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xbhaskarx said:
I call BS, no launch 360 would have lasted that long. If it did, it was not being used as much as he claims it was.
xbhaskarx said:
Dot50Cal said:Has there been any update on this story?
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/a89579/microsoft-unveils-plan-to-end-reliability-woes.html
Anyone seeing these out in the wild yet?
That's surprising, that should be a Falcon unit and I was under the impression that the Falcons simply had the RROD removed from them altogether (ie: Microsoft has changed the error mechanism to get by having to support the models for 3 years)Skilletor said:The console was manufactured 12-26-2007, but i guess that doesn't matter much. Two weeks and it's dead.
TJ Bennett said:Well after a little over two years my 360 died on me. My dead baby of a console was manufactured in January of 06. I'm sure this has been asked a billion times by now but due to the sheer size of this thread I was just wondering how quickly turn around time is now. I'm pissed but after reading some of the horror stories here I can't complain too much since this is my first dead 360.
FLUXCapacitor said:So just a few weeks ago I recieved what I believe is my fourth console (starting to lose track heh) and yet again its a refurbished one. This one works ok so far, but it is far louder than any of the other ones I've had. I really can't stand how loud it is and it even has the new DVD drive. My 3rd console had the same drive and it was very quiet. Anyway is there any chance I could just call up and lie about this one saying it's getting RRoD and they would replace it? Or will they test the console when I send it in and just send it back if its ok?
FLUXCapacitor said:So just a few weeks ago I recieved what I believe is my fourth console (starting to lose track heh) and yet again its a refurbished one. This one works ok so far, but it is far louder than any of the other ones I've had. I really can't stand how loud it is and it even has the new DVD drive. My 3rd console had the same drive and it was very quiet. Anyway is there any chance I could just call up and lie about this one saying it's getting RRoD and they would replace it? Or will they test the console when I send it in and just send it back if its ok?
There's no way it's only 16%, but even if it was... 16% of 10 million is 1.6m dead consoles. With that many dead out there it's not surprising that pretty much everyone knows someone with a dead machine. :loljmdajr said:I think almost every single person I know has had their 360 breakdown, and not just for the 3 right lights of horrible death. Drive failure, Video glitches, and even busted Ethernet port connections. 16% fault rate seems low to me.
from what actual people who sent in boxes that didn't red ring have said, once the reason is rrod, they send out another box as soon as they receive your rrod console, then they do any checking after the fact.Kiyamon said:From what the customer service agent told me they do test to make sure it is "RRoD", if it is not they will contact you and let you know if you want them to continue to fix for a $99 fee or just ship the broken box back.
one year warranty for things other than 3rlodfunkmastergeneral said:So my Xbox 360 randomly today decided to become retarded and won't read any discs, despite the fact it was playing fine yesterday. Is the unplayable disc error covered by warranty or will I have to induce a RROD?
The Faceless Master said:one year warranty for things other than 3rlod
Not particularly, no. Most 360s don't do this so hopefully the one you get back from MS wont.-OGz-GLUTEUS_MAXIMUS said:Is there any truth to the "stand it on end" and it won't get scratched theory? I can move things around in my enteratainment center to make this happen if need be so it won't happen again.
-OGz-GLUTEUS_MAXIMUS said:Sending my son's in already. Less than 3 months old. Got the disk scratched by the lens issue.
Is there any truth to the "stand it on end" and it won't get scratched theory? I can move things around in my enteratainment center to make this happen if need be so it won't happen again.
I would consider "toweling" the console to get a RRoD before you try returning it. Last I checked, Microsoft still doesn't recognize the disc scratching problem as existing.
we got our first falcon rrod report many many pages back they are indeed not immune to red ring of doom. the fundamental design of the 360 itself is probably flawed and not just cheap manufacturing. I bet that as time goes on more and more falcons will break until we see a complete system redesign.pr0cs said:That's surprising, that should be a Falcon unit and I was under the impression that the Falcons simply had the RROD removed from them altogether (ie: Microsoft has changed the error mechanism to get by having to support the models for 3 years)
Either way this is the first likely Falcon I've heard of dying.
We did? So far there are 3 dead falcons on record... all from rs7k and all with dead drives from the same store. There have certainly been no NeoGAF people with RRoD falcons prior to this month.Shaheed79 said:we got our first falcon rrod report many many pages back they are indeed not immune to red ring of doom. the fundamental design of the 360 itself is probably flawed and not just cheap manufacturing. I bet that as time goes on more and more falcons will break until we see a complete system redesign.
Wow, I didn't know they "re-date" units that are refurb'd. When did they start doing this? I was under the assumption that the date sticker was always from the original unit.Psychotext said:We did? So far there are 3 dead falcons on record... all from rs7k and all with dead drives from the same store. There have certainly been no NeoGAF people with RRoD falcons prior to this month.
As for that console, the date on the refurbs MS sends out isn't a manufacturing date, it's a refurb date. Will check with Skilletor to get more details when I do the stats though.
So far I've seen one confirmed RRoD falcon machine on the net (though I'm sure there must be more out there). It's the picture of the Halo machine sat on the carpet.pr0cs said:Do we know if the RRoD has been removed from Falcons? I'm pretty sure I read that Microsoft removed the ability for the machine to RRoD and now it doesn't nothing or spits out some error message, no RRoD (to bypass them having to support it).
bigmakstudios said:Are you fucking serious? I know that their zombie-like dumbass customer support reps were trained to claim that the user was tilting the console while it was in use, but I was so adamant that the DVD drive was defective. Do I really need to resort to intentionally destroying their console in order to get them to fix a problem? If I receive an unchanged 360, I'm going to be so pissed... I mean... wtf could I do? I honestly almost feel like I should just try to sell it and replace it with a PS3 if the problem isn't fixed. GTA4 is coming up, and I'm not going to wait for it to send the 360 in again...
Yeah this is what I was talking about. Guess it was all BS, good because it would seem really dirty tactics to remove the RRoD to get by the wording in the extended warranty.Psychotext said:There was talk of the newer models having a "xmas lights" pattern to replace the 3 lights patten but nothing much has come of it since the initial (probably inaccurate) report.
175w PSU.Dave Long said:So how do I tell if the one I'm buying isn't old and crusty? I want to be sure I'm getting one of the revamped models and not just another lemon (not that any of them are foolproof these days...)
Sorry I got this thread confused with its sister thread at txb. Falcon have been confirmed not immune to failure since at least December. Also go check out Xbox.com for further proof. Falcons do better for sure but the underlining faults still remain.Psychotext said:We did? So far there are 3 dead falcons on record... all from rs7k and all with dead drives from the same store. There have certainly been no NeoGAF people with RRoD falcons prior to this month.
As for that console, the date on the refurbs MS sends out isn't a manufacturing date, it's a refurb date. Will check with Skilletor to get more details when I do the stats though.
If thats true that is some of the shadiest stuff I ever heard of. So when a falcon breaks since it isnt officially an "rrod" they don't have to support the three year warranty specifically for rrod? I hope that's not the case.pr0cs said:Do we know if the RRoD has been removed from Falcons? I'm pretty sure I read that Microsoft removed the ability for the machine to RRoD and now it doesn't nothing or spits out some error message, no RRoD (to bypass them having to support it).
Nothing is immune to failure... but falcons clearly have more of a normal electronics failure rate than other 360s.Shaheed79 said:Sorry I got this thread confused with its sister thread at txb. Falcon have been confirmed not immune to failure since at least December.
Yup, my last box was scratching nice circular rings into my games, and Microsoft would only claim that it was user error, and that it did not fall under their warranty. Luckily, I had an in-store replacement plan, but right now, your best bet might be to kill it yourself, and hope you get a different console out of their pool of spares.
Psychotext said:Nothing is immune to failure... but falcons clearly have more of a normal electronics failure rate than other 360s.
Probably drop for GTA4... who knows though. As for safe buy? Fairly would probably be right, but you could always be one of the unlucky few. :lolsonarrat said:So they're a fairly safe buy at this point? Is the price likely to go down again soon?