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NBA Offseason 2017 |OT| Only Big Ballers Allowed *please pay $495 to be a Big Baller
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Starphoenix
Member
Actually thought about this. Only problem is I don't think the Cavs would have the cap space for Melo's contract without offloading more assets.
KissDaRing
Banned
Aldridge and Melo have opt out clauses after this season as well which complicates things.
Requesting a trade doesn't mean anything in terms of diminishing his trade value. He wasn't rumored all year to want to go to a specific team like George.
Peter Ian Staker
Member
Hey if it's a team that can ignore this gap and be competitive without having to amass 4 all stars it's the Spurs.
BlackGhost
Banned
Assets.....
Yup. That one half though. That one half. Spurs weren't beating the Dubs 4 times. Not a chance.
This Kyrie news is huge. Best offseason ever. I'm rooting for him to go to the Spurs. Pop would do wonders for his game.
Ha! What an unexpected twist. Lebron must be shook.
Either way, it looks like the east might be winnable this year.
Assuming he falls in line. Which seems to be at odds with the reason for asking for the trade.
Either way, it looks like the east might be winnable this year.
it would be knicksy if we traded KP and a first for kyrie (no protections because what is that???) while keeping melo instead
MetalFearSolid
Banned
Goran Dragic and Lebron James in transition would be nasty!
Would you take that roster, or the one Lebron carried to to the Finals?
2007:
Shannon Brown
Drew Gooden
Larry Hughes
Ilgauskas
Damon Jones
Donyell Marshal
Ira Newble
Eric Snow
Varejao
Sasha Pavlovic
vs
2012:
Trisran Thompson
CJ Miles
Dion Waiters
Shaun Livingston
Ramon Sessions
Luke Walton
Antawn Jamison
Varejao
Casspi
Anthony Parker
Keep it real. We're talking about the 8th seed IN THE EAST.
detectiveconan1
Member
Dragic + Winslow + J Rich + future 1st round pick?
I'm betting the Cavs ask for Whiteside and Pat says no.
BlackGhost
Banned
So D. Rose......
It seems like people constantly forget what the game of basketball is
TrumanBurbank
Member
Would Kyrie even work in the Spurs system? Dude is a Ball HOG
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Lebron not going to get involved:
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ene-cleveland-cavaliers-decision-kyrie-irving
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ene-cleveland-cavaliers-decision-kyrie-irving
BlackGhost
Banned
This the exact moment Kyrie decided to leave
https://youtu.be/dk1l_y0VaJo
https://youtu.be/dk1l_y0VaJo
Peter Ian Staker
Member
To be fair the east in 07 was a worse wasteland than it will be this year and 2012 was the best the east has been post Jordan's Bulls.
Randolph Freelander
Member
For a second, you could see Kyrie's mind going "Y'all can't be.... I'm bout to burn this building down with y'all in it."
The Spurs system is win games.
Their system is that everyone shuts up and buys into whatever the front office plans to do. The high passing ball game wasn't something the Spurs always did. When Duncan was in his prime, the game was "pass Duncan the ball, let him kick the ball out if he's doubled".
The Spurs desperately need a reliable starting second option that can score. In theory, Danny Green and Larmarcus Aldridge are meant to offer these things but both can get so inconsistent that sometimes Kawhi becomes the offense.
mingoguaya
Member
I'll be ok with Justise, Tyler and a future 1st round pick.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Riley "washed" but Miami stays in big player conversations. I'm cool with Kyrie coming if He's cool with backing up The Dragon. If not he can kick rocks.
Maybe Mitchell + Exum + Salary Cap player?
Ninja Scooter
Member
Kyrie is a great scorer but w/ Bron he's a high usage guy with non existent D. He's a step below John Wall on the great player hierarchy. LeBron is the best thing that ever happened to him.
It's Miami, of course players want to be there. If there was a team in San Diego it'd be the same.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Lebron should just take the first 10 games of the season off. Let Kyrie be "the guy" and when they start 3-7 everything will be cool again
Not to mention he is injury prone as well, he would probably be injured from carrying the team before that 10 games ended.
LeBron is the best thing to happen to him
I think a Melo and pick(s) trade for Kyrie makes some semblance of sense in that the Cavs can at least get going on their rebuild in quick fashion if Bron bounces next year. They're out one protected first (1-10) to the Hawks and three seconds so they're asset weak right now -- as one would expect doing everything to compete now.
If Knicks give up at least one unprotected or very lightly protected pick, I don't think you'll do much better in serving both short and long-term goals than that. The Spurs won't give their pick in that sense, and Danny Green/LMA both are a year away from opt-out chances as well.
If Knicks give up at least one unprotected or very lightly protected pick, I don't think you'll do much better in serving both short and long-term goals than that. The Spurs won't give their pick in that sense, and Danny Green/LMA both are a year away from opt-out chances as well.
Until his knees go Amare on him at least.
RiggityRice
Member
Damn what in the blue hell is going on this off season. The most drama filled offseason ever possibly? So much going on from coast to coast.
i3allistic
Member
Been saying since first Finals series 2 years ago...Kyrie and his crew never got along with Bron ...
Dude, he was a goddamn rookie/young ass player. Almost no one except the absolute superstar god kings can have a great immediate impact. People like Jordan, LeBron. And even then, it took them a few years to morph into who they are. Kyrie's playing history before LeBron came is irrelevant to how well he'll do now on another team.
And really, same for his time for the Cavs. The Cavs were built around LeBron, not Kyrie. They're designed to be a bit slower and move around LeBron. Kyrie is more of a fast-pace player. We don't know how he'll perform until we see it.
Lionel Richie
Member
It doesn't help the trade value. If you wanted Kyrie before this happened you would have to offer quite a king's ransom to the Cavs. If you want him now the talks begin with a lowball offer. It's not impossible the Cavs pull off a good deal out of this, but considering the summer they had I wouldn't hold my breath.
Ok... how was he supposed to signify that he would be fine with/would like a trade then? Secret hand signals? Because otherwise the Cavs won't do anything with him as they think he'll be a lifelong.