entremet
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http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/05/health/ships-outbreak/index.html
What's up with these cruise ship disasters of late?
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Nearly 500 on 2 cruise ships struck by norovirus (CNN)
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http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/05/health/ships-outbreak/index.html
What's up with these cruise ship disasters of late?
civilstrife
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God is preparing for the end times in December and want to eliminate the ark loophole this time.
Krauser Kat
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Because they aren't. Thud I'd just a string on bad luck
GoldenEye 007
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No it isn't? Same phenomena as airline travel. One crash in the headlines or even a string of them and people think they are incredibly unsafe overall when in fact they are one of the safest forms of travel available.
NekoFever
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What? No it's not.
This is what we call confirmation bias guys.
Lactose_Intolerant
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The viruses are found in the vomit and stool of infected people. You can get it by
Eating food or drinking liquids that are contaminated with norovirus (someone gets stool or vomit on their hands, then touches food or drink).
Touching surfaces or objects contaminated with norovirus and then putting your hand or fingers in your mouth.
Having direct contact with a person who is infected with norovirus (for example, when caring for someone with norovirus or sharing foods or eating utensils with them).
People with norovirus illness are contagious from the moment they begin feeling sick until at least 3 days after they recover. But, some people may be contagious for even longer.
Too much pooping going on cruise ships.
Eating food or drinking liquids that are contaminated with norovirus (someone gets stool or vomit on their hands, then touches food or drink).
Touching surfaces or objects contaminated with norovirus and then putting your hand or fingers in your mouth.
Having direct contact with a person who is infected with norovirus (for example, when caring for someone with norovirus or sharing foods or eating utensils with them).
People with norovirus illness are contagious from the moment they begin feeling sick until at least 3 days after they recover. But, some people may be contagious for even longer.
Too much pooping going on cruise ships.
They're not dangerous as in, you might die from a crash, but they are typically very unsanitary. Here's a list of outbreaks on cruise ships per year:
http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/surv/GIlist.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/surv/GIlist.htm
bobbychalkers
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Uhhh... I guess I'm a media puppet then, huh? Pft.
I don't see any reason why someone right in the head would go out in open sea inside a box with hundreds of others for days or even weeks. Since I was a freaking kid that always seemed like a terrible idea for me, and the fact that shit like this happens just confirms that my common sense wasn't off even back then.
This is what we call juvenile unnecessary condescendence, guys.
I hope they did it in the utmost ridiculous hollywood kind of way. You know, helicopters, soldiers with gas masks, flamethrowers.... just the whole package.
OpinionatedCyborg
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enjoy living in your bubble
btw, you could get SPYWARE OR A VIRUS VIA ONE OF THE ADS ON THE INTERNET OMFG LOG OFF MOTHERFUCKA
As stated, the only thing being confirmed is your bias
I wonder if you guys really believe that being condescending on the internet makes you look smart.
And I find it quite funny that you tell me to "enjoy living in a bubble" when you're trying to defend cruise ships.
I have a bias against unnecessary risks, yeah.
CrocMother
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Wait, you're serious?
Being confined in a living situation with a lot of strangers from around the world, sharing communal facilities and all that? Yeah it's risky. I am always hearing about cruise sickness. They really need to enforce a culture of cleanliness and awareness of communicable illness. No not washing your hands after using the bathroom because you think you're clean, and then going to eat at the buffet. Ship crews need to double clean everything, not just do a half job because business is good and you're super busy and you'll be doing the same thing tomorrow.
Immune systems are weak for the people who are on these cruises, often times retirees and such, plus you have people bringing organisms from areas where people may not be accustomed to them. The risk factors increase, but they can do something about it, other than counting their money.
100% chance someone infected others by not using good hygiene themselves.
Immune systems are weak for the people who are on these cruises, often times retirees and such, plus you have people bringing organisms from areas where people may not be accustomed to them. The risk factors increase, but they can do something about it, other than counting their money.
100% chance someone infected others by not using good hygiene themselves.
PhoenixDark
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If all this cruise disaster shit translates into underwater trains becoming a reality I'm all for it
People do lots of things that are dangerous because...fuck if I know. It's not so much the danger as it is me not wanting to be in a cramped area with a ton of other people. Though I'll admit the idea of floating out in open water for no reason at all doesn't appeal to me. I can't think of anything on a cruise that I can't do by myself.
astroturfing
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any time you step into a car you're taking a far bigger risk than anyone on a cruise ship ride.
About what?
About the fact that I don't think people look smart on the internet by being condescending, yeah.
About the fact that I dislike cruise ships, yes.
And about the fact that I find offensive that in a minute after I post people sprung up out of nowhere to mob me and point out how "wrong" my beliefs are instead of simply answering the freaking question I asked, yeah.
I guess, but I have reasons to get in a car... While I don't understand which unique pleasures cruise ship trips offer me the could outweight the dangers.
This is exactly where I'm coming from. I wanna know what people find appealing about cruise ship trips, because I just honestly don't have a clue on why they take them.
Good Job Bob
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Tell your mom I said "Hello!".
Freakinchair
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People with the Norovirus get quarantined to their rooms (usually). But people are retarded and don't give a fuck and probably sneak out and infect other people. In any case you can infect people before you even realize your sick which is where most of the outbreak comes from.
Cruise lines take ridiculous precautions to prevent outbreaks like this. Literally everywhere you go they have people with alcohol solution to squirt into your hand. They have people constantly cleaning the most walked paths (wiping the railings etc...). Sucks that cruising is getting such a bad wrap from all this. I don't mind though because hopefully the prices will go down as a result.
Ignis Fatuus
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CrocMother
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Cruise ships are where the government sends those it chooses at death panels.
FREE CRUISE GRANDMA!!
I'm being 'condescending' because this is the same line of thinking that results in irrational fear of planes for example. Also the same line of thinking that people use when they want to get rid of welfare and social safety nets because of welfare queens. And no, I'm not saying you think that. Your fear isn't supported by any statistical evidence. Sure you can say cruises don't appeal to you and that's fine, they don't appeal to me either but to think they're significantly more dangerous than living in a normal city is not supported by any evidence.
krameriffic
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To all the unnecessary risks folks, I give you the immortal words of George Carlin:
"You need a little danger in your life! What are you gonna do, play with your prick for another 30 years? Read People magazine and eat at Wendy's til the end of time? Take a fuckin' chance!"
"You need a little danger in your life! What are you gonna do, play with your prick for another 30 years? Read People magazine and eat at Wendy's til the end of time? Take a fuckin' chance!"
OpinionatedCyborg
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If I cared about looking smart on the internet I wouldn't post as much shit as I do.
shitty analogy btw
you suck at calculating risks. do you also not drive, take planes, visit relatives in hospitals, swim in the ocean, visit another country, stay in hotel rooms, eat at restaurants, etc.? people are being condescending because you come off as a nutcase. but if you are happy eating your plain oatmeal and never leaving your room, then more power to you.
"Being in a cramped place with a lot of people" as a fear must be debilitating. Rules out churches, hospitals, restaurants, grocery stores, malls, and so on. That's without mentioning vehicles at all.
Sounds like good times to me. I don't need to jump off a bridge or take a disease voyage out to the center of the atlantic ocean to have fun.
Reminds me of
Children of Men, the book. They would drug old people, put them on a ship, then sink it.
jamesinclair
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And what you do for fun is?
Fair enough.
I laughed.
I do all of those things all the time.
But as I mentioned in my previous post, I was actually asking people:
Because:
BertramCooper
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The unique pleasure is being on a cruise ship.
There are hundreds of cruises every freaking week and yes there could be an outbreak on a few boats during a year. Doesn't make it any worse than going to work every day or anything else in this world. I've been on three cruises already and going on my fourth in March. Never had a problem with sickness or outbreaks.
If I'm reading that right, only 14 cruises all last year?
That's considerably better than I would have guessed.
EDIT: not too mention one of the big lines out of here, Carnival, seems to appear very infrequently.
Only confirms my belief that im more than happy taking my chances on a cruise ship. Especially considering our chances we take on our normal daily lives.
Everything is cool in the mid to late 90's. Then the cases skyrocket in 2002 and beyond. Wonder why that is?
Zoe
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How would an underwater train be anything like a cruise?
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