Count Dookkake
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Veidt, you might want to rub one out before the show starts. Also, crank it up to 11.
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roosters93
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I'm one of those people who didn't really like Eyes Wide Shut on the initial viewing. I haven't watched it again yet. :/
Funnily enough (or not), I liked 2001 on my first viewing.
High praise from swoon, my already raised interest has risen again. I was aware of broken embraces when it came out but I'm pretty sure it only got a limited release in Australia and even if it didn't, I wasn't in the habit of going to films by myself back then. I went to a film by myself for the first time just 3 weeks ago and it's only because I'm traveling solo heh.
Funnily enough (or not), I liked 2001 on my first viewing.
Correctamundo. I am in Glasgow atm.Meliorism said:
swoon said:
High praise from swoon, my already raised interest has risen again. I was aware of broken embraces when it came out but I'm pretty sure it only got a limited release in Australia and even if it didn't, I wasn't in the habit of going to films by myself back then. I went to a film by myself for the first time just 3 weeks ago and it's only because I'm traveling solo heh.
My body...is ready.Count Dookkake said:
http://neogaf.net/forum/showthread.php?t=389538Goreomedy said:
From the director of Severance and Black Death, caught this ghost ship horror the other night. It kind of bowled me over. I was prepared for Sci Fi Channel bullshit... I wasn't expecting a smart, tight script and decent production values. I can't really say anything more at risk of spoiling something...
You can watch it for free on Amazon Prime. It is also playing on Showtime this month.
Dedicated thread.
Really a movie worth watching!
Count Dookkake
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NICKNACC said:
The release dates should be a big clue, even if you find his wording vague.
He was not on set.
wormstrangler
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swoon said:
Huh?
roosters93
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You guys missed his earlier post where he said he worked in a cinema aye
Krauser Kat
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Let Me In: Awesome, great remake
You Again: Watch for kristen bell being got damn sexy.
Rise Apes: Way more of a character story of the Caesar (Ape) really awesome movie.
Fright Night: Really fun movie worth seeing in the theater.
You Again: Watch for kristen bell being got damn sexy.
Rise Apes: Way more of a character story of the Caesar (Ape) really awesome movie.
Fright Night: Really fun movie worth seeing in the theater.
Buckethead
Banned
Thor
I want... no no... I demand my 2 hours back.
Chris Hemsworth was hot/ripped/cool as Thor but that's about the extent of my praise for this film.
The action was even boring as shit.
Buckethead
Banned
Yeah it was like 5 movies in one.
Asgard looked like Mickey Mouse vomited on Beetleborgs or something.
I'm not a big comic guy so sue me but the romance between Thor and Jane was just stupid and contrived.
I was completely uninterested in everything that happened on earth.
I liked Thor and his team but that's about it.
Lots of squandered potential.
Asgard looked like Mickey Mouse vomited on Beetleborgs or something.
I'm not a big comic guy so sue me but the romance between Thor and Jane was just stupid and contrived.
I was completely uninterested in everything that happened on earth.
I liked Thor and his team but that's about it.
Lots of squandered potential.
Dries
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Snowman Prophet of Doom said:
afternoon delight said:
Struct09 said:
WorriedCitizen said:
Hear, hear....!! Can't get enough EWS praise.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks said:I lived in Hong Kong for a while and after tracking down most of the Shenmue locations I began looking for film ones and managed to go here:
Where of course most of the film is set. It's just as shitty inside as it looks in the film :lol
Oh yeah... there can never be enough California Dreaming!
Haha, so awesome! Jealous.
FairyD said:
Saw 'A Prophet' last night. Very good movie, will watch again.
What's this about? This still looks intruiging.
roosters93
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Been meaning to see A Prophet and Gomorrah for a long time. I don't know why I mentioned both, I guess they're related in that they are both European crime films.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
This week i watched Yellow Brick Road and The Caller. Both exceeded my expectations. Very good suspense/horror.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
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Small Time Crooks
My second Woody Allen film in as many days and the second I've enjoyed.
Allen is a guilty pleasure for me (I even enjoyed Scoop!) and, very much like Cassavetes, he could make an entire film of people just sitting around talking and I'd likely dig it.
Here there was a plot however and it was somewhat in-depth for one of his films:
Woody is Ray 'The Brain' an ex-con with a genius plan to rob a bank.
He enrols his girlfriend and two acquaintances into his plan of buying a nearby store, as a front, from which he plans to tunnel into the banks vault.....
After the plot-driven slapstick-esque first half, the second half of the film transforms into a satirical look at class divides. The film falters here and in it's earnest enthusiasm becomes simplistic and rather predictable. The rich who are lacking class live in a home where even the walls are golden whilst refined elegance is shown in the form of Hugh Grant at his most British. The humour carries it through though and whilst what the film has to say isn't perhaps as deep or profound as intended, it's appreciated as the lynchpin to some truly funny moments, including Tracey Ullman attempting to broaden her vocabulary by memorising the dictionary, only getting as far as the A's and then using as many A words as possible at inopportune moments and also Allen himself attempting to break into a safe whilst being constantly interrupted at a party.
My second Woody Allen film in as many days and the second I've enjoyed.
Allen is a guilty pleasure for me (I even enjoyed Scoop!) and, very much like Cassavetes, he could make an entire film of people just sitting around talking and I'd likely dig it.
Here there was a plot however and it was somewhat in-depth for one of his films:
Woody is Ray 'The Brain' an ex-con with a genius plan to rob a bank.
He enrols his girlfriend and two acquaintances into his plan of buying a nearby store, as a front, from which he plans to tunnel into the banks vault.....
After the plot-driven slapstick-esque first half, the second half of the film transforms into a satirical look at class divides. The film falters here and in it's earnest enthusiasm becomes simplistic and rather predictable. The rich who are lacking class live in a home where even the walls are golden whilst refined elegance is shown in the form of Hugh Grant at his most British. The humour carries it through though and whilst what the film has to say isn't perhaps as deep or profound as intended, it's appreciated as the lynchpin to some truly funny moments, including Tracey Ullman attempting to broaden her vocabulary by memorising the dictionary, only getting as far as the A's and then using as many A words as possible at inopportune moments and also Allen himself attempting to break into a safe whilst being constantly interrupted at a party.
AgentChris
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This and A Clockwork Orange are the only two Kubrick films I need to see. I still think 2001 is god tier.nskinnear said:
A Human Becoming
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Can someone explain to me the chain of events in Fresh? Was Michael making up shit or did he just play his cards right?
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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Goreomedy said:
What was childish about it? I'd say it's one of the more mature takes on the nature of jealousy in relationships I've seen, and that's not to mention how well the film captures a dreamlike reality and the nature of the masculine mind as it relates to sex. It IS entertainment for adults, emphatically so; or, perhaps more specifically, it's entertainment for adult art lovers.
Also, I'd just like to say that I DON'T think that Cruise can act but that Eyes Wide Shut is the exception because he was truly perfect for the character.
wormstrangler
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Watched Easy A twice over the last two nights - once by myself then I got my housemate in to the next night. I also saw it at the cinemas. Quite a good flick and Emma Stone is everything most guys look for of course.
Its put me on to a teen drama kick so I'm going to watch the Breakfast Club tonight and Sixteen Candles shortly. Both of which I've never seen.
Question about Easy A - is the dad (her parents rock) smoking a joint here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCiPzlQgmhE
They seem like parents who would. It could just be hand rolled cig but they don't strike me as smokers.
Its put me on to a teen drama kick so I'm going to watch the Breakfast Club tonight and Sixteen Candles shortly. Both of which I've never seen.
Question about Easy A - is the dad (her parents rock) smoking a joint here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCiPzlQgmhE
They seem like parents who would. It could just be hand rolled cig but they don't strike me as smokers.
TheKaeptain
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Since I don't know Emma Stone, I can't say if she is anything I would want in a woman.
TheKaeptain
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Decado said:
Do you know which version you watched? The regular version has huge pacing issues. I've heard that the director's cut got rid of a bunch of useless baggage.
I thought that at first too, but if you notice the childish complaint is made right after noting that the film was supposed to be "Entertainment for adults". He's condemning the entire film for being dull and childish, not just the particular scene that was censored. I can buy the complaints of being dull (even if the pace was fine for me), but the childish remark is just stupid.icarus-daedelus said:
My only real complaint with the film is the sequences with Kidman. The joint smoking scene was dreadful, and her acting was just awful throughout the film. And while I'm usually not a huge fan of Cruise, I thought that Kubrick got one of the best performances out of him in his career. Not that he had to extend himself or anything, but he got across a lot of subtle machinations of the male psyche with small looks, glances, and restrained acting overall.
Eyes Wide Shut is criminally underrated and hated on.
ThisWreckage
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Satyamdas said:
I think she was serviceable. I've always found it funny that she's generally the one praised for her acting in that film while Cruise is always ignored. I don't know if it has to do with the nudity or what. The pot smoking scene was perhaps the most important scene in the film because the revelations that Dr. Bill hears sends him on his odyssey.
Personally it's my favorite Kubrick film. I think the lighting is astonishing. It's also a film full of small details and I notice something different every time I watch it. There's some jet black humor that runs throughout the movie as well. Ever notice how Dr. Bill (his last name is a reference on money) has an engaged woman, a gay desk clerk, a prostitute, and an underage girl all throwing themselves at him yet he never actually screws anyone? Not to mention that he finds himself in the middle of an orgy and doesn't even get laid there either?
Also, Kubrick's casting of Kidman and Cruise was brilliant because their personal lives mirror the characters in the film. At the time, they were having a rocky marriage and ended up divorcing. Dr. Bill is hit on by a gay desk clerk and called a homophobic slur or two by a group of college kids. Believe me, Kubrick definitely had Cruise's rumored closeted homosexual lifestyle in his mind while filming portions of the movie. Cruise was also cast because of his status as a sex symbol. It definitely works better than Kubrick's original idea of casting STEVE MARTIN.
Here's a great article on EWS if anyone is interested:
http://mutinycompany.com/EWS.html
Eyes Wide Shut viewed like an acting exercise between two first-year drama students.
At the end of the film, when this couple comes back together, what did they really learn, or hell, risk? Neither became truly involved with their fantasies. It was a copout. I wanted to see this happy Jewish couple's monogamy destroyed by temptation, and then having to deal with the consequence of their actions. THAT is the film they sold us in trailers. What did we get? A Hardy Boy Goes to the Playboy Mansion Murder Mystery where he is reactive for two and a half fucking hours.
At the end of the film, when this couple comes back together, what did they really learn, or hell, risk? Neither became truly involved with their fantasies. It was a copout. I wanted to see this happy Jewish couple's monogamy destroyed by temptation, and then having to deal with the consequence of their actions. THAT is the film they sold us in trailers. What did we get? A Hardy Boy Goes to the Playboy Mansion Murder Mystery where he is reactive for two and a half fucking hours.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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Goreomedy said:
Yeah... you kinda didn't get the point of the film Kubrick actually made and just judged it against the movie that you wanted to see. The whole thing IS a fantasy, a descent into a dream-like hell; the relationship is strained, but the end leaves one with hope that they can repair the relationship and come out stronger in the long run. This is a case where an ending that is somewhat ambiguous leaning toward "happy" (real happiness, the kind that will take work but will also be rewarding in its own way) is actually the better, more psychologically satisfying and realistic ending. The change that you're suggesting would have taken away pretty much everything that makes this movie unique and Kubrickian in the first place and turned it into run-of-the-mill Hollywood psychological drama. Also, I thought Kidman was quite good in Eyes Wide Shut, actually; the way that she says, "You MEN" sent chills down my spine and still does in recall.
Anyway...
The Best Years of Our Lives (William Wyler, 1946)
This was sort of a pleasant surprise at first, but it does get worse as it goes on. I was extremely pleased to see how naturalistic and subdued the acting actually was, especially for the time; I had actually watched Fredric March in the Mamoulian Jekyll and Hyde earlier today, and it was so interesting to see the difference between his hammy, warmed-over stage acting of the early talkies transform into a subtle, realistic style by the time this picture rolls around. You rarely get such a direct and striking comparison, and it was actually incredibly satisfying. The movie is believable and realistic, especially in the way that it avoids melodrama where other movies of the time would have dove right into it (except in the terribly over-the-top music score).
However, as the movie goes along, the sense starts to creep in that there's just something... missing, something not quite right, something unsatisfying. What it is, I think, is that while the action that's happening IS realistic, the characters in this movie just don't have a hell of a lot of personality. The situations are right in terms of the plotting, but there's never quite that sense that the people involved in them have that extra something, that "more" that distinguishes a great character from a great character concept. You see the surface of the characters, but the movie never really plunges into their interiors, into what makes THESE people distinct and worthy of our consideration over any other group of three returning soldiers. That's not to say that there aren't some good moments - there are - but it felt like there were highs that this movie could have hit that it didn't. For example, the movie tries to go for something much more realistic than what was typically offered in that time, yet there's still a rather forced and too-fast romance shoehorned in between Dana Andrews and Teresa Wright instead of something that could perhaps have played out over more time and been more realistically-realized. At least, the movie could have given us the "what if" at the end instead of the rather safe choice of having the couple get together.
Or, as another example, take the scene where Dana Andrews is walking in the plane scrapyard. While it is a bit heavy-handed to show a down-and-out airman walking among the scraps of planes, there's enough power in the fact that that was seemingly an actual plane yard that he was walking in that the triteness of the metaphor is somewhat redeemed by the realization of it, but when he actually gets in the plane and the patriotic music starts playing while the camera zooms in on the gutted engines, it just lost me completely in that moment and went WAY over-the-top. That's kinda what I mean: good ideas, some good execution, but missed opportunities to take those ideas into the stratosphere and really make something special, something that could have found that real post-War "moment" instead of merely being a better-than-average realization of the Production Code Hollywood drama involving people that are either just a little too good (Teresa Wright's character) or a little too flawed (Dana Andrews' shallow wife) to be quite believable. It's a movie that misses its mark, but there are enough good moments to recommend it, if only as a curiosity of cinema right after the war.
Snowman Prophet of Doom said:
No, Kubrick-approved ads, and what I had learned of the film while following 400 days of production, prepared me for an experience with more psychological depth and daring.
And shame on you for suggesting character-driven action and a more compelling conflict would have betrayed what is "Kubrickian".
Secks4Food
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I saw Apollo 18 the other night...it really needed to choose between being a full on thriller or full on conspiracy story. It tries to be both and succeeds as neither. Also, I won't spoil the sinister shit that they find on the moon (I guess the trailers are meant to make you guess whatever it is)...anyway it's pretty disappointing, unrealistic, and kind of silly. It just wasn't really a satisfying movie all around, and their stupid viral conspiracy site they plug at the beginning and end just detracts from the whole experience.
Buckethead
Banned
Emma Stone's shtick is boring as hell also... Eyes Wide Shut |OT|?
I'm going to go watch The Fall brb
I'm going to go watch The Fall brb
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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Goreomedy said:
I freely admit that the advertising for that movie was terrible. But the movie itself was great, probably one of Kubrick's best (though he's got a quintet of at least five unbelievably great movies, so hey); it's not to be blamed for misleading advertising.
To say that the action is not character-driven is simply not true, and as for compelling? There's simply not another movie like Eyes Wide Shut in pretty much any facet, and what it does it does WELL. The movie that Kubrick made was not about a relationship breaking up or even about the relationship itself but about the feelings and cracks within the relationship, about those things that don't really get talked about. The characters DO have plenty of conflict with one another, but resolving that conflict via a dreamlike descent into some sort of masculine hell is far more interesting and creative than the movie that I think you're asking for and is far more in line with Kubrick's unexpected, nonpareil sense of vision. If the movie had been what I think you're asking it to have been, it would have been better-received initially but would have also more quickly been forgotten. There are many movies about betrayal in relationships; there are very few movies about the desire for betrayal, about how it is that we deal with and overcome those feelings, and the fact that Kubrick was able to identify that distinction and bend it into such an interesting cinematic experience is what makes him one of the great minds of the cinema.
Count Dookkake
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You're in luck.
VGvsFG is much better than MACHINE GIRL.
VGvsFG is much better than MACHINE GIRL.
If you like this movie then I suggest you watchGoreomedy said:
From the director of Severance and Black Death, caught this ghost ship horror the other night. It kind of bowled me over. I was prepared for Sci Fi Channel bullshit... I wasn't expecting a smart, tight script and decent production values. I can't really say anything more at risk of spoiling something...
You can watch it for free on Amazon Prime. It is also playing on Showtime this month.
Timecrimes
TheKaeptain
Banned
Confessions is by Tetsuya Nakashima not Joon-ho Bong.
Oh, you meant Matsuko...
Oh, you meant Matsuko...
Do the Right Thing- The best Spike Lee Joint (well this or 25th Hour) I've seen thus far. Features a great ensemble performance, and a well written script. A powerful look at racial tensions.
The ending was great. Capping it off with quotes from MLK and Malcom X was fantastic
And Now for Something Completely Different - Liked it, but not everything. The humor was kinda hit and miss, but I liked most of the bizarre and random Monty Python humor. 6.5
The Wanderers - It's like the light-version of The Warriors, dipped in rock and roll music and at times I expected it to turn into a musical. But it didn't and turned out to be a pretty decent coming of age story. 7.0
Bridesmaids - It's a Kristen Wiig one-woman-show, so you have to like her mumbling kind of humor to appreciate this film because the movie itself is basically The Hangover with (and for?) women. While it did get a couple of laughs out of me, I thought the movie was a mess. 5.0
The Wanderers - It's like the light-version of The Warriors, dipped in rock and roll music and at times I expected it to turn into a musical. But it didn't and turned out to be a pretty decent coming of age story. 7.0
Bridesmaids - It's a Kristen Wiig one-woman-show, so you have to like her mumbling kind of humor to appreciate this film because the movie itself is basically The Hangover with (and for?) women. While it did get a couple of laughs out of me, I thought the movie was a mess. 5.0
Yeah I understand why Kubrick picked Cruise and Kidman, but in spite of them being a real couple their relationship never felt genuine on the screen. I don't know if it was a result of Kubrick sequestering them for 70 takes of a 10 minute scene, or if Kidman isn't that good of an actress, or if Kubrick just picked a lot of bad takes to include in the film, but Kidman and Cruise's interactions just never resonated with me at all. I didn't think her character was written particularly well, either, and I'm talking strictly about her dialogue here, but I have the feeling another actress may have done the character more justice. It's one of those things where I can't put my finger directly on it, but Kidman's performance is just totally 'off' for me. Luckily the film didn't suffer for it as there was so much more going on.ThisWreckage said:
Also, thanks for the article I will check it out. Always like to read anything related to Kubrick.
Their marriage *was* ruined by temptation, and it didn't even take acting on that temptation to do it! Condemning the film because you didn't get to see some sex fantasy acted out is about the lamest criticism of EWS I've ever seen, and I've seen some doozies.Goreomedy said:
Seems like the film flew right over your head. The whole point is that just the thought of infidelity by a partner can be enough to paralyze a relationship or ruin it beyond repair. Did you really get to the end and think "Awww man, they are shopping together all happy and shit! What a copout!"? Because if you did you really missed the message completely. The illusion of the happy fulfilled marriage that Cruise thought he was in is gone, crushed, and he now views Kidman with contempt and not with puppy dog affection any more. All this because she revealed a fleeting random fantasy about wanting to fuck a stranger. Having her actually fuck a strange guy, or having Cruise go out and fuck a whore or a random woman in retaliation does what for the narrative of the film? Not a goddamn thing. If anything it cheapens the theme Kubrick is exploring.
At the end of the film he doesn't love her like he did in the beginning, if at all. What she revealed to him was enough to cripple their marriage. Cracks the very foundation of it, and she didn't even fuck another guy. That is much more powerful than having her actually fuck some strange guy and having Cruise struggle with that. And by leaving them together in the end we are forced to wonder about their future. We see that they appear outwardly happy, but we've also seen the spirit of the marriage destroyed from the inside so we know it's all a facade now and probably just a matter of time before they divorce. Or maybe they never divorce and they just grow further apart in a loveless marriage. Or maybe they somehow recapture their love in time. All this ambiguity from nothing more than a revealed secret about desiring to fuck a stranger. And shoehorning in a sex scene does nothing to add to that ambiguity, it only would detract from it. Kubrick knew what he was doing.
The movie you wanted to see would have sucked.
TheKaeptain
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It's alright. You either hate it or love it. I haven't since it was released on DVD.overcast said:
WorriedCitizen
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The only thing that i don't like about Eyes Wide Shut is that my bluray is cropped to the cinema format. I prefer the 4:3 version in which it was shot.
I really like this film personally but i can see where your crits come from. The whole thing feels a bit like an extra long episode of an HBO drama to me which is remarkable considering when it was done. But this is also where the downside comes from. Because they basicaly cramped into 3 hours what could have worked extremely well as a much longer running TV show the character development suffers and you only get superficial glimpses at things that could have been really fleshed out.
Snowman Prophet of Doom said:
I really like this film personally but i can see where your crits come from. The whole thing feels a bit like an extra long episode of an HBO drama to me which is remarkable considering when it was done. But this is also where the downside comes from. Because they basicaly cramped into 3 hours what could have worked extremely well as a much longer running TV show the character development suffers and you only get superficial glimpses at things that could have been really fleshed out.
TheKaeptain
Banned
Watched
Megamind***
Really fun and makes fun of everything I hate about superhero movies.
Rio*
Bird can't fly. That's about it.
Straw Dogs(1971)****
I don't remember the
scene being that weird. Well the beginning of that scene.
Megamind***
Really fun and makes fun of everything I hate about superhero movies.
Rio*
Bird can't fly. That's about it.
Straw Dogs(1971)****
I don't remember the
rape
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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Satyamdas: I agree with you, but I actually DO think that the ambiguous ending at least leans toward happy; I never got a sense that the relationship was possibly destroyed, just rocked.
WorriedCitizen said:
yea i can see snowman's point, but i guess it doesn't bother me. also it wasn't wyler's choice to have that awful music in the graveyard scene, but i guess you can't win them all.
the scene in the bar when they are playing the piano is the best scene ever also.
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