the economy since 2008, and the hit it had on casinos, this isn't necessary unfair.

Well, the problem is letting people take money out of the casino. If you are in bankruptcy, and you can't pay your workers an cost of living increase, that is understandable. But not when you let people take over half a billion dollars out of your coffers.
 

ChiTownBuffalo

Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
Hmm, interesting. They should publicize that then. I'd sympathize with them for that. The anti-UFC campaign just makes them look stupid.

No, I agree with you there. I would go with Ferttitas pay ALL their workers poorly. Form kitchen staff to fighters.
 

AiTM

Banned
I think I would like Chael if his fight style wasn't so boring and lame. He's basically a roided up version of Jon Fitch.

His demolishing of Brian Stann was one of the best uses of wrestling and ground work I have seen thus far.

Well, the problem is letting people take money out of the casino. If you are in bankruptcy, and you can't pay your workers an cost of living increase, that is understandable. But not when you let people take over half a billion dollars out of your coffers.

Good point, did those investors put in a similar amount to what they pulled out? Or is it just a profit grab?
 

AiTM

Banned
It was also the first time he finished someone in 13 WEC and UFC fights. If he did more of that, then yeah.

We will find out more this Saturday, but I really believe after he got caught by Anderson in the last round, he decided to go back and work on BJJ. He said something along the lines in an interview about it. And that we saw some evidence of that in the Stann fight, and probably see some more in the Bisping fight.
 

EYEL1NER

Member
Damn if that UnfitForChildren.org site didn't make me feel bad.
At first I was loling when I read their dumb shit about how Zuffa being partly owned by Abu Dhabi/UAE means UFC=Anti Gay Rights.
Then I read the hate mail section. It's only three letters, but how dumb can people be? Fucking play right into their hands......
 

TheNatural

My Member!
Uh...not really just about getting paid. That National Labor Relations Board ruled against them for violating worker's lawful rights.

http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/66966272?access_key=key-1phn7atr7jqfcepmroii

Workers haven't had a wage increase in 5 years.

Station Casino raised insurance costs without explanation.

Stopped contributing towards 401(k)

Allowed inside investors to transfer over half a billion dollars out of the casino.

Allegation of union busting.

But honestly, the NLRB ruling is pretty bad on its own. No wage increases in 5 years? Dang.

And yeah, about this. I have no doubt the Fertita brothers aren't exactly the most up and up people. That old story about how he came to acquire the UFC in the first place by voting against ti being legalized in Nevada can attest to that. No one really knows how rocky the businesses they have are though either. I know Zuffa has a nice chunk of debt trying to get this shit off the ground and they took losses for years before finally getting in the black. They gotta pay the piper sometime for all that money they've borrowed, so all the wage talk seems a little weird when it's not accounting how much debt and loss they took from the start.
 

ChiTownBuffalo

Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
And yeah, about this. I have no doubt the Fertita brothers aren't exactly the most up and up people. That old story about how he came to acquire the UFC in the first place by voting against ti being legalized in Nevada can attest to that. No one really knows how rocky the businesses they have are though either. I know Zuffa has a nice chunk of debt trying to get this shit off the ground and they took losses for years before finally getting in the black. They gotta pay the piper sometime for all that money they've borrowed, so all the wage talk seems a little weird when it's not accounting how much debt and loss they took from the start.

The wage thing I'm ok with. Emerging from bankruptcy and the economy being the way it is. Whatevers.

Blatant union busting, which is what the NLRB ruled on. That's bad. Initimidation of workers who want to organize. Heavy handed. But, Ferttitas gonna Ferttite.
 

TheNatural

My Member!
The wage thing I'm ok with. Emerging from bankruptcy and the economy being the way it is. Whatevers.

Blatant union busting, which is what the NLRB ruled on. That's bad. Initimidation of workers who want to organize. Heavy handed.

Agreed. Not supporting everything they do, just the talk about the UFC and MMA being in big money now though seems ridiculous. Everything is not as it seems. It is funny though Lorenzo trying to play moral/ethic police on SOPA though and expecting sympathy when he's anything but.
 

AiTM

Banned
Agreed. Not supporting everything they do, just the talk about the UFC and MMA being in big money now though seems ridiculous. Everything is not as it seems. It is funny though Lorenzo trying to play moral/ethic police on SOPA though and expecting sympathy when he's anything but.

That cut throat business works both ways. It sucks when they do/support things people hate like SOPA and suppressing workers rights. But it also builds an industry out of nothing, and gives all of us a ton of entertainment, now even more so for free. And not that shitty bad mma stuff you guys always talk about where fighters get paid half the time.
 
Anyone else picking Mr Wonderful? Interesting how over 90% are picking Dunham over The Ring Lentz. On paper I didn't think it looked like a clear pick.
 

TheNatural

My Member!
Anyone else picking Mr Wonderful? Interesting how over 90% are picking Dunham over The Ring Lentz. On paper I didn't think it looked like a clear pick.

I'm going in full upset mode this show, maybe some will catch up on me. Davis and Bisping are getting picked for me, because I can't stand the guys they're fighting. I'll be damned too if Rashad ruins my special night.
 
I'm going in full upset mode this show, maybe some will catch up on me. Davis and Bisping are getting picked for me, because I can't stand the guys they're fighting. I'll be damned too if Rashad ruins my special night.
The thing with picking underdogs on the main card is, what do you boost? I think Oliveira is solid. Lavar Johnson is coming off two losses on Strikeforce, but most of his losses were by subs and Mexitran isn't a sub guy. I guess I will boost those two, but Mexitran by decision.
 

Heel

Member
I will continue to pick main event underdogs until lightning strikes.

On deck: Mr. Wonderful, Conduit and Bendo.

I have a hard time believing all 3 of these guys will lose.
 

Heel

Member
Shocking revelation from Sean McCorkle:

I thought I'd let you guys know that I have heard from 3 different guys who have trained at Death Clutch that (Cole) Konrad is considerably better than Brock Lesnar in every single area of MMA. And that he has way with Lesnar whether grappling or striking.

It might not have shown completely in his fights yet, but that's a scary notion if true considering how short a time he's been training.

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I will continue to pick main event underdogs until lightning strikes.

On deck: Mr. Wonderful, Conduit and Bendo.

I have a hard time believing all 3 of these guys will lose.

Conduit probably has the best chance of winning, but I hope Diaz whoops his ass homie.

The best underdog pick in recent months was Korean Zombie beating Hominick. I called that shit too. Never bet against a solid fighter if the odds are so heavenly stacked against them. I still couldn't believe how stacked the odds were against Machida, even though he lost, he is always a solid bet to throw money on.
 

Sinatar

Official GAF Bottom Feeder
I will continue to pick main event underdogs until lightning strikes.

On deck: Mr. Wonderful, Conduit and Bendo.

I have a hard time believing all 3 of these guys will lose.

Of those 3 I'd say Bendo has the best chance of winning. With the blackzillians record lately I wouldn't be surprised if Rashad lost as well.
 

Chamber

love on your sleeve
According to Derpclutch, Pat Barry is as good a striker as Overeem. Never believe anything that comes out of that camp.

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Look at that mother fucker! God, I hate heavyweights.
 
Seems like a logical match up while he waits to fight the winner of the Thompson/Sapp super fight. I say this assuming Christian Morecraft isn't available, of course.
Where does the winner of the Pro Elite hw grand prix fit in? Odoms was fantastic, how he looked completely gassed from the first minute but still somehow pulled out a sub when the other guy gassed even more. And I bet Minowaman is hungry after that close decision loss.
 
I was laughing when Odoms and Huen were going back and forth with the leg lock attempts. Reminded me of when my brother and I wrestled as kids and I wanted to put him in the Boston crab lock but had no idea how to technically do it so I just loosely mimicked what I saw on tv.

Either way, no matter who wins that it'll be an embarrassment. Martinez has barely moved and won all his fights and Odoms literally can't stop his opponents from taking him down or going to full mount.
 
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