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My Hero Academia Anime |OT| Go Beyond! PLUS ULTRA! (No Manga spoilers!)

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My Hero Academia reaches 1milliom views on ADN, which is apparently a French anime streaming site.

Its the best the service has had even beating out One Punch Man (within the same time period, google translate is wonky for that)


http://adala-news.fr/2016/05/lanime-my-hero-academia-depasse-les-1-million-de-vues-en-france/

https://www.reddit.com/r/BokuNoHero..._hero_academia_reachs_1_million_views_on_adn/

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So who should deku have tried to save from the slime dude in the first ep then if not his basically worst enemy?

There was nothing wrong with this. It's actually a great way to start a series and many shounens have pulled it off very well. The abrasive asshole/bully is found in a shitty situation and the friendly protagonists chooses to save him/her. It's a good representation of the qualities of a hero, saving your enemy.

The thing is the saved character usually becomes, you know, less of an abrasive asshole even if they're still grumpy and aloof. That's another good message, that people can change. For stuff going on right now, just look at Okuyasu from JoJo. Really, it's something that happens in all shounen to varying degrees (and obviously to varying levels of success). It doesn't have to be an immediate change, but there's usually something that endears us to said character afterwards. What has endeared us to Bakugou since being saved? He doesn't outright attack Deku anymore except when he's provoked (or what he perceives as provoked)? Yeah, great character growth you got there!

I was actually really engrossed when I read the first chapter. "Man, that guy did some pretty shitty things and it might be tough for Midoriya to forgive him, but now they'll be total bros and there's no telling what they can accomplish when they work together!" It was a similar setup to a lot of my favorite series and I was excited to see where it went. If only...
 

Ascheroth

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There was nothing wrong with this. It's actually a great way to start a series and many shounens have pulled it off very well. The abrasive asshole/bully is found in a shitty situation and the friendly protagonists chooses to save him/her. It's a good representation of the qualities of a hero, saving your enemy.

The thing is the saved character usually becomes, you know, less of an abrasive asshole even if they're still grumpy and aloof. That's another good message, that people can change. For stuff going on right now, just look at Okuyasu from JoJo. Really, it's something that happens in all shounen to varying degrees (and obviously to varying levels of success). It doesn't have to be an immediate change, but there's usually something that endears us to said character afterwards. What has endeared us to Bakugou since being saved? He doesn't outright attack Deku anymore except when he's provoked (or what he perceives as provoked)? Yeah, great character growth you got there!

I was actually really engrossed when I read the first chapter. "Man, that guy did some pretty shitty things and it might be tough for Midoriya to forgive him, but now they'll be total bros and there's no telling what they can accomplish when they work together!" It was a similar setup to a lot of my favorite series and I was excited to see where it went. If only...

Honestly? Given Bakugos personality and now that we know his backstory, if he did a heelturn and got all buddy buddy with Deku after that I'd called bullshit.
The dude is a walking ego. Getting saved by someone he considers below him, would not make him warm up to that person, but make him annoyed and angry instead (like it did).

Bakugou is not supposed to be endearing. He's supposed to be a little shit that get's 'respected' because he's damn talented and powerful but is otherwise mostly shunned because no one wants to have anything to do with his awful temper.

And character development? We haven't even gotten to know most of the other classmates yet.

Why do people want to turn bakugou into a generic rival lmao?

Im glad horikoshis smarter than that with this series.

I find peoples reactions to Bakugo pretty interesting tbh.
I thought his character and role are pretty clear cut and refreshing compared to the generic shonen rival archetype, but apparently it isn't.
 

Moaradin

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I'm actually pretty impressed that Bakugo didn't turn out to be the generic rival character and chose to double down on his shittiness.

His character development will be pretty satisfying in the end I think.
 

Lunar15

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Why do people want to turn bakugou into a generic rival lmao?

Im glad horikoshis smarter than that with this series.

I find peoples reactions to Bakugo pretty interesting tbh.
I thought his character and role are pretty clear cut and refreshing compared to the generic shonen rival archetype, but apparently it isn't.

Pretty much this. He's not a character you're supposed to love. He's a character where you and the whole universe of the comic kind of wonder what his deal is. He's a shit. It's great, and it works.

As for another topic, the author also said that Uraraka was originally supposed to have Mt. Lady's power instead, but he felt this would be too "dark". Not really sure what he meant by that.
 
Honestly? Given Bakugos personality and now that we know his backstory, if he did a heelturn and got all buddy buddy with Deku after that I'd called bullshit.
The dude is a walking ego. Getting saved by someone he considers below him, would not make him warm up to that person, but make him annoyed and angry instead (like it did).

That just shows that his backstory and justification is similarly shitty. And even then, I didn't need him to have a bromance with Deku or anything, just something more than total hatred. Even vitriolic friends would have been welcome.

And character development? We haven't even gotten to know most of the other classmates yet.

And the rest of the class goes through some very nice character development.

I find peoples reactions to Bakugo pretty interesting tbh.
I thought his character and role are pretty clear cut and refreshing compared to the generic shonen rival archetype, but apparently it isn't.

The one that actually followed the shonen rival archetype (which we won't see this season) is an actual well-written character. Something can be standard while still being well-executed.
 
There was nothing wrong with this. It's actually a great way to start a series and many shounens have pulled it off very well. The abrasive asshole/bully is found in a shitty situation and the friendly protagonists chooses to save him/her. It's a good representation of the qualities of a hero, saving your enemy.

The thing is the saved character usually becomes, you know, less of an abrasive asshole even if they're still grumpy and aloof. That's another good message, that people can change. For stuff going on right now, just look at Okuyasu from JoJo. Really, it's something that happens in all shounen to varying degrees (and obviously to varying levels of success). It doesn't have to be an immediate change, but there's usually something that endears us to said character afterwards. What has endeared us to Bakugou since being saved? He doesn't outright attack Deku anymore except when he's provoked (or what he perceives as provoked)? Yeah, great character growth you got there!

I was actually really engrossed when I read the first chapter. "Man, that guy did some pretty shitty things and it might be tough for Midoriya to forgive him, but now they'll be total bros and there's no telling what they can accomplish when they work together!" It was a similar setup to a lot of my favorite series and I was excited to see where it went. If only...

You're criticizing this for subverting a shonen trope?
 

Ascheroth

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As for another topic, the author also said that Uraraka was originally supposed to have Mt. Lady's power instead, but he felt this would be too "dark". Not really sure what he meant by that.

That's easy. Think of all the shading he would have to do every time she used her power and cast her shadow over everyone!
 
You're criticizing this for subverting a shonen trope?

I'm criticizing it for subverting a shonen trope in a shitty way. I mentioned Shirou Emiya in the manga thread as a good subversion (even if I'm not the biggest fan of Fate) for actually acknowledging his self-sacrificial nature as a big problem and essentially a mental illness.

Bakugou is not a good subversion.
 

Lunar15

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I'm criticizing it for subverting a shonen trope in a shitty way. I mentioned Shirou Emiya in the manga thread as a good subversion (even if I'm not the biggest fan of Fate) for actually acknowledging his self-sacrificial nature as a big problem and essentially a mental illness.

Bakugou is not a good subversion.

It's almost as if... this story is just beginning.
 

Ascheroth

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That just shows that his backstory and justification is similarly shitty. And even then, I didn't need him to have a bromance with Deku or anything, just something more than total hatred. Even vitriolic friends would have been welcome.



And the rest of the class goes through some very nice character development.



The one that actually followed the shonen rival archetype (which we won't see this season) is an actual well-written character. Something can be standard while still being well-executed.

So Bakugou isn't well-written because you don't like him?
Because I very much consider Bakugou a well-written character, even if he's not 'likeable'.
He is consistent in his shittyness, his backstory makes sense and everyone treats him accordingly.
He also symbolizes a very important part of the current hero society, namely that you do not have to be 'good' to be a hero. He is a shitty person, but not 'evil'.
And he also works as a motivation/hurdle for Deku to overcome, both emotionally and in terms of strenght.

I have opinions for the rest of your points as well, but those probably belong in the manga thread and I'm tired. Going to leave it at that for today.
 
Something can be different and still bad.
... but its not

All im seeing Cosmic is you trying to turn Bakugou into character he is not.
It doesnt fit his personality, style or upbringing to do anything you're suggesting.

Even in the manga Horikoshis done more to expand, explain and get readers to understand Bakugous POV and than trying to do a quick switcheroo like hey im all good now. Its a good thing hes done so considering the amount people who dont seem to get it

Just compare the first chapter with the last chapter thats out right now and you can see how much he has progressed and he will continue to do so (hopefully i guess i mean we haven't even touched 100chapters were pretty high right now but the quality could drop like a rock)
 
Of course! I think the entire cast outside of Bakugou is amazing, with the exception of a certain villain that I'm a little conflicted on. He's the only blight on the franchise as he is now.
Well shoot we on the same page than no problems here. Maybe Bakugou will get a nice redemption for me to Like him for now its just so so but again I like his quirk
 
So Bakugou isn't well-written because you don't like him?
Because I very much consider Bakugou a well-written character, even if he's not 'likeable'.

On his own, I don't consider him poorly written. It's how he's portrayed in the story itself (panel framing, what's focused on, etc) and how he's treated by the rest of the cast.

As you said, this discussion belongs in the manga thread.
 
Bakugou is one of my favorite characters in the show. I do not know why, its like he is so extremely flawed in his thinking that it is holding his total potential back and I want to see him realize it and grow as a character.
 

Skrams

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I feel like I need the sound of all for one as a text message tone. Also haven't seen a gif of everything exploding and the windows from the recent episode yet in this thread I think.

I'm sick of talking about Bakugou! Let's talk about Tokoyami!

Who had a single throwaway line this episode!

He's da best

Also man, Kaminari doesn't do a lot, but I'm really glad Tasuku Hatanaka is voicing him. Same guy that voices Ushio in Ushio and Tora and Ikoma in Kabaneri. I really like his voice despite him not doing a lot of work so far.
 
I'm sick of talking about Bakugou! Let's talk about Tokoyami!

Who had a single throwaway line this episode!

Why are people trying to dictate conversation about the show? People want to discuss how bad Bakugo is and some want to just keep that quiet and go on like there's nothing wrong with the show.
 
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