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[Teknopathetic]

"unless you're not buying a sanwa stick/lever... which is kinda "

HRAP3s have a Sanwa JLF, just has Hori buttons.


"Yeah mark, the PS3 TE stick will support PC like someone asked, won't it? Please answer this!"

He's said before it will. 360 one as well.

 

[JEKKI]

ahh that's craziness!!

and ignorance too, lol.

:gives my joystick card away:

I'll be back for it later btw...

 

[haunts]

I just got crucified on SRK for thinking the HRAP3 had a stock HORI stick in it or someting. Glad im not the only one who thought this. :lol

More specifically, I played on the HRAP3 not too long ago and I didnt like it. Im not sure what the deal is because I have two hrap2 that have the exact same stick in them and they feel a lot more responsive. This same session we were playing with a VSHG which also has the same stick and it felt a lot more responsive as well. Im not sure if this stick I was playing on had just been used a lot or what the deal was but I was convinced it was something besides a sanwa.

Even more than that though I just dont like the build quality of it, namely the top. It has a weird flimsy feel to it. I wish they would have used the mirror top like on the older HRAPs. :\

 

[frogg609]

HRAPEX has a strange button layout. RT and LT are closest to the stick instead of the normal ABXY face buttons. If you swap them for Sanwas you can rewire them to your liking though. The SF4 TE look to be the best North American retail sticks out of the box, which is why everyone is so excited.

Ordered the TE from Amazon for the 360. Can't wait.

 

[Mr Jared]

Well, here's my "completed" Hori EX2 mod.

PS: It doesn't work. I managed to solder off the metal connectors when removing the original buttons. Is there any way to replace those or am I totally hosed? I'm not sure if I want to buy another and try again ... This was a learning process to be sure, so I could do it a hell of a lot better next time ... still, pretty depressed that I am now HD Remix-less for the next week or so.

 

[Spiderjericho]

Well, it looks nice.

 

[Mr Jared]

Well, it looks nice.

Yes. It is the most manly paper weight I'll ever own.

I'm going to go eat away my pain at McDonalds now.

Spoiler

srysly

 

[sixteen-bit]

Well, here's my "completed" Hori EX2 mod.

PS: It doesn't work. I managed to solder off the metal connectors when removing the original buttons. Is there any way to replace those or am I totally hosed? I'm not sure if I want to buy another and try again ... This was a learning process to be sure, so I could do it a hell of a lot better next time ... still, pretty depressed that I am now HD Remix-less for the next week or so.

yeah it sucks.

My EX2 worked perfectly fine initially but eventually the buttons stopped working in pairs The PCB totally sucks. My HRAPEX is serving me much better. Way less of a hassle to mod an no soldering.

 

[haunts]

yeah it sucks.

My EX2 worked initially but eventually the buttons stopped working in pairs. My HRAPEX is much better. Way less of a hassle to mod an no soldering.

Is that just a different ball top you put on the stick ?

 

[CPS2]

Well, here's my "completed" Hori EX2 mod.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3142/3070346140_407f2d343d.jpg

PS: It doesn't work. I managed to solder off the metal connectors when removing the original buttons. Is there any way to replace those or am I totally hosed? I'm not sure if I want to buy another and try again ... This was a learning process to be sure, so I could do it a hell of a lot better next time ... still, pretty depressed that I am now HD Remix-less for the next week or so.

If all else fails, chuck a cthulhu pcb in there. Other than that, might have to fork out for a wired 360 controller.

 

[Nikorasu]

Where can I preorder these in Canada? D: Halp!

Okay, let me try again: When can I preorder these in Canada?

Well, it looks nice.

This is true.
Even though I totally freaked out when I thought I messed up the seimitsu button contacts beyond repair it worked fine, but mine is artless. I'm too scared i will do some irreparable damage if i remove the buttons to put some art in there, so it's staying the way it is, unless anyone has any creative suggestions on how to pretty it up.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Is that just a different ball top you put on the stick ?

Yep. On the FS it's still the Hori stick and the HRAP still houses the Sanwa JLF. I was going for the VSHG look on the latter.

 

[Mr Jared]

yeah it sucks.

My EX2 worked perfectly fine initially but eventually the buttons stopped working in pairs The PCB totally sucks. My HRAPEX is serving me much better. Way less of a hassle to mod an no soldering.

I would LOVE to get my hands on a HRAPEX right about now, but hunting around online is showing that they're pretty much impossible to find these days. I know they're releasing it on the US at the end of December, but by that point I might as well just wait until the SF4 sticks.

I think the plan is to make a run to Frys tomorrow, pick up another EX2 for use in the mean time and when I'm feeling less depressed over the whole thing, order some new parts and try again.

 

[sixteen-bit]

I would LOVE to get my hands on a HRAPEX right about now, but hunting around online is showing that they're pretty much impossible to find these days. I know they're releasing it on the US at the end of December, but by that point I might as well just wait until the SF4 sticks.

I think the plan is to make a run to Frys tomorrow, pick up another EX2 for use in the mean time and when I'm feeling less depressed over the whole thing, order some new parts and try again.

Yeah that sounds like the best idea. And come February it'll be a passable to decent 2p stick

 

[JEKKI]

PS: It doesn't work. I managed to solder off the metal connectors when removing the original buttons. Is there any way to replace those or am I totally hosed? I'm not sure if I want to buy another and try again ... This was a learning process to be sure, so I could do it a hell of a lot better next time ... still, pretty depressed that I am now HD Remix-less for the next week or so.

wait what did u mess up on and why cant it be fixed??

I dont kno what a metal connector is but... cant u connect button/microswitch to PCB with wire?

 

[∀ Narayan]

yeah it sucks.

My EX2 worked perfectly fine initially but eventually the buttons stopped working in pairs The PCB totally sucks. My HRAPEX is serving me much better. Way less of a hassle to mod an no soldering.

Do you happen to know what parts the HRAPEX2 and HRAP3 use? I imagine they're just stocked with Hori parts.

I really ought to take a picture of my stick from Arcade-in-a-Box. The thing is excellent.

wait what did u mess up on and why cant it be fixed??

I dont kno what a metal connector is but... cant u connect button/microswitch to PCB with wire?

A metal contact is usually a conductible surface in which a signal can pass between two touching points. (In this case, a contact on a button touching a contact on a PCB.) Without the metal contact on the PCB, there is no conductible surface to relay the signal.

 

[Teknopathetic]

"Do you happen to know what parts the HRAPEX2 and HRAP3 use? I imagine they're just stocked with Hori parts."

All HRAPs have a Sanwa JLF stick with Hori Buttons (using quick disconnects)

 

[MarkMan]

The Hori Real Arcade PRO EX (360) uses Sanwa JLF-TM-8T-SK-K which is actually a bit different from the one used in the Hori Real Arcade PRO 3 (PS3) which uses Sanwa JLF-8Y-TP-SK.

The stick lever in the HRAP EX (360) is wired directly and does not use the standard Sanwa JLF 5 pin connector. The HRAP3 (PS3) however, does.

Neither of them have the special 4 way mounting plate found in the HRAP2 or HRAP1 ver A.

 

[sixteen-bit]

The Hori Real Arcade PRO EX (360) uses Sanwa JLF-TM-8T-SK-K which is actually a bit different from the one used in the Hori Real Arcade PRO 3 (PS3) which uses Sanwa JLF-8Y-TP-SK.

The stick lever in the HRAP EX (360) is wired directly and does not use the standard Sanwa JLF 5 pin connector. The HRAP3 (PS3) however, does.

Neither of them have the special 4 way mounting plate found in the HRAP2 or HRAP1 ver A.

What type of Sanwa is in the Madcatz Tournament Edition?

 

[Mr Jared]

The girlfriend is taking me on a pity shopping trip tomorrow to Frys to see if they have any EX2's in stock. I'll probably play on that for the week while I think of what to design it with.

I'm thinking of going all Lisa Frank. Coat the base purple, put on some fucking unicorns and rainbows ... hot pink buttons. It'd be amazing.

"But why try again?" Because even though I screwed up big time, it was a fun project. Now I just want to pull it off =P

 

[Mecha_Infantry]

There is no HRAP3 for 360, you mean Hori Real Arcade PRO EX?

I think it is a good stick, but the only issue I have with it is the button layout and innards.

Sorry I meant this one actually!

I can't afford the HARP-EX but the budget might be able to be pushed to get some new buttons and stick. What do you think, OK to start as a base??

 

[MarkMan]

What type of Sanwa is in the Madcatz Tournament Edition?

Same as in the Vewlix panel/SF IV machine. JLF-8Y-TP-SK-W.

Sorry I meant this one actually!

I can't afford the HARP-EX but the budget might be able to be pushed to get some new buttons and stick. What do you think, OK to start as a base??

I think it's an "OK" stick, but if you do plan on modding it, you'll be putting in some work if you're not familiar with modding at all.

For $20 more, you can get the SFIV stick which has more features and is easily moddable. That's totally up to you though.

 

[JEKKI]

A metal contact is usually a conductible surface in which a signal can pass between two touching points. (In this case, a contact on a button touching a contact on a PCB.) Without the metal contact on the PCB, there is no conductible surface to relay the signal.

I'm still confused... how exactly does a metal contact "come off" of a PCB??

ignorance is striking again but, is that possible? I thought metal contact on the board and the board itself are together as one.

 

[leehom]

I'm still confused... how exactly does a metal contact "come off" of a PCB??

ignorance is striking again but, is that possible? I thought metal contact on the board and the board itself are together as one.

You heat up that metal thing with a solder iron....and disconnect it quickly before it cools down. I forgot what that liquid metal is called.

 

[akuma001]

I'm still confused... how exactly does a metal contact "come off" of a PCB??

ignorance is striking again but, is that possible? I thought metal contact on the board and the board itself are together as one.

he probably means the circular contact where the prongs of the microswitch terminals go through. if you heat them up too much while removing the solder or pull on them when removing the old buttons they can "lift" or whatever.

ex2's use some cheap solder on the pcb that isn't easily melted (at least not for me) and you have to be extremely careful when sucking the solder out from the main board if you plan to mod one.

 

[Manp]

Well, here's my "completed" Hori EX2 mod.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3142/3070346140_407f2d343d.jpg[img]

PS: It doesn't work. I managed to solder off the metal connectors when removing the original buttons. Is there any way to replace those or am I totally hosed? I'm not sure if I want to buy another and try again ... This was a learning process to be sure, so I could do it a hell of a lot better next time ... still, pretty depressed that I am now HD Remix-less for the next week or so.[/QUOTE]

just follow the traces on the pcb from where the metal connector was to the first point where you can solder.

you can even scratch off the green stuff from the traces to expose the underlying copper and solder directly on that but it requires a bit of skill.

[url]http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=512248&st=0&p=3406983&#entry3406983[/url]

:)

 

[sixteen-bit]

For $20 more, you can get the SFIV stick which has more features and is easily moddable. That's totally up to you though.

I remember hearing the standard SFIV stick uses QDs on the buttons. What about the stick?

 

[∀ Narayan]

I forgot what that liquid metal is called.

Solder.

It's called solder.

 

[rocK`]

Aren't there two types of SF4 sticks? Hori and Mad Catz?

 

[fubarduck]

Im not sure if this stick I was playing on had just been used a lot or what the deal was but I was convinced it was something besides a sanwa.

Even more than that though I just dont like the build quality of it, namely the top. It has a weird flimsy feel to it. I wish they would have used the mirror top like on the older HRAPs. :\

In my experience, the way a stick/buttons are mounted has a direct impact on the way it feels, especially the joystick. Personally I find OSBN-30's to feel slightly softer to press than OSBF-30's (since OSBN-30's use the screw-in nut) and Sanwa/Seimitsu joysticks can feel incredibly different depending on the mounting plate used and what kind of material it's mounted to (wood, metal etc).

At Shinjuku Club Sega, they used Seimitsu joysticks for some of their 3rd Strike cabs that were top-mounted directly to the metal plate (you could see the mounting screwheads on top of the control panel) and this felt incredibly good for some reason. The only time I was ever able to reproduce this feeling is when I had some old RedOctane wooden joystick boxes that I modded with Seimitsu sticks; I used the S-shaped mounting plate and wood screws to fasten it (the inner part of the mounting plate was hollowed out with a router, to make room for the joystick).

Maybe more detail than you needed, but that ought to clear up some mysteries for you.

 

[rocK`]

God damn, I miss shinjuku

actually, I miss the Jap arcades and the cheap sushi and the women with the perfect legs.

ahh, togeki 2009, going for a repeat!

 

[sixteen-bit]

Aren't there two types of SF4 sticks? Hori and Mad Catz?

Yes, for different territorial markets.

 

[Quake1028]

This is going to hurt......

Sony PS3 Street Fighter IV FightStick $69.99
Sony PS3 Street Fighter IV FightPad - Blanka $39.99
Xbox 360 Street Fighter IV FightPad - Ken $39.99
Street Fighter IV PS3 $56.99

Grand Total: $206.96

 

[Quake1028]

BTW, are the PS3 controllers BC to the PS2?

 

[Aeris130]

Stick only $70? Someone said 150 in another thread.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Stick only $70? Someone said 150 in another thread.

The low-end stick is $70 ($80 on 360). The high-end one is $150 on both platforms.

 

[RadarScope1]

This is going to hurt......

Sony PS3 Street Fighter IV FightStick $69.99
Sony PS3 Street Fighter IV FightPad - Blanka $39.99
Xbox 360 Street Fighter IV FightPad - Ken $39.99
Street Fighter IV PS3 $56.99

Grand Total: $206.96

Kicking ass and taking names in glorious 2D - priceless.

 

[Chittagong]

Has anyone found an online shop shipping the SFIV stick to Europe?

 

[Quake1028]

Now I'm debating whether or not I need both the stick AND the pad for PS3, or if I should just get the stick and game for PS3 and the pad for 360. Decisions, decisions..

 

[twinturbo2]

Now I'm debating whether or not I need both the stick AND the pad for PS3, or if I should just get the stick and game for PS3 and the pad for 360. Decisions, decisions..

I'm contemplating getting both the high-end stick and the pad for the X360, and set the pad aside for when some buddies come over. Or the high-end stick and just keep the EX2 I have...

 

[Glix]

If my HRAP EX doesn't ship from Arcade Shock this week, I'm going to freak out.

 

[Nif]

If my HRAP EX doesn't ship from Arcade Shock this week, I'm going to freak out.

They're getting some in soon? I figured it'd be January before any came in stock anywhere (going by Amazon). I could bite if it came this month, but if it was January, I'd wait for the SF4 stick.

 

[Glix]

They're getting some in soon? I figured it'd be January before any came in stock anywhere (going by Amazon). I could bite if it came this month, but if it was January, I'd wait for the SF4 stick.

I've had it pre-ordered since late Sept. According to the site, they are expecting to get them in "late Nov/ early Dec".

In that same update, they pretty much guarantee that they are getting them BEFORE anyone else...

If it becomes late Dec/ early Jan I may just cancel my order and wait for the SF sticks.

We have finally confirmed from Hori that the sticks on Pre-Order will arrive sometime in late November, possibly early December. The reason why this is taking longer than expected is they are making a fresh batch for us, hence they needed the lead time to produce and ship this stick to us directly from Japan.

Be aware that both the HRAP3 and the HRAP EX 360 sticks were only available to the Japanese market and those sticks are sold out completely. No one at this time has them in stock and the ones that do, charge $220.00++ for the HRAP EX and $160++ for the HRAP3, this does not include shipping either. Because this is a pre-order item, we are able to sell these sticks at a low price and we can assure you that the next batch that Hori ships, we will be the first ones to get them and ship them out before any other dealer.

 

[Spiderjericho]

So far this is my SFIV haul:

1 of: Street Fighter IV
Sold by: Amazon.com, LLC
1 of: Street Fighter IV Collector's Edition
Sold by: Amazon.com, LLC
1 of: Xbox 360 Street Fighter IV FightStick Tournament Edition
Sold by: Amazon.com, LLC
1 of: Sony PS3 Street Fighter IV FightStick Tournament Edition
Sold by: Amazon.com, LLC
1 of: Xbox 360 Street Fighter IV FightPad - Ken
Sold by: Amazon.com, LLC
1 of: Street Fighter IV
Sold by: Amazon.com, LLC

Total is $517 so far...

I might invest in another FightPad depending on how it feels.

And if anyone is interested in a HRAP3...I have one that I haven't touched. The box is a little messed up (it came from Japan).

And I'm waiting for my HRAP EX too...

They sure took their money though...

 

[MoxManiac]

This is going to hurt......

Sony PS3 Street Fighter IV FightStick $69.99
Sony PS3 Street Fighter IV FightPad - Blanka $39.99
Xbox 360 Street Fighter IV FightPad - Ken $39.99
Street Fighter IV PS3 $56.99

Grand Total: $206.96

Probably would have been better to dump the pads and get the TE stick!

 

[Askia47]

Do the madcatz sticks come with a square gate?

 

[BeEatNU]

I been lagging on my for soo long due to work, since things has slowed down, I can start working on it

 

[AZ Greg]

So how does pre-ordering work with Amazon? What sort of hold do they put on your account if any?

 

[haunts]

Maybe more detail than you needed, but that ought to clear up some mysteries for you.

No thats good information. Ive been wondering for a while why the sticks feel different depending on what box they are in. With that particular HRAP3, the microswitches felt "mushy". Hard to describe I guess but it felt like it didnt snap back as quick as some of the other sticks I have played on that have the same stick in them.

 

[ravien56]

well after buying sf2hd, I gotta buy a arcade stick...im looking at amazon right now and they got Playstation 3 Fighting Stick 3
by HORI or Playstation 3 Fighting Stick 3 - Soul Calibur Limited Edition...any good?