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Clevinger said:
I'm fine with nationalism when it actually helps improve its country. That rarely happens though.
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I thought it was clear that it was cynicism.

Anyway, for the next Mars exploration, we should kickstart a new 8k 3D camera. And get James Cameron involved for the film material.
 
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LobLob said:
I suppose if private companies can make a shit load of money some CEO might try to some day though. I mean, if Mars has lot's of Iron and other minerals, i bet one day in the far future some company could set up a mining industry there.
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I'd rather the NASA be the one to do it. The things they look to achieve on these missions help enlighten improve every Science in the Universe.
 
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Opiate said:
I don't think this is likely. China is not known for being international and inclusive; instead, they're known for being especially nationalistic and exclusive.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but I wouldn't get my hopes up that China will be better than the US in this regard -- they're likely to be much worse. Still, scientific progress is scientific progress, and I'll take exclusive nationalistic progress over no progress at all, if those are my only two options.
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It's funny. How can we trust you when you are the first one throw trust out of the window?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISS#China

All 5 governmental partners would need to agree before China could be included. ESA is open to China's inclusion, the United States of America (US) is against it. The US concerns over the transfer of technology which could be used for military purposes echo similar concerns with Russia prior to their membership.[275] These concerns were overcome, and NASA became solely dependent upon Russian crew capsules when its Shuttles were grounded after the Columbia accident in 2003,[276] and again after its retirement in 2011.[277][278] China believes that international exchanges and cooperation in the field of aerospace engineering should be intensified on the basis of mutual benefit, peaceful use and common development.[269] China's manned Shenzhou spacecraft use an APAS docking system, developed after a 1994–95 deal for the transfer of Russian Soyuz spacecraft technology. Included in the agreement was training, provision of Soyuz capsules, life support systems, docking systems, and space suits. American observers comment that Shenzhou spacecraft could dock at the ISS if it became politically feasible, whilst Chinese engineers say work is still required on the rendezvous system. Shenzhou 7 passed within about 50 kilometres of the ISS.[270][279][280]
American co-operation with China in space is limited, efforts have been made by both sides to improve relations,[281] but in 2011 new American legislation further strengthened legal barriers to co-operation, preventing NASA co-operation with China or Chinese owned companies, even the expenditure of funds used to host Chinese visitors at NASA facilities, unless specifically authorised by new laws,[48] at the same time China, Europe and Russia have a co-operative relationship in several space exploration projects.[282] Between 2007 and 2011, the space agencies of Europe, Russia and China carried out the ground-based preparations in the Mars500 project, which complement the ISS-based preparations for a manned mission to Mars.[283]
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Rentahamster

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Private companies aren't going to advance new frontier. They can barely get 62 miles up, very old frontier.
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Comparing the achievements of new startups with a 54 year old multi billion dollar government space organization isn't very fair. The private companies are still young, but they've already accomplished many things that took NASA a long time to do.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...e-spaceships/2012/05/03/gJQAReIbUX_story.html

WASHINGTON — NASA picked three aerospace companies Friday to build small rocketships to take astronauts to the International Space Station.

This is the third phase of NASA’s efforts to get private space companies to take over the job of the now-retired space shuttle. The companies will share more than $1.1 billion. Two of the ships are capsules like in the Apollo era and the third is closer in design to the space shuttle.
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Clevinger said:
Also, they largely can't even get up to that old frontier without government contracts.
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How is this a detractor? Besides, for companies like SpaceX, the NASA money isn't just only awards like the one they recently won. The money from NASA (which is about a quarter of their total funding) comes from a purchase of services, not an outright grant.

JABEE said:
And Private companies will want to look for ways to profit off of Space Travel rather than take a more scientific approach.
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The pursuit of profit often coincides with the pursuit of science. This is why companies have an R&D department. You think Moore's Law would keep the pace it does if it wasn't profitable for Intel/AMD/IBM/etc to do so?
 
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Wish the raw images would update on the MSL site!

For those waiting up, only a couple of 512x512 images received during the last uplink. Mostly health data from the rover. Stay tuned for tomorrow's press conference at 9am PST/12 EST
 
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Boo, no front picture.

Oh well. Tomorrow they will deploy the high gain antenna, so we can communicate directly with the rover, which means they'll probably use the satellite repeater for more pictures later.

It was amazing ya'll. Thanks for the company.
 
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raphier said:
So where the hell can I see the landing sequence ? For those who were sleeping a the time.
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There won't be any nice video or anything of the actual landing, if that's what you are wondering about. Just a slideshow. If you want to see what went on, this is your best bet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzqdoXwLBT8

...then just imagine a bunch of NASA dudes and dudettes humping each other in excitement when they found out it worked.
 
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Awesome stuff.

Regarding the pics, these are pictures taken with the hazard cams.. Its only to check that Curiosity landed in a safe place.

Colour pics are not high priority right now as they need to check all the systems first.
 
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Forsete said:
Awesome stuff.

Regarding the pics, these are pictures taken with the hazard cams.. Its only to check that Curiosity landed in a safe place.

Colour pics are not high priority right now as they need to check all the systems first.
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And finish painting the set.
 
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I think that the amazing photographs/video, discoveries and explorations this rover makes over the years could inspire a whole new generation.
 
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I think that the amazing photographs/video, discoveries and explorations this rover makes over the years could inspire a whole new generation.
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What we really need for inspiration, I think, are actual manned missions and colonies.

Back to the moon for practice, then onward to Mars. We are 20 years late to the party already.
 
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Rentahamster said:
Comparing the achievements of new startups with a 54 year old multi billion dollar government space organization isn't very fair. The private companies are still young, but they've already accomplished many things that took NASA a long time to do.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...e-spaceships/2012/05/03/gJQAReIbUX_story.html




How is this a detractor? Besides, for companies like SpaceX, the NASA money isn't just only awards like the one they recently won. The money from NASA (which is about a quarter of their total funding) comes from a purchase of services, not an outright grant.


The pursuit of profit often coincides with the pursuit of science. This is why companies have an R&D department. You think Moore's Law would keep the pace it does if it wasn't profitable for Intel/AMD/IBM/etc to do so?
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What private company has advanced a frontier in history? It's too expensive, dangerous, and risky. The government(s) have to do it.

By the way, the link you posted, isn't advancing a new frontier. They are taking knowledge from NASA. They can only do it because NASA has done it. And other countries.
 
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