NeoGAF Arcade Stick Thread

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Teknoman said:
Day 4 and still no Standard Edition stick problems. Granted i've only been messing around in XBLA games, SFII Hyper Fighting, and the HDR trial...so i really havent gotten into any heated matches yet...but still so far so good.
Out of curiosity where did you get your stick from?
 
Teknoman said:
Day 4 and still no Standard Edition stick problems. Granted i've only been messing around in XBLA games, SFII Hyper Fighting, and the HDR trial...so i really havent gotten into any heated matches yet...but still so far so good.
Oh thanks for telling us, I might not switch after all then.
 
viewtiful_dru said:
Akuma's teleport in 3S is done with 2 punch buttons, not 3
hmm interesting.. also, in 3S when I pull up the input test screen it seems to read all my button pushes even if I'm hitting all 6 buttons simultaneously.
 
Linkhero1 said:
Out of curiosity where did you get your stick from?

Gamestop. I work at one (Just a gaming advisor/cashier guy) but we only got 4 in stock. Just picked one and went with it. Did reserve it though...just hoping the stick doesnt mess up after a few SFIV matches. Thats when it'll really get put through it's paces.
 
Teknoman said:
Gamestop. I work at one (Just a gaming advisor/cashier guy) but we only got 4 in stock. Just picked one and went with it.
Nice. I can't wait for mine. I'm gonna play the shit out of it until it breaks and then replace stock parts with sanwa :lol
 
purg3 said:
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came in today, just waiting for my buttons from LizardLick and i'll be set.
I think you may have to do some soldering. I think I read somewhere that the HRAP EX's buttons and stick are soldered as opposed to the quick disconnects on the HRAP3.
 
Linkhero1 said:
Nice. I can't wait for mine. I'm gonna play the shit out of it until it breaks and then replace stock parts with sanwa :lol

I'll probably end up doing the same. Not that I want/think it will break after constant use...but at least it'll give me a good mod start the way its set up with disconnects.
 
polyh3dron said:
I think you may have to do some soldering. I think I read somewhere that the HRAP EX's buttons and stick are soldered as opposed to the quick disconnects on the HRAP3.
buttons are quick disconnect, while the stick is soldered. Stick is already Sanwa so buttons are all that need to be swapped out.

Teknoman said:
I'll probably end up doing the same. Not that I want/think it will break after constant use...but at least it'll give me a good mod star,t the way its set up with disconnects.
It'll be the first stick I ever mod. Hopefully I learn a lot from messing around with it.
 
Poimandres said:
Alright... I find myself in this very situation. Is there any chance of getting a SFIV TE ordered into Australia anytime in the next couple of months if I don't have a pre-order already?

JB just opened up pre-orders for the 360 version in April... Pretty sure the PS3 one will be the same price.
 
Where can I buy an arcade stick in the Toronto area? I'm looking for the Hori EX 3 that is 60 bucks from amazon.ca but they are out of stock =/

I'd prefer to not go to Pacific Mall
 
Teknoman said:
Day 4 and still no Standard Edition stick problems. Granted i've only been messing around in XBLA games, SFII Hyper Fighting, and the HDR trial...so i really havent gotten into any heated matches yet...but still so far so good.

I just tested my SE stick 10 minutes ago. Was pulling moves off flawlessly. Then my cousin told me to try and do Ryu's Super from the right side, no dice unless i do it slowly. grrrr. Such a nice looking stick and I want to keep it, but im going to return it now.
 
blah! well my sf4 se stick just crapped out! the two last buttons on the bottom row do not work anymore! i swear i think i used it for a total of 3-4 hours.. this sucks!
 
Giant Robot said:
I just tested my SE stick 10 minutes ago. Was pulling moves off flawlessly. Then my cousin told me to try and do Ryu's Super from the right side, no dice unless i do it slowly. grrrr. Such a nice looking stick and I want to keep it, but im going to return it now.

i dont get it, whats the problem? that you werent instantly able to do a double qcf from the right? sounds normal to me..
 
Giant Robot said:
I just tested my SE stick 10 minutes ago. Was pulling moves off flawlessly. Then my cousin told me to try and do Ryu's Super from the right side, no dice unless i do it slowly. grrrr. Such a nice looking stick and I want to keep it, but im going to return it now.

:lol :lol :lol
 
yea, cause i suck and cant pull off supers on the right side. hahahha. Just overreacted and dissapointed that I overlooked the price in modding it.
 
Giant Robot said:
yea, cause i suck and cant pull off supers on the right side. hahahha. Just overreacted and dissapointed that I overlooked the price in modding it.

u just need practice. its not the sticks fault, im still getting used to the square gate. if anything you could just buy the octagonal gate. how much could it possibly cost.
 
Ok this is stupid, a few people are canceling preorders of SE stick over a video and some complainers, obviously we don't know how widespread actually is, that and people who have stuff that's broken make their voice heard louder than those who don't. Canceling is fine I have no problem with that but to cancel the preorder for an HRAP-EX WHEN YOUR GOING TO MOD YOUR STICK ANYWAYS IS RETARDED. I shouldn't say retarded, if you don't like the shell then well you don't like it shouldn't have preordered a SE in the first place anyway. If you're planning to get a HRAP-EX to not go thru the trouble of modding yeah thats fine too I understand you, get it or get the cheaper hori EX-2(which is a POS but better than the 360 dpad).

If you don't mind modding your stick:
(Prices from lizardlick before shippping also didn't include any kinds of taxes)
SE Fightstick w/Sanwa stick = $79.99 + 24.95 = $104.94
Hori HRAP-EX (only has Sanwa stick, buttons = HORI) = $ 129.99

SE Fightstick w/Sanwa stick and buttons = $79.99 + 24.95 + 23.60 = $128.54
Hori HRAP-EXw/Sanwa buttons = $129.99 + 23.60 = $153.59

Fake EDIT: This was not a direct shot to anyone in particular just the mass posts in both official sf4 thread and this one. And my original post was at least 3 times longer. I figure my patience is just running real f--cking thin waiting for the game/stick.
 
jam86 said:
If you don't mind modding your stick:
(Prices from lizardlick before shippping also didn't include any kinds of taxes)
SE Fightstick w/Sanwa stick = $79.99 + 24.95 = $104.94
Hori HRAP-EX (only has Sanwa stick, buttons = HORI) = $ 129.99

SE Fightstick w/Sanwa stick and buttons = $79.99 + 24.95 + 23.60 = $128.54
Hori HRAP-EXw/Sanwa buttons = $129.99 + 23.60 = $153.59

These prices are only for Americans. Us Europeans would end up paying something like double the normal stick price in order to mod it.
 
jam86 said:
Ok this is stupid, a few people are canceling preorders of SE stick over a video and some complainers, obviously we don't know how widespread actually is, that and people who have stuff that's broken make their voice heard louder than those who don't. Canceling is fine I have no problem with that but to cancel the preorder for an HRAP-EX WHEN YOUR GOING TO MOD YOUR STICK ANYWAYS IS RETARDED. I shouldn't say retarded, if you don't like the shell then well you don't like it shouldn't have preordered a SE in the first place anyway. If you're planning to get a HRAP-EX to not go thru the trouble of modding yeah thats fine too I understand you, get it or get the cheaper hori EX-2(which is a POS but better than the 360 dpad).

If you don't mind modding your stick:
(Prices from lizardlick before shippping also didn't include any kinds of taxes)
SE Fightstick w/Sanwa stick = $79.99 + 24.95 = $104.94
Hori HRAP-EX (only has Sanwa stick, buttons = HORI) = $ 129.99

SE Fightstick w/Sanwa stick and buttons = $79.99 + 24.95 + 23.60 = $128.54
Hori HRAP-EXw/Sanwa buttons = $129.99 + 23.60 = $153.59

Fake EDIT: This was not a direct shot to anyone in particular just the mass posts in both official sf4 thread and this one. And my original post was at least 3 times longer. I figure my patience is just running real f--cking thin waiting for the game/stick.
I'm keeping my SE, but I might have a reason why people are doing this. SF IV comes out this week and people want their stick as quick as possible. If they get a SE stick and it ends up crapping out on them before they have SF IV or even get a chance to play it with the stick they'd be pretty pissed off. They don't want to take that risk. Then they would have to send it to Madcatz to fix and it would be a while before they can play with it. I agree that modding a SE fightstick is better, but some people just want to play with the stock parts too. I bought mine in order to mod it though.
 
Wait what, I just read a couple of pages and so the SE stick ain't that great?

I ordered the SE and TE one, first sticks ever and ordered them both for some multiplayer action at home. But now I have some serious doubts about the SE stick order. I know the TE is overkill for first time player but heck I'm hyped for SF and if I do something I want to do it right.

My problem now is I could order something else but I would have to import it, I'm from the Netherlands and sticks aren't really available here as far as I know, but that would cost me a lot more I guess (shipping and the weight).

What to do? If the stick is faulty I could always return it and I read that the warranty is longer in Europe. Modding isn't really a option, no experience with that. Or cancel the order and forget about the multiplayer or dont eat for a month and buy another TE.. Oh jeez, SF what are you doing to me.

SE stick is 80 euro here and the TE is 150.
 
Well, I finally got my Seimitsu LS-56 stick into the TE. I had to drill holes into the mounting plate with a 7/64 drill bit.

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Tada! It fits perfectly now. =) That's the stock JLF in the back.

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Screwed on the bat top, tightened the springs inside the actuator for a way tighter feel, and now it's good to go!

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jam86 said:
Ok this is stupid, a few people are canceling preorders of SE stick over a video and some complainers, obviously we don't know how widespread actually is, that and people who have stuff that's broken make their voice heard louder than those who don't. Canceling is fine I have no problem with that but to cancel the preorder for an HRAP-EX WHEN YOUR GOING TO MOD YOUR STICK ANYWAYS IS RETARDED. I shouldn't say retarded, if you don't like the shell then well you don't like it shouldn't have preordered a SE in the first place anyway. If you're planning to get a HRAP-EX to not go thru the trouble of modding yeah thats fine too I understand you, get it or get the cheaper hori EX-2(which is a POS but better than the 360 dpad).

If you don't mind modding your stick:
(Prices from lizardlick before shippping also didn't include any kinds of taxes)
SE Fightstick w/Sanwa stick = $79.99 + 24.95 = $104.94
Hori HRAP-EX (only has Sanwa stick, buttons = HORI) = $ 129.99

SE Fightstick w/Sanwa stick and buttons = $79.99 + 24.95 + 23.60 = $128.54
Hori HRAP-EXw/Sanwa buttons = $129.99 + 23.60 = $153.59

Fake EDIT: This was not a direct shot to anyone in particular just the mass posts in both official sf4 thread and this one. And my original post was at least 3 times longer. I figure my patience is just running real f--cking thin waiting for the game/stick.
With tax from Gamestop for the SE it came out to almost $87, it's not that big of a difference in price, but I don't plan on buyin' any Sanwa buttons, but it's almost a necessity to get a Sanwa stick with the SE.

$87 +$31 (shipping for stick, it's not $24.95) = $118
$129.99 = $129.99

I figured for the extra $10 or so, I'd rather have the HRAP EX, since I prefer the look, size, and weight of the EX over the SE.
 
Linkhero1 said:
buttons are quick disconnect, while the stick is soldered. Stick is already Sanwa so buttons are all that need to be swapped out.
oh that makes sense then... why make the stick quick disconnect when it's Sanwa already.
 
just finished my TE artwork. :D

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going to bed. will apply and post pics later. characters I added are the ones I plan on using pretty much exclusively. with Crimson being my hopeful main.
 
If you have bad execution, no matter how good the stick is you're really going to struggle. Especially if you've only just started with stick.

Practice practice practice !!!!!

Yes, doing moves from the 1P/2P side is a common problem when jumping on to a stick.
 
zewone said:
With tax from Gamestop for the SE it came out to almost $87, it's not that big of a difference in price, but I don't plan on buyin' any Sanwa buttons, but it's almost a necessity to get a Sanwa stick with the SE.

$87 +$31 (shipping for stick, it's not $24.95) = $118
$129.99 = $129.99

I figured for the extra $10 or so, I'd rather have the HRAP EX, since I prefer the look, size, and weight of the EX over the SE.

I didn't include tax/shipping for a reason, it's different for everyone.
If you buy the SE online through amazon, it's $79.99 no shipping.
$79.99 + $31(my shipping is slightly cheaper but i'll use yours as a reference) = $110.99

Regardless it's only a $19 difference, but it can go towards for other things, cover art printing, push buttons, the actual game, DLC, energy drinks etc. If you prefer the EX shell that's fine, I said so in my original post, I made the post from people canceling their SE preorder but were planning to mod them out with sanwa/Seimitsu anyway and saying it was just cheaper to mod the HRAP-EX with buttons than it was to the fully mod the SE.

Now I realize alot of people want a nice entry level stick or want a stick to tide them over until their TE stick arrives, and hastily canceled their preorder for the SE. Personally I'm gonna wait until there's more impressions when more people actually have their stick, not everyone who has a stick is on SRK or GAF, and basically from what i can see if someone posts good impressions it's overshadowed by someone posting bad impressions followed by a ton of freak out posts (OMG HE SAID THE STICKS ARE BORKEN!!!1 CANCEL!!)
 
So I played about a good 20 hours of stick busting SF2:HD, and no problems with my stock SE fightstick since I got.

I really do think people have nothing to worry about, as long you get one that doesn't give you shit in the first few hours you should be fine.

(people having issues with their fightsticks notice them essentially right off the bat).

PS: I'm still getting a Sawna joystick (a game repair shop has some in stock so I don't have to worry about ordering etc.) Just take it over there and the guy will install it for me for free. I'm sure the sawna parts are over-priced there a bit so he's not complainig.
 
My stick issues I hardly noticed,that could be because I'm a noob at this stuff.I think it might have barely stuck on me once,but I wasn't really having any issues that affected gameplay other than the fact that I suck at using the stick.I only opened mine up because I already have a Sanwa stick coming and I was curious about all the parts because this will be my first time modding.I had planned on modding even before these issues came up.

I just wanted to get familiar with everything inside and like I said in one of my older posts a few pages back I was shocked that my PCB looked the way it did considering I wasn't having major problems with the stick like the guy in the giantbomb video.Once I got inside,it was pretty obvious the washer was destroying the PCB.

I don't believe everyone has this problem.Though just cause you don't notice it right away or the stick isn't sticking doesn't mean that it's not being f-ed up,since the washers don't seem to fit right/and are not glued down.
 
Is there any place you can still get the sticks from in the UK? (I know it might of been brought up already but this is a long topic) As it seems like the jab button on my old Hori just got loose and I've not idea what to do about it.
 
These are my impressions of the TE stick (also posted in the SFIV thread)

So last night I fired up the TE stick for the first time.

First a little history. A long time ago I used to be an arcade tech (around the time of Super) and I was a big fan of the Bat with 6 buttons. However once the Sega Saturn came out I switched my preference to that godly controller (I mean the OG one not the redesigned Japanese one) and used it on every system since including the 360.

When I was in the arcade I used to have difficulty pulling off moves when my player was facing left...this could be the reason I started to prefer the pad in the first place.

Anyhow the TE stick ball top felt good in the hand and the buttons are super sensitive. I was able to play and do almost everything I wanted to (360s and supers were hit or miss) and feel that given time I will be able to get back on the stick train.

The TE stick is a fantastic piece of hardware and I look forward to trying out Street Fighter 4 with it later today!

:D
 
Alski said:
In order of most popular, or quality how would you rank these parts?

sumitsu
swana
happ
Stay clear of Sumitsu and Swana, they are both FAKE BRANDS!

Edit: What Lee N said, although I'm more of a Seimitsu kind of guy..
 
Alski said:
In order of most popular, or quality how would you rank these parts?

seimitsu
sanwa
happ
Sanwa/Seimtisu >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Happ

I like Sanwa because that's what I'm used to, Seimitsu is fine too though.

Happ I really don't like.
 
So what are the chances of finding a TE stick in the wild today... are any stores selling them with out preorders? Has anyone seen them @ Best Buy? I know the site says online only, but it says that for the controllers too and everyone's Best Buys eemed to have had them...
 
bob_arctor said:
Just emailed Lizard Lick with this very question in regards to the SE stick. I'll post whenever they reply.

Okay, so Chad @ LL confirmed that you'd have to rotate the PCB on their JLF-TP-8T to match the stock stick. Which wouldn't be a big deal except that I gutted my SE last night and tried taking off the gate by pushing in those black tabs and HOLYFUCK was that a pain in the ass. I only managed one and this from sheer brute force and not caring since I was tossing the stick anyway.

So yeah, Seimitsu LS-32-01 it is. Much easier to access the PCB from what I can see.
 
Do arcade sticks actually exist in the UK?
I've looked in stores as well as online sites like Amazon, Play, etc with no luck at all.

Would like one for SF IV :(
 
Cronen said:
Do arcade sticks actually exist in the UK?
I've looked in stores as well as online sites like Amazon, Play, etc with no luck at all.

Would like one for SF IV :(
That's because they're all out of stock now. They were available yesterday.
 
bob_arctor said:
Okay, so Chad @ LL confirmed that you'd have to rotate the PCB on their JLF-TP-8T to match the stock stick. Which wouldn't be a big deal except that I gutted my SE last night and tried taking off the gate by pushing in those black tabs and HOLYFUCK was that a pain in the ass. I only managed one and this from sheer brute force and not caring since I was tossing the stick anyway.

So yeah, Seimitsu LS-32-01 it is. Much easier to access the PCB from what I can see.

The restrictor plate should come off sooooo much easier on the JLF than the one that's on the stock stick.The stock stick one felt like it was practically glued on.

I'm shocked you were able to get it over one tab without using a flat head,that was the only way I could get it off at all.
 
jam86 said:
Now I realize alot of people want a nice entry level stick or want a stick to tide them over until their TE stick arrives, and hastily canceled their preorder for the SE. Personally I'm gonna wait until there's more impressions when more people actually have their stick, not everyone who has a stick is on SRK or GAF, and basically from what i can see if someone posts good impressions it's overshadowed by someone posting bad impressions followed by a ton of freak out posts (OMG HE SAID THE STICKS ARE BORKEN!!!1 CANCEL!!)
As one of those who canceled their SE order, it came down to the fact I wasn't really looking to swap out the stock stick right away. The likelihood of having to order a new sanwa part, plus shipping on that. Having to order new buttons. Getting to wait longer... It stopped making much sense.
 
Matrix said:
The restrictor plate should come off sooooo much easier on the JLF than the one that's on the stock stick.The stock stick one felt like it was practically glued on.

I'm shocked you were able to get it over one tab without using a flat head,that was the only way I could get it off at all.

heh Just saw a video of someone taking it off. In seconds. So yeah, definitely easier--and easier than the Seimitsu actually. So now I'm just deciding if I want to try out the latter--I've only ever played with Sanwas on my HRAP's.
 
So I own a HRAP EX. Buttons are covered. But I would like to replace the ball top with a bat top. Does that require any soldering skills? Or it is just unscrewing the ball top? It doesn't appear that I could unscrew the ball top without opening the enclosure. It that right?
 
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