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Been out of the stick "scene," and SF4's giving me some conflicts. =(

- I have the TE stick for 360 reserved, but if a tourney is running on PS3, are there good/cheap PS2>3 converters?

- My PS2/DC MAS stick w/competition is losing diagonals, anything I can do to try to revive it? How hard is this to replace? Can I buy a single comp. stick anywhere?
 
Grifter said:
Been out of the stick "scene," and SF4's giving me some conflicts. =(

- I have the TE stick for 360 reserved, but if a tourney is running on PS3, are there good/cheap PS2>3 converters?
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inPin, REAL and Pelican converters are highly rated, but they're very scarce.

- My PS2/DC MAS stick w/competition is losing diagonals, anything I can do to try to revive it? How hard is this to replace? Can I buy a single comp. stick anywhere?
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yes, http://www.lizardlickamusements.com/pages/joysticks.shtml
 
I'm buying SF4 on PS3 and I'm just curious... is it safer to buy a 360 SF4 TE stick and hope for some workaround to use it on the PS3? I'm thinking it'll be harder to go the other way around and would love maximum compatibility across all consoles.
 
Not entirely stick related, but there's been a lot of interest here for the MadCatz SF4 pads as well. Thought I would post a link - Ars has the first real play test and description (that I've seen). Sounds great - I just wish the 360 version was wireless.

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thu...button-gamepad-the-ultimate-d-pad-has-arrived

I might end up getting three - two for playing SF4 locally on the PS3 and one on the 360 for online HD remix play and lots of 2D/XBLA games.
 
RadarScope1 said:
Not entirely stick related, but there's been a lot of interest here for the MadCatz SF4 pads as well. Thought I would post a link - Ars has the first real play test and description (that I've seen). Sounds great - I just wish the 360 version was wireless.

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thu...button-gamepad-the-ultimate-d-pad-has-arrived

I might end up getting three - two for playing SF4 locally on the PS3 and one on the 360 for online HD remix play and lots of 2D/XBLA games.
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Thanks I don't remember if I posted that link here or not.

But yea the SF4 pads are good. I've been using them for awhile now ;)
 
MarkMan said:
Thanks I don't remember if I posted that link here or not.

But yea the SF4 pads are good. I've been using them for awhile now ;)
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Are the PS TE sticks going to be available day one?
Chad's post on SRK is discouraging.
 
Since MarkMan has said that the SF4 sticks won't have room for Happ sticks:

What IS the best stick to buy for the 360 if I want to mod it with Happ parts?
 
KaosAngel said:
WOW! If they sell their stuff, they must be making in a lot of money. It costs 5000円 just to make the stick with a basic case and all Sanwa parts. Damn, I should do that...sell the sticks for crazy prices.
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yeah cause the plastic case that the TE stick comes in sure must cost a lot to make hey...moron.

and asshole if you have a better suggestion please post it.
 
UC1 said:
Did you try joy2key?
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Nope, but thanks, I will give it a go after work.


Chorazin said:
It works just fine in MAMEui, I let Windows XP find the drivers and when I loaded up MAMEui, hit P and then Tab to set up the joystick to work with the game.
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It used to work in XP for me but since moving Vista 64 it does not, I have not however tried Mameui and I will give it a go later on, thanks.
 
RaidenZR said:
I'm buying SF4 on PS3 and I'm just curious... is it safer to buy a 360 SF4 TE stick and hope for some workaround to use it on the PS3? I'm thinking it'll be harder to go the other way around and would love maximum compatibility across all consoles.
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for me i'd say either way will be just as hard/easy. there will be cthulhu ps3 boards to mod in a 360 stick and madcatz/gamestop 360 gamepads to mod into ps3 sticks.

from what i'm seeing there won't be an easy workaround as far as getting access to make your home/guide button work on both systems since i'm assuming the only solder point would be on the pcb where the turbo switches are. i'm also assuming the +5 and d+/d- solder points are there as well if you wanted to do a switch mod like i would probably do. until we can see how its mounted, how the actual pcb looks, and how accessible those solder points are no one will know for sure.

even if the possible usb hub mod people on srk are talking about will work, you would still need to somehow tap into the home/guide button if you want it to act as a shared button between both systems. also who knows how much room is there to fit a usb hub in there with another pcb plus wiring.

i think just looking at the sticks the big difference in making a decision though is that if you get the 360 te stick you will already have the 360 headset port on your stick already instead of modding one into it if you get a ps3 stick.

oh and one more thing, toodles on srk is making a revision to the cthulhu board so that it has more compatibilty with more systems other than ps3 such as gc, xbox, and i think ps2, maybe more so that may be another influence in choosing a 360 te stick as your base stick. dunno how soon he would make that pcb available though.

unfortunately i already missed out on preorders so someone else will have to figure all this out. :(
 
hmm. got to thinking. You guys think there will be any cross 360/PS3 peripherals this gen? Like the the anniversary stick and soul cali stick and stuff like that from last gen?
 
Halvie said:
yeah cause the plastic case that the TE stick comes in sure must cost a lot to make hey...moron.

and asshole if you have a better suggestion please post it.
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Yeah I do, buy an Elecom stick, go to Akiba and just buy the Sanwa sticks/buttons for 2500円. Open up the Elecom stick, take out crappy parts, replace with Sanwa. Takes 20 minutes to do for someone with no soldering skills.

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My stick has all the parts of the SFIV arcade and costs just 5000円。
 
KaosAngel said:
My stick has all the parts of the SFIV arcade and costs just 5000円。
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except in the u.s. it costs about 5000y just to buy sanwa parts. :lol

if he has no tools he has to buy at least a soldering iron, desoldering braid, solder, wire, metal shaving file, drill, and mounting bolts at the least.

and then he has to buy the stick to mod for around $40.

maybe it still won't cost as much as the sf4 te stick but what he would get in return from buying the sf4 stick is an already quality made sanwa based stick with the correct mounting as the vewlix cabinets. he could just take out of the box and plug and play. it would have a wider and heavier base for lap play and it would have some useful features not found in the elecom like cord storage, kill switches, etc.

there is also that peace of mind when you buy something well made that already has all the best features, price doesn't become a concern.

nice mod though. i like the simple ones that go for functionality the best. :D
 
akuma001 said:
it would have a wider and heavier base for lap play and it would have some useful features not found in the elecom like cord storage, kill switches, etc.
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This is pretty valid, didn't think about this. But man, $150 USD is A LOT for a stick. You can get the Pro Hori for just 7000円, I couldn't fork over that much for a stick [the special SFIV stick].
 
KaosAngel said:
This is pretty valid, didn't think about this. But man, $150 USD is A LOT for a stick. You can get the Pro Hori for just 7000円, I couldn't fork over that much for a stick [the special SFIV stick].
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The stick scene here in the US just isn't the same man. We have to import our parts or buy from places that import them. By the time you import, the cost difference is negligible.

Can't just walk down to the game store and pick up a fighter stick, sadly the US doesn't retail many at all.
 
ashism said:
The stick scene here in the US just isn't the same man. We have to import our parts or buy from places that import them. By the time you import, the cost difference is negligible.

Can't just walk down to the game store and pick up a fighter stick, sadly the US doesn't retail many at all.
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No kidding! Just to get the HRAP3 SFIV edition costs $160 to ship from play-asia....a large chunk being the UPS shipping fee. Even from NCSX it will be about the same as the Tournament Edition.

I dunno, the Madcatz seems priced about right to me.
 
Yes Boss! said:
No kidding! Just to get the HRAP3 SFIV edition costs $160 to ship from play-asia....a large chunk being the UPS shipping fee. Even from NCSX it will be about the same as the Tournament Edition.

I dunno, the Madcatz seems priced about right to me.
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Have to agree with you there. This is why I don't have any arcade sticks for my 360 yet. The stick market here is as niche as niche can get.

Here's to better times and hopefully enough of a revival that the US will see a demand for this stuff.

Custom sticks are a work of art, but we need more retail options for those less adept at creating.
 
hmm, since still no UK release in sight, I wonder what my chances to find the Street Fighter IV TE stick in Hong Kong? Will be there Feb 20-21

EDIT: Thread reading FTL. Markman, £150 coming your way. Please don't tell my wife.

EDIT2: Surely this picture in Play.com is wrong?

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I suspect Madcatz is banking on the sales of Fightpads and the lower priced Fightsticks to, in a way, subsidize the Tournament Edition. If the TE is indeed limited to the low thousands that is still less than $1M in retail sales and after development and manufacturing costs not a lot of profit I'd imagine.
 
Yes Boss! said:
I suspect Madcatz is banking on the sales of Fightpads and the lower priced Fightsticks to, in a way, subsidize the Tournament Edition. If the TE is indeed limited to the low thousands that is still less than $1M in retail sales and after development and manufacturing costs not a lot of profit I'd imagine.
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And the TE stick is a complete image makeover for Mad Catz. I could have never imagined to buy anything from the company and always associated them with cheaply manufactured crap. The TE stick says "we do quality product" better than $10 million worth of campaigns could.
 
Chittagong said:
And the TE stick is a complete image makeover for Mad Catz. I could have never imagined to buy anything from the company and always associated them with cheaply manufactured crap. The TE stick says "we do quality product" better than $10 million worth of campaigns could.
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This is true...they are buying a lot of good will by hooking up with Capcom, hiring great folks to design the stuff, and releasing a quality product.

Definitley the first Madcatz I've ever bought!
 
This isnt the first Madcatz product Ive bought, but it is definitely the first Im looking forward to and isnt a last resort thing. I think the whole SF4 line is going to go a long way with the community. Almost any company can make quality products, but some choose to take the cheap route and sell their product with a discount. .Madcatz products that I have are shady, but they were cheap. Personally I dont mind paying extra for higher quality. I guess time will tell which business model is more profitable for Madcatz.
 
Yes Boss! said:
I suspect Madcatz is banking on the sales of Fightpads and the lower priced Fightsticks to, in a way, subsidize the Tournament Edition. If the TE is indeed limited to the low thousands that is still less than $1M in retail sales and after development and manufacturing costs not a lot of profit I'd imagine.
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You can make a fight stick like the TE for less money, and completely customize it. Thats with all the items being purchased at retail prices.

So yes, Mad Catz is making an absolute killing on the TE sticks.
 
So after being on the fence for weeks on this thing, I've decided to blow my Xmas money and go all in on the TE. Now it seems all the pre-orders are filled. Of course, that's probably the reason I want one, knowing I seemingly can't have it. :lol

I'm checking around now but, is there ANY place still filling orders....?
 
What are the chances with Street Fighter IV, The King of Fighters XII, and BlazBlue coming out this year, that the fighting scene in the States is closer to what it is here?

OMG, that would be awesome.

MadCatz vs Hori

Cheaper sticks, better quality, better business. Do it.
 
Trax416 said:
You can make a fight stick like the TE for less money, and completely customize it. Thats with all the items being purchased at retail prices.

So yes, Mad Catz is making an absolute killing on the TE sticks.
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We will never know but I seriously doubt they are making as much as you think. There is quite a big difference between DIY and buying manufacturing time, tooling machines and paying a workforce to assemble it all...not to mention all the custom printing for boxes.

But whatever...if you wanna build your own then that is one option.
 
KaosAngel said:
Yeah I do, buy an Elecom stick, go to Akiba and just buy the Sanwa sticks/buttons for 2500円. Open up the Elecom stick, take out crappy parts, replace with Sanwa. Takes 20 minutes to do for someone with no soldering skills.
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Does that stick fit HAPP? The guy I was originally responding to was specifically asking for a case that could take HAPP parts. I don't know of any that are readily available so I made the suggestion I did. There are obviously cheaper ways to get an all Sawna stick than to buy the TE stick...could just get the HRAP3 and change the buttons, but again that isn't what the guy was asking.
 
Don't know if anyone mentioned this but today was the last day to Pre order the street fighter 4 TE sticks from Gamestop.
 
FYI - I gave Lizard Lick my address for notification should the stick become available and got a response within minutes telling me to fill out the form and they'd put me on the list. Not sure how likely I am to get one -- we're on the bubble at this point -- but for any last minute people still interested give them a shot. Good luck.
 
Halvie said:
Does that stick fit HAPP? The guy I was originally responding to was specifically asking for a case that could take HAPP parts. I don't know of any that are readily available so I made the suggestion I did. There are obviously cheaper ways to get an all Sawna stick than to buy the TE stick...could just get the HRAP3 and change the buttons, but again that isn't what the guy was asking.
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I never bought a HAPP so I can't tell you...I had to manually solder the sticks and button because the Elecom uses crappier stick/buttons. From what I know, the newer Hori sticks are just pop in/out if you want to change parts. Don't quote me...just what I heard from friends.
 
Hi, I was considering buying one of the standard FightSticks ($150 for the TE version is way out of my price range, and I figure someone like me who's had literally zero experience with Japanese arcade sticks probably couldn't tell much difference anyway.), and I had some questions I've been having trouble findings the answers to. This would be the first arcade stick I'll have ever bought, so I apologize if any of these are really obvious.

1. If I was to get the PS3 version, would it work well on my PC if I just plugged it in, or would I have to install some kind of special driver first? Would it be detected and usable with just about anything that use a gamepad the way it works when I use a PS2-to-USB adapter with my DualShock 2 controller? Also, is there a way to somehow use this with a PS2 or Wii (in case of Tatsunoko vs. Capcom)?

2. How long is the USB cable?

3. What is the warranty?

4. Regarding the quick disconnects, I found a video on Destructoid of the TE version being opened. It looks like the cables can be removed from the ends of the buttons, and the old button can just pop right out and new one put in the same way. Am I correct? Can the non-TE version also be opened and modified this easily? Also, I assume that since this is shown in what appears to be a promotional video from Capcom that this would not void my warranty?

5. The clear plastic on the underside of where the joystick would be is the restrictor plate, right? And it's a square restrictor, right? Now, I found this video on the Lizard Lick Amusements site showing how the restrictor on the Sanwa JLF can be changed between square, octagonal, and circular. Can the restrictor plate on the non-TE version be adjusted in the similar fashion, and if so, does it need to be removed from the unit first? If not, which restrictor would be good to buy if I wanted to go with an octagonal gate? There are a lot listed on the Lizard Lick site.

6. Can the artwork on the non-TE stick be removed and replaced as easily as the Destructoid video suggests can be done for the TE version?

7. If I was to replace the joystick and buttons with Sanwa equivalents, would you say that would put it on the same level as the TE version minus other functions on the rest of the unit itself?

8. I see a lot of talk about the supply of the TE version being very limited. Is this also true for the standard version?

That's all the questions I can think of for now. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me. And MarkMan, nice job to you and your team for actually getting me interested in buying an arcade joystick in the first place.
 
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