XANDER CAGE
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don't break my heart with your truths ;-;
Neon Genesis Evangelion
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don't break my heart with your truths ;-;
Nothx.
I'd prefer a proper film transfer (whatever the process is called) of the original. Since Eva was shot on film, it should look pretty good on BD.
Can't wait for Bebop's BD Box set* to come out soon; I hope Eva is next . . . some day.
*Can I borrow $500 from someone?
Yeah, I love what they did! And all 2D digital work was done in-house, in both the series and the old theatrical films, by what was called GAINAX SHOP... beautiful work for such little team! Probably working simultaneously on computer programs (like screen-savers, for example) and complete games was inspiration and help in achieving the look they wanted with expertise.
As long as they don't make all the Evas CG. Some shots in Rebuild are alright but for the most part the CG is way too jarring.
There's something must richer about cel animation that I prefer in general, as well. I mean aside maybe from frame count, I prefer the original over Rebuild here:
And yeah, Blu Ray End of Evangelion is probably one of my most desired things in life. That movie deserves to be seen in as pristine a print as possible. I'd also love for them to do a proper dub so that people who watch it in English aren't subjected to the pivotal translation mistake and farty sound effects ADV added. I mean I know subs are the way to watch foreign films, but like... the dub of EoE feels like a sick joke in spots, and I'm actually fond of some of the English cast.
Well, Yoh Yoshinari is one of the best animators of all time.
oh my god
Arm split in HALF
Don't worry, it'll be part of everyone soon enough.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
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It's been years since I've seen the series and I certainly do need to watch it again soon, but.....
I remember the TV series ending being the result of the rejection of instrumentality whilst EoE showed the results of its acceptance, no?
Thank you! That's fan-fucking-tastic!
XANDER CAGE
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ok remember when I was really wrong about rotoscoping the other day?
At least I never said that
patrickthehedgehog
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Spoilersville! Beware! Do not click the link here if you haven't seen End of Evangelion.
I took some caps of the the scene in EOE where they quickly flash the remains of Unit 02 before Shinji lets out his blood curdling scream. Gross, but always interesting to see the Eva's insides. http://superpatrick.minus.com/mbmbzay8bdKb95
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the single shot of Asuka's face covered in maggots
patrickthehedgehog
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Done!
Jex
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You sir, are a wise man.
Also see all the ridiculous read-out porn in Gunbuster.
That episode was a ton of fun to watch. One of my favourites.
And I think Kaji's Japanese VA speaking English in 2.0 was worse. I had subs on, and it took me a moment to realize he was speaking English.
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Why is
Asuka's face covered with maggots? Didn't she just died a few minutes ago in that scene?
Regulus Tera
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If I remember well, that shot
appears when she's screaming I DON'T WANNA DIE. It's just her envisioning what her death would entail.
patrickthehedgehog
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Right, not the same scene.
Basileus777
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I've never watched Rebuild 2.0. 1.0 was an inferior recap of the series, and I never bothered, was I wrong to stop there?
patrickthehedgehog
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Give 2.0 a watch. There's some new stuff there you'll probably enjoy.
Pop-O-Matic
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2.0 deviates heavily from the source material, so you'll probably enjoy it more.
Sapphire Dreams
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*Sigh* I didn't like NGE to be completely honest, I found it to be boring, I mean it uses symbolism heavily to tell a story instead of character interaction, and it doesn't help but to have a pretty unlikable protagonist.
The animation is top notch, I give that.
The animation is top notch, I give that.
patrickthehedgehog
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You really think there's more focus on the symbolism than the characters? Hmm, not sure I agree with that.
There's always Rebuild.
patrickthehedgehog
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Watching the movie at work and just saw that scene. I was always tempted to frame through it...
I was going to do the same... i think i will wait tomorrow (even if it shouldn't have the same effect since i already know the plot and the finale).
You do realise the symbolism's there just to look cool, right?
The religious symbolism in NGE is actually not used in any sort of religiously meaningful fashion. According to Evangelion Assistant Director Kazuya Tsurumaki:
"There are a lot of giant robot shows in Japan, and we did want our story to have a religious theme to help distinguish us. Because Christianity is an uncommon religion in Japan we thought it would be mysterious. None of the staff who worked on Eva are Christians. There is no actual Christian meaning to the show, we just thought the visual symbols of Christianity look cool. If we had known the show would get distributed in the US and Europe we might have rethought that choice"
"There are a lot of giant robot shows in Japan, and we did want our story to have a religious theme to help distinguish us. Because Christianity is an uncommon religion in Japan we thought it would be mysterious. None of the staff who worked on Eva are Christians. There is no actual Christian meaning to the show, we just thought the visual symbols of Christianity look cool. If we had known the show would get distributed in the US and Europe we might have rethought that choice"
I just heard the English dub for the first time, oh god...
NSFW/Spoilers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vanjlXLN5o
NSFW/Spoilers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vanjlXLN5o
XANDER CAGE
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Having an unlikable protagonist is entirely intentional and necessary.
Spike Spencer is a magic man.
This is a good post. The overt symbolism would have been far worse if it was intentional. Good symbolism and metaphor rarely is. Evangelion may not specifically intentionally address any Christian themes, but the imagery gives identity to several universal themes that happen to relate to religion (apocalypse, sacrifice, fate vs free will, etc) and the show would definitely be worse off without said images.
The nonsense Christian imagery does actually add a hell of a lot of atmosphere.
Oh man.
I read this on evacommentary.org and thought it was appropriate...
According to a very frank and open 40-minute interview by Anno on the NHK TV program Top Runner (www.nhk.org.jp/tr/) about a week or so ago, all religious and philosophical references, while providing a coherent setting for the story, were used for the specific purpose of looking cool and to make Anno & company appear intelligent. Anno himself called it pedantry (the display/parading of one's intelligence), and this is backed up by comments by Tsurumaki and other staff as well.
Hexon.Arq: "I'll be perfectly honest and say that I am one of those people who believe that the lack of substance in the religious symbolism is part truth, part blatant falsehood. Things like cross-explosions and esoteric names may fit the description of frivolous window dressing, but other occurrences simply make too much sense to be dumb luck."
Reichu: "Pedantry aside, I think that the religious symbolism used in NGE should be viewed within the context of the show itself and how it oftentimes reinforces some of the themes and ideas being presented. Some of the references are empty and just there to look cool, but others do, like Hexon.Arq says, have more "substance" to them just not in an actual religious context."
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