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[Shamrock7r]

One thing that does suck is that it seems like the Spurs will give Pau more money, just stretched out over more years, at the end of this summer, whereas if they waited they would've had even more cap space in 2018.

It won't affect the Spurs too much. Even with a new Pau contract, Spurs are prolly going to have enough cap space to sign 2 all stars if they can/want after the upcoming season.

 

[Hyperactivity]

SAS says if Melo gets bought out he is going to Houston.

Just wanted to add something I realized just now

The former Knicks coach said in a long feature in “ESPN The Magazine” that he “quit” after “Anthony said the team needed to choose between him and D’Antoni.” D’Antoni resigned as Knicks coach in March 2012.

“I just went in and quit,” D’Antoni said in the story that mentioned his struggles getting through to Anthony and Kobe Bryant and covered the rebirth he’s enjoyed with the Rockets.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baske...nthony-forced-coach-s-exit-from-ny-1.13588497

Not happening

 

[Vault Dweller 111]

Paul George wants to win though.
Surprised why he isn't considering the Raptors.

🤔

 

[Rvaan]

Weekly reminder Chris Paul and Blake Griffin locked a grown ass man in a room to make him sign with the LACs and they both probably gone

This will continue to make me laugh.

 

[LionPride]

 

[Anth0ny]

Weekly reminder Chris Paul and Blake Griffin locked a grown ass man in a room to make him sign with the LACs and they both probably gone

this was so fucked thinking back


and it literally lead to nothing lol

 

[MetalFearSolid]

Just wanted to add something I realized just now



http://www.newsday.com/sports/baske...nthony-forced-coach-s-exit-from-ny-1.13588497

Not happening

Yeah was thinking about this.
Don't see it happening.

 

[Vault Dweller 111]

Favors is an expiring contract so a team would have to be really high on him and willing to give him a huge extension for him to be an asset. Exum has done zilch and is about to hit Summer League after his third season so I'm not sure how high his value is around the league. Utah might also have to keep him depending on what happens with Hill.

I did say it wouldn't happen.

Maybe "a ton" was wrong. But they could definitely beat any George offers being thrown around. For reference the Jazz traded for that #28 pick the Lakers were dangling and took Tony Bradley. So I guess he fits the bill too.

And I'd rather have Hood than Dunn, Lavine, Clarkson, or Randle.

 

[Cheebo]

this was so fucked thinking back


and it literally lead to nothing lol

Dallas is probably happier that got Nerlens Noel in the end over Deandre.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

I did say it wouldn't happen.

Maybe "a ton" was wrong. But they could definitely beat any George offers being thrown around. For reference the Jazz traded for that #28 pick the Lakers were dangling and took Tony Bradley. So I guess he fits the bill too.

And I'd rather have Hood than Dunn, Lavine, Clarkson, or Randle.

Hood is another guy on an expiring contract though. Not sure Indy has much interest in trading George for "ok" players who are going to either be due for big pay days in a year, or are going to have to be let walk for nothing.

 

[phanphare]

oh that's good

 

[MetalFearSolid]

So surprised Cavs haven't done anything to upgrade roster via trade
Must be ok with getting to Finals and losing again

 

[U2NUMB]

So surprised Cavs haven't done anything to upgrade roster via trade
Must be ok with getting to Finals and losing again

Nobody wants K love

 

[jbug617]

DA says Rockets calling all over the league to get non guaranteed contracts to put in the CP3 trade

So surprised Cavs haven't done anything to upgrade roster via trade
Must be ok with getting to Finals and losing again

hard to do with no GM and bad assets.

 

[Jarate]

 

[jmizzal]

Weekly reminder Chris Paul and Blake Griffin locked a grown ass man in a room to make him sign with the LACs and they both probably gone

Wasnt Paul Pierce in the room too lol and he just retired, Doc prob bout to leave too thats 4 guys who convinced him to stay

Deandre shouldnt ever trust any other players bs, cuz they gonna do whats best for them when their time comes.

 

[Lionel Richie]

I thought Philadelphia fans were good with patience.

 

[Hyperactivity]

I'd like to point out that Daryl Morey has never won an executive of the year award.

Not in 2015 when he made a ton of trade deadline trades to help strengthen our injury hobbled team, got Ariza on a steal of a contract, came ridiculously close to getting Bosh (ok that shouldn't count), and Harden showed he was an MVP caliber player

Not in 2014 when we landed Dwight and had built up a good core (didn't even get a top 3 vote)

Not in 2013 when we traded for Harden, got Lin and Asik on those poison pill contracts, drafted Parsons (a 2nd round steal), and signed Beverley

The voting in 2013:

Masai Ujiri - Nuggets: 8 1st place, 6 2nd place, 1 3rd place, for a total of 59 points

Gary Sacks - Clippers: 3 1st place, 4 2nd place, 1 3rd place, for a total of 28 points

Daryl Morey - Rockets: 4 1st place, 1 2nd place, 2 3rd place, for a total of 25 points (tied with Knicks GM btw)

And now, in 2017, coming off a horrendous season where he:

1) Hires the COTY
2) Gets an associate head coach to specialize in defense
3) Gets Ryno and Gordon who have great healthy seasons (1 of whom becomes a 6MOY)
4) Capela has a breakout season, Dekker has a great, essentially rookie season, and Harrell, a 2nd round pick, has a great season too
5) Patrick Beverley and Trevor Ariza (continue) to demonstrate how ridiculous their steals for contracts are.
6) Trades Corey Brewer, a negative asset, for Lou Williams, a positive asset, at the cost of the 28th pick in the draft
7) Signs Nene in one of the best and most underrated free agent signings from last year
8) Extends Harden, after a season where many were down on his ability to lead a team

This was the EOTY voting this year, btw:

Bob Myers this year:
1) Signed Kevin Durant, whose recruitment was likely somewhat challenging yes, but who wouldn't make that move?
2) Got a ring chaser in David West on their team
3) Bought a 2nd round pick that became Patrick McCaw
4) Signed Javale McGee.
5) Signed Matt Barnes mid-way through the season
6) Waived Varejao

Good moves, yes, but also not risky, somewhat obvious tbh, had the benefit of a 73 win team to help with recruitment, etc.

Also who gave GarPax a 1st place vote? Who?

 

[Hydrus]

Weekly reminder Chris Paul and Blake Griffin locked a grown ass man in a room to make him sign with the LACs and they both probably gone

I forgot all about this lol.

 

[LionPride]

Also a reminder that Chris Broussard reported that Mark Cuban was driving around Dallas at 2 AM trying to find DeAndre Jordan so he could sign him

 

[Rvaan]

Also who gave GarPax a 1st place vote? Who?

Sam Presti

 

[Bread]

Ernie Grunfeld is a mess of a GM

 

[Line_HTX]

So what's with all that talk about Daryl Morey "aggressively" persuing Paul George thing about? That's still going or nah?

 

[Hyperactivity]

I'm confident in Morey's ability to consistently scrounge up role players from out of nowhere and D'Antoni's ability to help players have some of their best seasons under him.

Especially with Harden and CP3 running the offense, and with D'Antoni, I'm sure a couple of random players will have their trade value skyrocket by the trade deadline, if we need to make even more moves

 

[Shamrock7r]

So what's with all that talk about Daryl Morey "aggressively" persuing Paul George thing about? That's still going or nah?

Morey's strategy seems to be "pursue every star and worry about the fit later". Not necessarily a bad strategy. They've been linked to nearly every free agent.

 

[jbug617]

Clippers also get Montrezl Harrell in the CP3 deal.

 

[darkwing-buck]

Morey's strategy seems to be "pursue every star and worry about the fit later". Not necessarily a bad strategy. They've been linked to nearly every free agent.

Pretty much, reports are that they want Melo or George LOL Melo and D'antoni....

 

[Hyperactivity]

Dammit I'm going to miss this man so fucking much.

So what's with all that talk about Daryl Morey "aggressively" persuing Paul George thing about? That's still going or nah?

Still happening

https://twitter.com/LegionHoops/status/880099809927061504

James Harden and Chris Paul have already started recruiting Paul George to Houston, reports @WindhorstESPN.

https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/880118990860931072

Rockets telling teams they've been in talks with they've assembled needed pieces to execute Paul trade. Headed to league office for approval

https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/880117818410381312

Rockets are in midst of painting salary-cap manipulation masterpiece and there's a horde of teams involved or trying to get involved.

https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/880092467378483206

Chris Paul opting in instead of signing new max contract now will cost him about $11 million next season. But he has a $3.6M trade kicker.

https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/880113790389555200

Portland has traded Tim Quarterman to the Houston Rockets for cash, league source tells @TheVertical.

https://twitter.com/LegionHoops/status/880107667544563712

More
Another trade:

Rockets are acquiring DeAndre Liggins from the Mavs for cash.

https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/880115108801912841

The Rockets are gathering non-guaranteed contracts to use in Clippers trade, or elsewhere. Owner Leslie Alexander is spending to compete.

 

[spyder_ur]

Clippers also get Montrezl Harrell in the CP3 deal.

Man that Rockets front court is thin... will be interesting to see who they make a play for.

 

[Line_HTX]

Well, I gues bye, Harrell.

Give Portland and Dallas some cash, alright alright.

 

[darkwing-buck]

What do the Rockets even have to offer for PG?

 

[Vault Dweller 111]

Man that Rockets front court is thin... will be interesting to see who they make a play for.

Rockets aggressively persuing Anthony Davis and Karl Anthony Towns.

 

[spyder_ur]

What do the Rockets even have to offer for PG?

Tim Quarterman.

 

[Line_HTX]

Thanks for everything, Beverley, Sweet Lou, and Sam. One final sendoff of Sam Dekker who's a really good 3-point shooter, no doubt...

 

[darkwing-buck]

Tim Quarterman.

Who?

 

[Randolph Freelander]

Thanks for everything, Beverley, Sweet Lou, and Sam. One final sendoff of Sam Dekker who's a really good 3-point shooter, no doubt...

Some idiot painted a 3 point line there. Not Dekker's fault.

 

[jbug617]

Here is the deal.

So (take a breath): Beverley, Williams, Dekker, Harrell, Kelly, Liggins, Quarterman & 2018 first (small protection) to Clippers for CP3.

 

[LionPride]

Thanks for everything, Beverley, Sweet Lou, and Sam. One final sendoff of Sam Dekker who's a really good 3-point shooter, no doubt...

 

[Bread]

Here is the deal.

Damn
Clippers diving head first into the rebuild

 

[Hyperactivity]

https://twitter.com/ClevisMurray/status/880099413473058816

J.J. Redick won't be re-signing with the L.A. Clippers. (Via Brian Windhorst - ESPN)

https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/880124598209085440

FWIW: Chris Paul was telling people a few days ago that he hoped to play with Carmelo Anthony.

https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/880123618394374144

Source on Rockets: "They think they are getting Carmelo or Paul George."

https://twitter.com/TommyBeer/status/880123426995937289

With CP3 opting in, it now appears likely that LeBron, Melo, D Wade and CP3 will all be unrestricted free agents on July 1st, 2018.

https://twitter.com/BA_Turner/status/880120889299189760

Clippers will also get backup center Montrezl Harrell as part of the Chris Paul trade, per source.

Dammit.

https://twitter.com/CVivlamoreAJC/status/880120765844267009

The Hawks are nearing a deal to trade Ryan Kelly to the Rockets for cash considerations. Could be completed today.

https://twitter.com/CVivlamoreAJC/status/880122314691575810

That was quick. Hawks announce the trade of Kelly to the Rockets.

https://twitter.com/CVivlamoreAJC/status/880121737530281986

It's possible Rockets could release Kelly and he could return to Hawks.

https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Feigen/status/880120633006452737

With Rockets collecting pieces to make trade for Chris Paul, will allow them work as team over cap, have $8.4m exception to go FA shopping.

https://twitter.com/CVivlamoreAJC/status/880127517482520577

Has the term 'cash considerations' been used more than today?

https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN/status/880101333616926720

Chris Paul was seriously interested in Spurs, source says, but chance to play off ball & share PG duties w/James Harden was more attractive.

 

[Peter Ian Staker]

Paul George wants to win though.
Surprised why he isn't considering the Raptors.

Come on Pacers we will give you Carroll for a 1 year rental

Demarre Carroll contract might be worse than Parsons.
Actually I take that back

Masai's plan to build the eastern version of lob city would be complete.

Until PG bolted to the Lakers that is.

 

[Randolph Freelander]

https://twitter.com/ClevisMurray/status/880099413473058816

J.J. Redick won't be re-signing with the L.A. Clippers. (Via Brian Windhorst - ESPN)

Redick to Cavs.

Spoiler

(With what money?)

He'll make those open 3s.

 

[Hyperactivity]

https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/880117755189637121

Rockets calling all over the league to find more non-guaranteed deals to put in CP3 trade.

https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/880127694725423117

So (take a breath): Beverley, Williams, Dekker, Harrell, Kelly, Liggins, Quarterman & 2018 first (small protection) to Clippers for CP3.

Morey seems to be trying to create a trade exception to continue to make moves.

Iirc, he also got a trade exception for the Lou Williams trade.

 

[Bread]

damn look at Morey go

 

[jmizzal]

JJ Reddick gone too, thats another guy from the Deandre Jordan house lock down leaving, and they convinced him to stay haha

What do the Rockets even have to offer for PG?

I dont see how Indy will accept any deal from Houston for PG when they didnt accept the Lakers or Celtics deals of high picks and young assets

 

[darkwing-buck]

DeAndre Jordan in 2018.

 

[El Topo]

Cuban with the last laugh.

Spoiler

DeAndre still makes a shit ton of money though.

 

[friskykillface]

Ainge gonna get Redick

 

[LionPride]

Ainge gonna get Redick

No

Let the Wolves get him

Please I don't wanna see Brandon Rush ever again

 

[Hyperactivity]

damn look at Morey go

jfc the man can't help himself, he always has to make moves XD

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/6k25kk/combined_this_is_what_the_rockets_traded_to_get/

Combined, this is what the Rockets traded to get CP3 and James Harden: Kevin Martin, Jeremy Lamb, Sam Dekker, Patrick Beverley, Lou Williams, picks (that became Steven Adams, Alex Abrines and Mitch McGary), and a protected 2018 1st round pick (self.nba)

Daryl Morey built maybe the best backcourt in the NBA with table scraps. Somehow a bunch of bench players and three first round picks -- the No. 12 in 2013, the No. 21 in 2014, and a protected first rounder in 2018 -- gets you both Chris Paul and James Harden. Damn.

UPDATE: It was just reported that Montrezl Harrell is also going to the Clippers

[sources: https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-clippers-agree-trade-chris-paul-rockets-154013456.html http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hardeja01.html https://twitter.com/BA_Turner/status/880120889299189760]