Multiple reports of joycon connectivity issues in Switch previews

I mean, if it comes to be March 1st and we still haven't heard anything I'll be much more worried and understanding of people canceling preorders. But so far it hasn't even been a day since this issue was first reported, so I'm willing to give Nintendo a bit of time to figure out their response. It's a bit of an overreaction to make a decision like canceling a pre-order before even hearing what the cause of this is and how it may be remedied.

At the end of the day, let people cancel their pre-orders prematurely if they want to (if they even actually had one), because that's just more stock for the rest of us who couldn't get a pre-order in.
 
At the end of the day, let people cancel their pre-orders prematurely if they want to (if they even actually had one), because that's just more stock for the rest of us who couldn't get a pre-order in.

Well yeah people can do whatever the hell they want but I can still call it out as an overreaction.

But maybe that's me being selfish since I already have my pre-order.
 
Here's one theory: it could be intentional.

What's Nintendo hurriedly doing before launch? Final testing of games on retail units. Lots of testing. The kind of testing where it might be useful to have joycons that last 30 or 40 hours as opposed to 20.

They're also doing previews on the TV circuit, to the press, at various events. Could be useful to have longer-lasting joycons when the Switch is being heavily played, and the environment is controlled so that people can be kept nearer to the dock.

If they knew it was going to be fixed in the day one update anyway they could've just left it in that state.

Now all we need is for a press person to totally charge their joycon, and totally drain their joycon, and see how long it lasts. If it's longer than the advertised 20 hours then we might have some indication.

I can appreciate the creative thinking but the bad far outweighs the good in such a scenario.
 
Well yeah people can do whatever the hell they want but I can still call it out as an overreaction.

But maybe that's me being selfish since I already have my pre-order.
Yeah...might as well let people talk I guess lol. If Stealth is right Nintendo will have it fixed. Nintendo should come out and just say it themselves though.
 
At the end of the day, let people cancel their pre-orders prematurely if they want to (if they even actually had one), because that's just more stock for the rest of us who couldn't get a pre-order in.

Well yeah people can do whatever the hell they want but I can still call it out as an overreaction.

But maybe that's me being selfish since I already have my pre-order.

You guys really are the perfect fans Nintendo love. Throw anything at you and you'll love it :D
 
While you're right that it won't have the same level of negative effect as people having bricked consoles, you underestimate how much it could potentially cost Nintendo if they have to recall and replace every launch version joy-con. That is not an easy or cheap task. In that regard it very much IS similar to the RROD issue in that they're going to be eating the cost of fixing a hardware issue that should have been caught and fixed while still in production.

They could opt to not recall and instead just replace though. It's not as if these JoyCon are completely unusable or unreliable in a majority of situations.

Like set up a system where you enter your console serial number on Nintendo's website and they check you off a list and ship you a new and improved set of JoyCon.

Still not cheap, as they lose out on sales, but not as expensive as a recall.
 
Yeah...might as well let people talk I guess lol. If Stealth is right Nintendo will have it fixed. Nintendo should come out and just say it themselves though.

Something as small as making a statement acknowledging the issue and their promise to resolve would make all the difference in the world.
 
I have to imagine this is either a glitch or something they can patch with a firmware update (considering the tech in the Joycons).
 
Something as small as making a statement acknowledging the issue and their promise to resolve would make all the difference in the world.
I know. Maybe Nintendo wants to prepare a proper statement and it took them the whole day to get it figured out.

They could've said "we're looking into it". I'm hoping tomorrow they say something or atleast tell IGN or one of the big media guys everything will be fine.
 
You guys really are the perfect fans Nintendo love. Throw anything at you and you'll love it :D

...did you miss the part where I said if this is not resolved by March 1st I'll start to get very worried?

Of course they knew about it. GameXplain replicated the issue incredibly quickly. There's no way this is some revelation to Nintendo.

Not necessarily, we still don't know if this happens on every unit.
 
They could opt to not recall and instead just replace though. It's not as if these JoyCon are completely unusable or unreliable in a majority of situations.

Like set up a system where you enter your console serial number on Nintendo's website and they check you off a list and ship you a new and improved set of JoyCon.

Still not cheap, as they lose out on sales, but not as expensive as a recall.

replace and recall would be best, since nintendo could probably easily fix the joy cons with the weak signal and sell them as refurbished
 
replace and recall would be best, since nintendo could probably easily fix the joy cons with the weak signal and sell them as refurbished

If the problem is the BT radio, they'd have to do so much work to fix the current JoyCon that I'm not sure it'd be worth it to them as opposed to just eating the cost and giving away new ones.
 
I know. Maybe Nintendo wants to prepare a proper statement and it took them the whole day to get it figured out.

They could've said "we're looking into it". I'm hoping tomorrow they say something or atleast tell IGN or one of the big media guys everything will be fine.

Even a "we're looking into it" would be amazingly helpful. But every news outlet that says something before Nintendo does inadvertently makes Nintendo slow to react.

Maybe they dont know what to say yet.

Just let us know you know. That's really all it takes. It will do much to build confidence in the userbase.
 
You know who you're replying to.

Actually I turned off avatars in fear of Zelda spoilers so I didn't realize it at first.


Anyway, some confirmation on whether or not this is affecting all of the review units would greatly help us understand what's going on.

Even a "we're looking into it" would be amazingly helpful. But every news outlet that says something before Nintendo does inadvertently makes Nintendo slow to react.

Just let us know you know. That's really all it takes. It will do much to build confidence in the userbase.

If there's one thing that Nintendo is consistently horrible at, it's messaging and PR.
 
The good thing for me personally is that my distance to the console will be pretty short, so that Jeff Gerstmann tweet about his experience assures me I most likely won't have an issue with it.

Still an incredibly shitty issue.
 
I know. Maybe Nintendo wants to prepare a proper statement and it took them the whole day to get it figured out.

They could've said "we're looking into it". I'm hoping tomorrow they say something or atleast tell IGN or one of the big media guys everything will be fine.

It's possible that in matters of hardware and software, NoA can't really say much without guidance from NCL. At least, that's what I would guess. If they were willing to release a statement on the stolen Switchs over the weekend, I wouldn't be surprised if they do the same for this.
 
Agreed. Out of millions of non defective units it's just bad luck the press got a majority of the defective ones.
I mean it's actually good news for consumers because there's less defective ones out there!

Basically the theory is that some of the electronics present in games journalists' offices (like recording equipment, other consoles, PCs) could be causing some wireless interference which is greatly exacerbated when you obstruct the joycon or move too far away.
 
I sincerely believe an issue like this would have been caught in QA were it widespread. That means one of two things:

1. This is not affecting every unit
2. There is an idea room layout to allow proper performance

Both of these scenarios have their proper solution so at the very least, we can believe no one will be left permanently with bad controls.
 
When should we expect a press statement considering we're already hearing it'll be fixes in a timely manner?

Ideally, Nintendo would only want to release one statement on this. So they are going to wait until they know exactly what they are dealing with. I would guess that we will hear something tomorrow afternoon-ish.
 
I sincerely believe an issue like this would have been caught in QA were it widespread. That means one of two things:

1. This is not affecting every unit
2. There is an idea room layout to allow proper performance

Both of these scenarios have their proper solution so at the very least, we can believe no one will be left permanently with bad controls.

Previews have been generally positive. That would not be possible if it were as widespread as some on gaf would like to believe.
 
It's possible that in matters of hardware and software, NoA can't really say much without guidance from NCL. At least, that's what I would guess. If they were willing to release a statement on the stolen Switchs over the weekend, I wouldn't be surprised if they do the same for this.
I was thinking in my head they could be waiting for NCL.
 
I know. Maybe Nintendo wants to prepare a proper statement and it took them the whole day to get it figured out.

They could've said "we're looking into it". I'm hoping tomorrow they say something or atleast tell IGN or one of the big media guys everything will be fine.

They have no reason to when the system isn't official released yet.
 
If there's one thing that Nintendo is consistently horrible at, it's messaging and PR.

Sure. But now is a good a time as any to start being good at it.

Previews have been generally positive. That would not be possible if it were as widespread as some on gaf would like to believe.

Here's the thing. Let's say lighting has a lot to do with this performance issue we're seeing. Previews are generally done in a well-lit area which could potentially circumvent the issue. Now, I'm not saying this is at all the case, I'm just saying that none of us really know yet. It really could be anything at this point and as the old saying goes, hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
 
I'm trying to get caught up... Does this issue affect the Joycons when they're attached to the Switch or only when they're a few feet or more away?
 
I'm trying to get caught up... Does this issue affect the Joycons when they're attached to the Switch or only when they're a few feet or more away?

Only when detached. Distance and obstruction are issues. When attached, both variables are non-existent, so it's fine.
 
Only when detached and more that 8 to 10 feet away from the console itself.

It won't affect the joycons in handheld mode at all. Only when its docked or in tablet mode.

Seems to be a non-issue when attached.

Only when detached. Distance and obstruction are issues. When attached, both variables are non-existent, so it's fine.
Ok thanks everyone. I plan to either be playing entirely in handheld mode or on TV with a Pro controller so I think I'll be ok.
 
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