Multiple reports of joycon connectivity issues in Switch previews

Ah, man. Hope this can be fixed with a firmware issue. I wanna play Zelda with the joy cons separate and not housed into the grip that comes with the Switch.
 
UncleSporky said:
Here's one theory: it could be intentional.

What's Nintendo hurriedly doing before launch? Final testing of games on retail units. Lots of testing. The kind of testing where it might be useful to have joycons that last 30 or 40 hours as opposed to 20.

They're also doing previews on the TV circuit, to the press, at various events. Could be useful to have longer-lasting joycons when the Switch is being heavily played, and the environment is controlled so that people can be kept nearer to the dock.

If they knew it was going to be fixed in the day one update anyway they could've just left it in that state.

Now all we need is for a press person to totally charge their joycon, and totally drain their joycon, and see how long it lasts. If it's longer than the advertised 20 hours then we might have some indication.
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There's crazy talk and then there's this.
 
The only reason I can see Nintendo not making a statement yet is that they can find a solution before they talk about it. So that they can come out and give a positive statement.

A bad reason, but the only one I can think of.
 
Skittzo0413 said:
Basically the theory is that some of the electronics present in games journalists' offices (like recording equipment, other consoles, PCs) could be causing some wireless interference which is greatly exacerbated when you obstruct the joycon or move too far away.
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That's a pretty stupid theory since most regular people are going to have very similar devices and lots of wireless interference in their homes as well.
 
Skittzo0413 said:
Agreed, this type of poor/lack of communication is by far the most frustrating thing about this company to me.
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Sadly, I find it par for the course these days. Be it Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft, I always find myself going to the community first for some level of clarification.
 
TheGreatMightyPoo said:
Why would you want a statement that they know it's an issue???
As obviously they do.
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I think they should release a statement to clarify a few things:

1. That they are aware of it.
2. Whether or not they know the root of the issue
3. Whether it affects every unit or just some
4. How long they have known about the issue
5. Timetable on a fix

None of those things require the issue to be fixed immediately. It's just facts they can lay out upfront to at least acknowledge the problem to consumers.
 
guek said:
Hey MHWilliams, ol' buddy ol' pal, can you reproduce the problem with the charging grip?
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Just tried with free hand and the normal Grip.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=230910566&postcount=552

Alright.

So, I think there might be a signal and a hardware issue.

My Joy-Cons are usable in a direct line of sight to my maximum available space (16 ft). I also didn't get any issues with covering the Joy-Con or putting it behind my back until around 10 feet. Tried putting a chair in front, no problems.

If I could move my router, I'd test other signal interference, but right now that's not possible.

If it was purely signal, I'd probably have the same drop off as others. Perhaps I haven't run into the issue because I lucked out.
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serenewarfare said:
The only reason I can see Nintendo not making a statement yet is that they can find a solution before they talk about it. So that they can come out and give a positive statement.

A bad reason, but the only one I can think of.
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That's not a bad reason. I mean, we all know Nintendo is aware of this by now. I'd rather them address this publicly when they actually know what's going on.
 
Bluth54 said:
That's a pretty stupid theory since most regular people are going to have very similar devices and lots of wireless interference in their homes as well.
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While stupid might be harsh you're very right. Anyone living in an apartment complex or urban area is going to have similar interference, if not worse
 
theonerayman said:
Now I have no sodding idea what to think. Is it possible that some of the joycons have better BT parts than others?
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No.* These things are manufactured in huge batches. There is 0% chance for that at this point from a design perspective.

*Unless a manufacturer fucked up very badly and some of their batches are "better" than others... Which is a death knell for a manufacturer and very unlikely here.
 
Speely said:
No.* These things are manufactured in huge batches. There is 0% chance for that at this point from a design perspective.

*Unless a manufacturer fucked up very badly and some of their batches are "better" than others... Which is a death knell for a manufacturer and very unlikely here.
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RRoD comes to mind.
 
Looking over this it reminds me of when I had more 2.4ghz wireless in my house. It interferes with Bluetooth as it operates on 2.4 frequencies too. Routers set to auto channel seem to really screw with Bluetooth setting any 2.4 wireless to a specific channel 1,6,11 will most certainly help with such interference from my experience. Having a wireless router next to gaming systems like Wii U also mess with the game pad range. PS3 and PS4 controllers once you set up a set channel for 2.4 when reset through the pin hole rest once that change was made also worked better.

Just my experience with many wireless devices in a close area and has worked 100% in my usage.


Another thing is led lighting in a home those SOB's generate EM fields like crazy and will wreck your wireless reliability.
 
theonerayman said:
Hmmm this is a good thought actually. It's very very possible.
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This is the best explanation assuming it's not a hardware issue that I can thing of as to why it'd be so inconsistent. Nintendo found ways to improve joycon functionality and made sure their launch units had the updated firmware. But the press units were packaged earlier and therefore their joycons can't be updated until the day 1 update.

All speculation of course.
 
I was about to freak out, but if it does not affect tabletop/handheld mode and only become a trouble at like 8 feet, this really doesn't affect me.
 
Im starting to think "pre order cancelled" has evolved into a figure of speech and most people who say it aren't actually cancelling their pre order
 
The logic in this thread:

"A handful of Switch users are reporting problems with their left JoyCon"
This is unacceptable, they need to get out in front of this and promise a day one patch or warranty recall or I'm cancelling my pre-order!

"A handful of reports suggest Nintendo are aware of the issue and plan to patch it day one"
I don't believe it, I need a consensus, I'm cancelling my pre-order.
 
ngower said:
The logic in this thread:

"A handful of Switch users are reporting problems with their left JoyCon"
This is unacceptable, they need to get out in front of this and promise a day one patch or warranty recall or I'm cancelling my pre-order!

"A handful of reports suggest Nintendo are aware of the issue and plan to patch it day one"
I don't believe it, I need a consensus, I'm cancelling my pre-order.
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A handful of reports? Link me to a report that Nintendo will patch day one, please.
 
The reality is no one is cancelling their preorders over this one issue. Some people just want to bring attention to themselves. Like when you got two chocolate milks at lunch and hoped the lunchlady would crack a joke about it
 
Would never cancel my pre-order. I will just use it in handheld mode all the time until it is fixed. I can see why others would though.
 
ngower said:
The logic in this thread:

"A handful of Switch users are reporting problems with their left JoyCon"
This is unacceptable, they need to get out in front of this and promise a day one patch or warranty recall or I'm cancelling my pre-order!

"A handful of reports suggest Nintendo are aware of the issue and plan to patch it day one"
I don't believe it, I need a consensus, I'm cancelling my pre-order.
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We have evidence that there is a problem with the joycons.

We don't have evidence that Nintendo is doing anything about it.
 
ngower said:
The logic in this thread:

"A handful of Switch users are reporting problems with their left JoyCon"
This is unacceptable, they need to get out in front of this and promise a day one patch or warranty recall or I'm cancelling my pre-order!

"A handful of reports suggest Nintendo are aware of the issue and plan to patch it day one"
I don't believe it, I need a consensus, I'm cancelling my pre-order.
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I think that's just one guy on twitter who has no credibility. If it's a hardware issue, then it's too late. Recall or ignore is their only option.

Let's hope it's a software bug.
 
daffy said:
The reality is no one is cancelling their preorders over this one issue. Some people just want to bring attention to themselves. Like when you got two chocolate milks at lunch and hoped the lunchlady would crack a joke about it
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Guess you didn't see the guy in one of these threads where he was practically bragging about it. Even showed a screenshot of his phone.

It was a Neon too, RIP in peace.
 
Shaanyboi said:
We have evidence that there is a problem with the joycons.

We don't have evidence that Nintendo is doing anything about it.
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This. What is some dude's word worth when all of these more reputable gaming media outlets have the device in hand, and can easily report the same thing if Nintendo wanted to release a statement??
 
JoeyJungle said:
Iiirc that was a design defect and not a manufacturing defect. The material of part of the design warped over time due to poor heat management iirc.
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Sure. But to the previous point, it was a mass produced device with differing results. Though to be fair, given enough time, every 360 of that model would probably have eventually red-ringed.
 
lutheran said:
Would never cancel my pre-order. I will just use it in handheld mode all the time until it is fixed. I can see why others would though.
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That's where I'm at with all of this too. I can totally see why people would be put off enough by this, but...Maybe I'm just not as fickle with my purchases? Especially going through what I have with console launches, this is about in line with everything.

I do a lot of research and personal balancing before I decide to purchase...Well, anything. Once I've decided, I set my expectations and hope for the best.

Back on topic, my guess is the only form of press release you'll get about this is in the update notes saying it's been corrected.
 
ngower said:
The logic in this thread:

"A handful of Switch users are reporting problems with their left JoyCon"
This is unacceptable, they need to get out in front of this and promise a day one patch or warranty recall or I'm cancelling my pre-order!

"A handful of reports suggest Nintendo are aware of the issue and plan to patch it day one"
I don't believe it, I need a consensus, I'm cancelling my pre-order.
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So we're comparing game journalists to one random dude on twitter? Yeah I'll rather trust the games journalist right now, thank you very much.
 
Is it possible for the 'previewer' to post the OS version of their Switch? For those who: has a problem and not have a problem?

And also any difference on the ones on OS version / joycon / Switch manufacturing batch between those who have problems and not? (so far, no one from Europe side is mentioning that they've problem with the Joycon? )
 
komorebi said:
Guess you didn't see the guy in one of these threads where he was practically bragging about it. Even showed a screenshot of his phone.

It was a Neon too, RIP in peace.
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Wow, what a rebel. Cancelling his preorder like he just don't care. Then when it gets fixed and he can't get stock, he'll make a thread complaining that they should have put out a statement so he wouldn't cancel his preorder. S-ing my damn H.
 
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