9 rebounds and a couple of blocks. He was active, pushed the ball, tried to get the team involved. He gave a lot of guys good looks to make shots. He wasn't looking to score. He did terrible, but not as terrible as the rest of the team, given their roles and experience. No reason why Lonzo should be out hustling the rest of the team for rebounds. Team looked absolutely lost when he wasn't coordinating the offense.
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NBA Regular Season 2017-18 |OT| KD's chip, IT's hip, LeBron's Sinking Ship
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9 rebounds and a couple of blocks. He was active, pushed the ball, tried to get the team involved. He gave a lot of guys good looks to make shots. He wasn't looking to score. He did terrible, but not as terrible as the rest of the team, given their roles and experience. No reason why Lonzo should be out hustling the rest of the team for rebounds. Team looked absolutely lost when he wasn't coordinating the offense.
friskykillface
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Ninja Scooter
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They have the kind of game that is going to translate over faster. I'm not trying to say Lonzo had a good game, but I'd be more worried if he looked shook or like the game was too big for him. I was sort of surprised at how confident he looked all game.
RedAssedApe
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Would have been close to a double double if people made shots. Wasnt close to being as bad as the stat line suggests.
Not sure why you guys think Lonzo is going to be putting up pts. He was rarely the leading scorer at UCLA and they were the number 1 offense.
Not sure why you guys think Lonzo is going to be putting up pts. He was rarely the leading scorer at UCLA and they were the number 1 offense.
Hyperactivity
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https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN/status/921242015014309889
https://twitter.com/ArashMarkazi/status/921241827440672768
I love him so fucking much.
Marc J. Spears said:
https://twitter.com/ArashMarkazi/status/921241827440672768
Arash Markazi said:
I love him so fucking much.
MetalFearSolid
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Ben Simmons. Dude is filling that stat sheet effortlessly.
Did you see Simmons in the opener? I like Tatum and all, but...
Melo looks ridiculous with that hoodie up as do KG and Snoop. Poor Candace has to sit in a room with those 2 all night.
RedAssedApe
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Beverly Still with that chip on his shoulder Lol
GravityInsanity
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LyleLanley
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Hyperactivity
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I miss him SOO much
RedAssedApe
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I miss him SOO much
We get it. Lol
perfectchaos007
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Isn't Joel Embiid still a rookie?
We also get you're trying to rationalize Lonzo Ball's poor performance. Lakers/UCLA stans will be doing it all season I'm sure
Ninja Scooter
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Since it will probably take him 5 years to play 82 games I think he still counts.
Peter Ian Staker
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Simmons is a lock for ROTY.
Sixers ain't fucking around this time. They know he can't shoot so they will give him the ball all the time so he can fill the stat sheet with drives and dimes.
His usage rate will be Westbrook-esque.
Sixers ain't fucking around this time. They know he can't shoot so they will give him the ball all the time so he can fill the stat sheet with drives and dimes.
His usage rate will be Westbrook-esque.
I get it... But is it really that satisfying that someone of Beverly's defensive status gave a rookie in his first game fits? I mean he didn't rattle lonzo and dude's stat line would've looked better if his teammates could throw a Pebble in the ocean.
Like... I've seen LeBron get shitty because kawhi checked back into the game.
But maybe it isn't time to be realistic.
Like... I've seen LeBron get shitty because kawhi checked back into the game.
But maybe it isn't time to be realistic.
LyleLanley
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It was very satisfying.
From Beverly's point of view. I don't really expect fans to be rational.
That's why he sat out the 4th, cause he wasn't rattled. Luke had to hold him back out of solidarity for LA's other team.
perfectchaos007
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You must have missed the annoying as fuck hype show him and his family and ESPN have been putting on the past 12 months. He'll be decent in the NBA eventually but right now he's just an overrated and over hyped rookie that was exposed tonight. As a non-Laker fan it was cathartic.
RedAssedApe
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Nice to know where you stand. Explains things at least lol
You sound irrational and I stayed away from it because I know hype doesn't translate to on the court progress. Not to mention it wasn't really lonzo getting y'all in your feelings.
This is stupid. Game was lost some dude already sat out the preseason with an injury.
LyleLanley
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All of Ingram's highlights:
RedAssedApe
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Ok this one actually made me laugh
Hyperactivity
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Also yeah, it's always satisfying to see Bev do his thing, especially against a top drafted rookie point guard with a ton of hype, given what his path to the NBA was.
https://twitter.com/espnstatsinfo/status/921238995152994305
EDIT: Like I thought, it's not actually personal, Bev will just use anything to get himself fired up:
In any case, Ingram should be the far bigger concern for Lakers fans.
https://twitter.com/espnstatsinfo/status/921238995152994305
ESPN Stats and Info said:
EDIT: Like I thought, it's not actually personal, Bev will just use anything to get himself fired up:
Kurt Helin said:
In any case, Ingram should be the far bigger concern for Lakers fans.
Officerrob
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If I'm Patrick Beverly, I'd be having my lawyer write up a restraining order right about now
Hyperactivity
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He's gotten death threats from (OKC) fans before.
I'm not even a Laker's fan but wtf lol. Beverly's a great defender but what's the point of acting hard defending a below mediocre Laker's team, and a rookie in his first NBA game. Because his dad talked big and said outlandish things? I mean did anyone on this forum besides FZZ believe a word that came out of his mouth lol.
But yea, THIS just sounds childish lol.
Edit: Maybe I'm missing something. I never took anything his dad said seriously. Maybe NBA players did, and maybe some like Beverly took it personally.
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LyleLanley
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Bonus Randle highlight: https://streamable.com/tij8q
Megatron
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And no matter how bad they suck, neither the Nets nor Lakers get their draft pick this year.
Markell is the only guy they couldn't take. Despite KG and Shaw repeatedly calling Ball the number one pick tonight, he was in fact number two. Fultz was already gone when the Lakers picked,
Tatum looks good, but man, a lot of rookies look good. Simmons, Fox, DSJ. And we can't completely count out Ball and Fultz figuring things out. Nice to finally have a really strong rookie class after so many bad ones,
Diprosalic
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more like Jeremy Lin while injured lite.
Assessment:
Lonzo didn't have a bad game, but he sure as hell did not have a good game either. He looked confident out there and held his own, he gave 4 or 5 on the money passes, 3 of which were easy layups that team mates just missed. I don't wanna count the other ones because those were jump shots and it wasn't a guaranteed basket like the fucking layup Ingram missed (Dlo had the exact same problem for the past two years as well, our team fucking sucks). He needs to go for more shots, he's a lot faster than people give him credit for, and a lot faster than he probably gives himself credit for. Dude paced the court well, just do what you did against Philly in the SL game man, the lane was open just drive it in.
For a first team all defensive player that wanted to go at a rookie PG getting one steal and two defensive fouls is fucking funny. Reading through this thread and reddit is even more cringe, anyone who watched the game can see Beverly wasn't able to lock him down. And the highlight being posted of Lonzo "being welcomed to the league" which conveniently avoids Lonzo pushing Beverly off and Bev flopping has me rolling my eyes. Kid is 19 and blew by him on three plays one of which he crossed him up, and Lonzo doesn't even have solid handles.
Luke's rotations are fucking infuriating why did Kuzma and Lonzo only play a fucking minute together, why the fuck did our starting lineup have no shooters, why the fuck did Deng start, why the fuck did Brewer get so many minutes during important moments during the game? Look at Lonzo at UCLA or Chino Hills, he is so much more effective offensively off ball through cuts, or catch and shoot threes. It's why I wanted to keep Dlo, our back court would have been fucking legit. Instead we have some frankenstein non offense where our most reliable scoring option is Jordan Clarkson.
Ingram...I love him, but this is exactly what I was talking about in the preseason thread when I said he might clash with the offense we want to run (although today I don't even think we ran a proper offense). He gets the ball and just ISOs, the one play that looked really good for him was when he got a head of steam, got the ball off a pass, took a dribble and finished. Ingram is much more effective with set plays being run for him, seeing him constantly ISO like he's fucking Melo out there is so painful to watch. He has all the tools and the skill set but it seems like we are failing him and not utilizing it properly.
Overall, it was an awful game. No way around it. I want to see more effort, better rotations, maintain defense for more than a half, and having actual set offensive plays. Excited for tomorrow, but rather than hyping myself for one player I just want the W which is what I was about for SL, and what I'm gonna be about for the regular season.
Lonzo didn't have a bad game, but he sure as hell did not have a good game either. He looked confident out there and held his own, he gave 4 or 5 on the money passes, 3 of which were easy layups that team mates just missed. I don't wanna count the other ones because those were jump shots and it wasn't a guaranteed basket like the fucking layup Ingram missed (Dlo had the exact same problem for the past two years as well, our team fucking sucks). He needs to go for more shots, he's a lot faster than people give him credit for, and a lot faster than he probably gives himself credit for. Dude paced the court well, just do what you did against Philly in the SL game man, the lane was open just drive it in.
For a first team all defensive player that wanted to go at a rookie PG getting one steal and two defensive fouls is fucking funny. Reading through this thread and reddit is even more cringe, anyone who watched the game can see Beverly wasn't able to lock him down. And the highlight being posted of Lonzo "being welcomed to the league" which conveniently avoids Lonzo pushing Beverly off and Bev flopping has me rolling my eyes. Kid is 19 and blew by him on three plays one of which he crossed him up, and Lonzo doesn't even have solid handles.
Luke's rotations are fucking infuriating why did Kuzma and Lonzo only play a fucking minute together, why the fuck did our starting lineup have no shooters, why the fuck did Deng start, why the fuck did Brewer get so many minutes during important moments during the game? Look at Lonzo at UCLA or Chino Hills, he is so much more effective offensively off ball through cuts, or catch and shoot threes. It's why I wanted to keep Dlo, our back court would have been fucking legit. Instead we have some frankenstein non offense where our most reliable scoring option is Jordan Clarkson.
Ingram...I love him, but this is exactly what I was talking about in the preseason thread when I said he might clash with the offense we want to run (although today I don't even think we ran a proper offense). He gets the ball and just ISOs, the one play that looked really good for him was when he got a head of steam, got the ball off a pass, took a dribble and finished. Ingram is much more effective with set plays being run for him, seeing him constantly ISO like he's fucking Melo out there is so painful to watch. He has all the tools and the skill set but it seems like we are failing him and not utilizing it properly.
Overall, it was an awful game. No way around it. I want to see more effort, better rotations, maintain defense for more than a half, and having actual set offensive plays. Excited for tomorrow, but rather than hyping myself for one player I just want the W which is what I was about for SL, and what I'm gonna be about for the regular season.
Doing it! 😜🙃
Jack The Nipper
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Seems lonzo was rattled, definitely looked like it in the game. He was mentally out. May take him a while to shake that. with what Beverly did and already likely being nervous on the first game.
Guess he better get use to it for a while
Guess he better get use to it for a while
he did have 9 rebounds, which means he's pretty active. and the fuck is ingram's / lopez fg%.
RedAssedApe
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Hyperactivity
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johancruijff
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How can you hate this man
LaVar Ball fires back after Patrick Beverley's presumed shot at Lonzo Ball
Tankwatch on the Lakers is gonna be fun
LaVar Ball fires back after Patrick Beverley's presumed shot at Lonzo Ball
Tankwatch on the Lakers is gonna be fun
RedAssedApe
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Not really. Game was over by then. They have a back to back. Coming off an ankle thing that set him back two weeks. They probably just erring on the side of caution.
Martylepiaf
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Lonzo was 0/2 on the free throw line, and according to Celtics after Markelle first game fans that means you're a bust
That draft wasn't that good it's disappointing
That draft wasn't that good it's disappointing