Haha, I'm replying late but that's good point. So happy anniversary it is!
NES/Famicom Appreciation Thread
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Haha, I'm replying late but that's good point. So happy anniversary it is!
That and the NES Top Loader is RF only!
sixteen-bit
Member
If you compained about the video quality, Nintendo allowed you to send it back to them for one with an AV out. I remember a really old DP thread about how rare the NA toploaders with AV out are.
I think you are right, but I only played the PAL-version, so I wouldnt really now how the original sounds unfortunately. Sounded and played great in my mind anyways.
sixteen-bit
Member
There's some exposition, and NPCs tell you where you should go next some times, but it's pretty straight forward and you can pretty much "fake it 'til you make it".
I didn't know the price disparity would be so large... looks like NES GQ2 is nearing Demon's Crest territory, shit. I don't blame you for going Famicom.
I dont know. Like I wrote in on of the other threads, I got GQ2 with 4 other decent games for just 26£ last week. Definitely not Demons Crest territory - or maybe I was just incredibly lucky.
Seems to be going for around $40-$50 on ebay for a cart. Edit: Actually I see one auction that ended at $60 recently. Damn.
georgetheplushie
Member
Please tell me you're joking.
alf717
Member
I'm still waiting on my copy of Mario / Duck Hunt to skyrocket. It has to be at least 25+ years now since release and it still fetches only a few bucks. WTF! Because of this I've been thinking of selling off my entire collection. However I'm still trying to acquire clear plastic shells with the words RARE!!!! on it to ensure I gain massive money for everything. Since all caps and the more exclamation points used ensure top dollar or so I've heard.
The speculative market for retro gaming is utter BS and I hope it crashes and burns soon.
I saw a box for Little Samson, just the box mind you...no game nor manual, under glass at Too Many Games a few weeks ago for $300. The best part? It literally looked like it was used to line the bottom of a kitty litter box.
As someone who lived through the NES, Genesis and SNES era as a teen and adult it makes me sick seeing some of the prices of these games nowadays. Many of which aren't rare and were mass produced to hell and back and are currently being artificially inflated by dealers and clueless eBay sellers.
I'm not saying there aren't more obscure carts out there...but seeing even common stuff like Legend of Zelda, Contra and Castlevania command $25-30 in some cases, especially in loose and shit conditions, is ridiculous.
This stuff is getting out of hand and I pray for the market to flatline and fall out under itself. It ruins the fun.
I saw a box for Little Samson, just the box mind you...no game nor manual, under glass at Too Many Games a few weeks ago for $300. The best part? It literally looked like it was used to line the bottom of a kitty litter box.
As someone who lived through the NES, Genesis and SNES era as a teen and adult it makes me sick seeing some of the prices of these games nowadays. Many of which aren't rare and were mass produced to hell and back and are currently being artificially inflated by dealers and clueless eBay sellers.
I'm not saying there aren't more obscure carts out there...but seeing even common stuff like Legend of Zelda, Contra and Castlevania command $25-30 in some cases, especially in loose and shit conditions, is ridiculous.
This stuff is getting out of hand and I pray for the market to flatline and fall out under itself. It ruins the fun.
7DollarHagane
Banned
I think that same box was at Midwest Gaming Classic for $300 last May, lol.
Just beat Ninja Gaiden 2, which was in my opinion an amazing game, almost on par with the original. It also has probably the same kind of difficulty, which I like, and no "go back three-levels when you die on the last boss"-bullshit this time around. This was actually the first time I ever played it seriously, having never owned it back in the day (and only gone to the second level when I quickly tried it out before), and I think its a good sign that I managed to beat it in an afternoon although with some heavy preserverance.
So I think the control, power-ups and challenge was a bit better in this game, and the bosses was also better in my opinion. The level-design was also pretty creative with lots of new mechanics like the wind, ice and water which is nice for the variation, although I think none of those mechanics really worked that well. The music and graphics also was as amazing as ever, and while cheesy, you just gotta love that story with those amazing plot twists lol:
All in all, like I said, a great NES-game worthy of every collection imo.
So I think the control, power-ups and challenge was a bit better in this game, and the bosses was also better in my opinion. The level-design was also pretty creative with lots of new mechanics like the wind, ice and water which is nice for the variation, although I think none of those mechanics really worked that well. The music and graphics also was as amazing as ever, and while cheesy, you just gotta love that story with those amazing plot twists lol:
All in all, like I said, a great NES-game worthy of every collection imo.
sixteen-bit
Member
<3 NG2. I prefer it to the original to be honest, but in the interest of full disclosure, it's the one I played first.
This sucks...but due to limited space I really don't have room for my Commodore 1701 monitor to play the NES on these days. Basically if I could find a suitably sized console cabinet to match our family room I could have shoved it in there behind hidden doors to appease the wife. Lugging out and putting away the 1701 is quite frankly a total bitch to deal with whenever I want some NES time.
In any case, I haven't found much that will fit it within my budget cabinet wise that will fit where it needs to so I am considering taking the opposite approach and snagging a little flat screen and shoving it into my son's room since he needs a TV in there and this way we can both play it. I just want to play the dang thing, and since we moved into this new house in April it's been pretty much boxed up.
So the question is this - I have a toaster NES, my old original I got for Christmas in 1986, and I have always used the A/V outs. Does anyone have any recommendations of a nice 19-22'ish inch LCD I can hook it up to? I'm looking to spend under $160 or so but I want to get best image quality possible on one of these things.
Trust me...I know it isn't the best way to view it, but hey, I will take that over not playing the thing at all...
In any case, I haven't found much that will fit it within my budget cabinet wise that will fit where it needs to so I am considering taking the opposite approach and snagging a little flat screen and shoving it into my son's room since he needs a TV in there and this way we can both play it. I just want to play the dang thing, and since we moved into this new house in April it's been pretty much boxed up.
So the question is this - I have a toaster NES, my old original I got for Christmas in 1986, and I have always used the A/V outs. Does anyone have any recommendations of a nice 19-22'ish inch LCD I can hook it up to? I'm looking to spend under $160 or so but I want to get best image quality possible on one of these things.
Trust me...I know it isn't the best way to view it, but hey, I will take that over not playing the thing at all...
Yeah, I think its better in almost every way, except for the level-gimmicks that doesnt work as well as they should have and adds quite a bit of frustration imo. Also, the music in the original is better imo, but that is surely down to me having played and loved that game for more than 20 years
Definitely a better balanced game overall.
IrishNinja
Member
anyone know if $40 (shipped) is a good deal for a boxed NASA Super Converter (Famicom > NES)? was looking for something not too fancy but a bit better than using a Gyromite adapter. no idea what to expect price-wise though.
I refuse to believe this. How the hell do you "forget" you have 3 Little Samsons.
EDIT: What do you guys think about the Joycard Sansui SSS Controller?
sixteen-bit
Member
That controller is really cool. It's basically the western-branded Hudson joycard for Famicom. It's more comfortable than the standard NES controller thanks to the rounded Famicom-like edges, offers rapid fire, and has a cool headphone jack you can use if you plug the audio lead from your NES into it. Recommended.
alf717
Member
Darkwing Duck is pretty much like a Mega Man game with some added elements. Played it a lot when I was a kid. It was fun but I remember not being really good at it for some reason. Yet I was really good at Mega Man titles. The music is really good to.
Rygar 8 Bit
Jaguar 64-bit
most likely picked them up when they were cheap i remember thinking $40 was too much ugh wish i would of picked it up
Polioliolio
Member
The boxed NES collection on the new shelving.
Most were passed onto me from a cousin, but I'm interested in adding to it.
Maniac Mansion, Battletoads, Beetlejuice, and Monster Party were must haves for me, so I recently added those.
And here's the boxed famicom (and boxed gameboy) collection. Never went out of my way to get boxed, except for Gimmick and Bio Miracle Bokutte.
The rest just came that way on Amazon.jp
Most were passed onto me from a cousin, but I'm interested in adding to it.
Maniac Mansion, Battletoads, Beetlejuice, and Monster Party were must haves for me, so I recently added those.
And here's the boxed famicom (and boxed gameboy) collection. Never went out of my way to get boxed, except for Gimmick and Bio Miracle Bokutte.
The rest just came that way on Amazon.jp
So my JPN HVC-101 NES turned up today, the pads are fairly yellowed......
and the system itself is stained....
I got some 35% strength Hydrogen Peroxide in preparation to hopefully restore the original colour....
I take it that if i add 1 litre of HP to 7 litres of water ill get a 5% HP mixture??
Will HP remove the stained areas on the system shell??
and the system itself is stained....
I got some 35% strength Hydrogen Peroxide in preparation to hopefully restore the original colour....
I take it that if i add 1 litre of HP to 7 litres of water ill get a 5% HP mixture??
Will HP remove the stained areas on the system shell??
blizzardjesus
Banned
Look into making some retro bright, alot of the staining is probably nicotine.
http://retr0bright.wikispaces.com/Retr0Bright+Gel
D.Lo
Member
Stains? No. I mean it might clean it too, but the peroxide is for bleaching.
That doesn't all look like yellowing, yellowing is usually fairly even. It kind of looks like mild burning.
Anyway, you'll need a glass tank or something if using liquid. I use hairdresser creme peroxide, can just slather it on, leave in the sun, looks like new in 4-8 hours.
So i stuck my dog bone pad in 10% Hydrogen Peroxide solution this morning before going to work (about 7:30am)......
It wasnt a 100% sunny day, was some cloud cover about but was rather hot 28c, and this was the result after about 10 hours outside....
Rather happy with the results!!
It wasnt a 100% sunny day, was some cloud cover about but was rather hot 28c, and this was the result after about 10 hours outside....
Rather happy with the results!!
sixteen-bit
Member
Lookin' good!So i stuck my dog bone pad in 10% Hydrogen Peroxide solution this morning before going to work (about 7:30am)......
It wasnt a 100% sunny day, was some cloud cover about but was rather hot 28c, and this was the result after about 10 hours outside....
Rather happy with the results!!
Rygar 8 Bit
Jaguar 64-bit
coming out nice looks like new
Polioliolio
Member
That looks really nice.
But do you suppose the original color was that grey?
But do you suppose the original color was that grey?
Loved it. Good music, great graphics.
It's very much like Mega Man as stated, but much easier...The different gun choices, the hook platforms that you hang from and the ability to block set it apart from Mega Man. It actually fits pretty well as a Protoman game.
The low difficulty would be my only complaint about that game, as I used to 1cc it with tons of lives remaining. Still, worth a play-through for sure.
One of my favorite NES games ever... though I could never beat the final series of battles. Congrats, the ending was considered legendary back in the day, I think an old EGM voted it their "best ending ever".
PixyJunket
Member
I did my dogbones and top-loader a couple of years ago and they ended up yellowing again after some time.
I guess I could do it again.
Polioliolio
Member
Why would that happen? Are you in a smoking household?
Or do these plastics just yellow when exposed to air in general?
PixyJunket
Member
I think it's just the second statement, the plastics they used back then were just crappy.
I have an SNES that looks like it's been sitting in the box in its original cellophane for twenty years, so it can be hit or miss, I guess different runs used different materials.
sixteen-bit
Member
I've read that the fire retardant material in the plastic causes it to yellow over time.
The lightning trick is great to cheat the platforming if you don't know the level very well.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
This is what I've always heard. There is no getting it to go away permanently. Luckily it's easy to do if you just do the simple version like this instead of making the gel.
Rygar 8 Bit
Jaguar 64-bit
got some filler games rocket ranger and ikari warriors 3 and had the seller of fire n ice cancel the order on me think he saw his mistake of selling the cart and manual for loose price oh well
on a side adventure i discovered these 8bit neca figures last week and proceeded to buy all of them all at once and preordered the next 2 coming out they are damn amazing
on a side adventure i discovered these 8bit neca figures last week and proceeded to buy all of them all at once and preordered the next 2 coming out they are damn amazing
and they are putting out a batman and rocky this fall
blizzardjesus
Banned
The yellowing can come back, you can sometimes prevent it by spraying the plastic with an acrylic sealer once yo get it where you want it.
Something like this should do the trick.
http://www.krylon.com/products/crystal-clear-acrylic/
Thanks! That last series of battles was really irritating since you basically had to clear the whole last level for only one chance, and I think I completed that level almost 15 times before I was able to kill all three forms of the final boss, but at least I managed. And yeah, the ending was great
Yeah I definitely used this, would have been way harder without.
I think you can get some UV protection spray paint, i might get some and try that.
Something like this....
http://paintsprays.co.uk/marabu-protective-varnish-p-314.html
or
http://paintsprays.co.uk/plastikote-clear-sealers-p-764.html
Not sure if i should get a Matt or Gloss finish though......i think matt would look the better!?
Anyone know if the Hydrogen Peroxide would damage the PSU socket on the rear of the JPN HVC-101 NES, theres a plastic section on the rear that houses the multiout socket and the PSU socket, the multiout socket isnt attached but the PSU socket is and i would need to unsolder the 2 pins from the NES mainboard to remove it completely
But not use if i could submerge that into HP without damaging the metal contacts in the PSU socket...
But not use if i could submerge that into HP without damaging the metal contacts in the PSU socket...