I haven't had an issue with their packaging, *shrug*
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I haven't had an issue with their packaging, *shrug*
FINALLY got around to playing Dead of Winter, having owned it for over two months. I was very impressed! I only played a 2-player game with my girlfriend so I didn't get the full effect with the secret objectives and possibility of a betrayer, but it was a lot of fun regardless. We played a short game and it took forever to finish, but that's only because there are so many rules to the game; we were constantly pausing play to read up on how to do things, or what the consequences of doing certain actions would bring. The next time we play will go much faster, I'm sure.
I got a real Pandemic vibe from the game. Pandemic is the only other co-op I've played, so I'm not sure if it's just because that's how all co-ops play, or if Dead of Winter is really that similar to Pandemic. That said though, I enjoyed it more than any game of Pandemic I've played. I think I just prefer the theme more, and there are a greater number of actions you can take per turn which made it more exciting for me. Seemed like there were a lot more ways to win and a lot more ways to lose.
My only gripe so far is how long the game takes to setup and tear down. In the future, if I feel like busting out a quick and dirty co-op game, I'll reach for Pandemic. If I want a longer, more thematic experience, Dead of Winter it shall be. I'm glad I have both options in my collection!
I got a real Pandemic vibe from the game. Pandemic is the only other co-op I've played, so I'm not sure if it's just because that's how all co-ops play, or if Dead of Winter is really that similar to Pandemic. That said though, I enjoyed it more than any game of Pandemic I've played. I think I just prefer the theme more, and there are a greater number of actions you can take per turn which made it more exciting for me. Seemed like there were a lot more ways to win and a lot more ways to lose.
My only gripe so far is how long the game takes to setup and tear down. In the future, if I feel like busting out a quick and dirty co-op game, I'll reach for Pandemic. If I want a longer, more thematic experience, Dead of Winter it shall be. I'm glad I have both options in my collection!
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
antiquegamer
Member
Me neither, and I placed about 4-5 orders with them. That said, I would rather get stuffs from Cool Stuff because MM take so much longer to ship. Though, my last order came 2 days before promise date for some reason they change from that lame Fed Ex Post to regular Post Office delivery.
Any of you guys here try the Gallerist or Vinhos? I never played any of his game and wondering how it is. My local store have the Gallerist and we get 20% discount on Euro game day but I don't know if I want to pull the trigger on $80.00 games that I might not get to the table often. I watch video and the game seem like good solid worker placement and less crazy than Kanban.
Welcome to the rabbit hole. If you need an escort, take my hand.
*takes hand*
*flips over encounter card*
"Eliminate all your heroes"
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bonesmccoy
Banned
I'm hunting for this now. I've been on the lookout for a cooperative/solo game that I can 'play' with my kids (they're 8/6/4, so they'd be helping me) who happen to adore Hobbit/Lord of the Rings stuff. My hope was to bring this along on an upcoming family ski trip.
Just my luck though: I discover a local games store I had no idea existed after chatting to a sales clerk at a toy store, head over, and they'd just recently sold their last copy.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Hahaha.
Ha.
...You're not wrong.
But really, despite the bullshit, the game is amazing.
I was by a gaming store today so I went in and ended up picking up a copy of Grand Austria Hotel. It's been pretty well reviewed so I figured I would give it a shot. Also one of the designers also made T'zolkin and The Voyages of Marco Polo, so that's a big plus in my book.
I actually think Warhammer Quest takes the best part of the LOTR LCG and the best parts of the Pathfinder ACG and synthesizes it into a game that's more fun to play and flows better than either.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
I really want a copy of this, but it's just impossible to get here in the states at the moment. As soon as my CSI wishlist notification blows up, it will be bought.
antiquegamer
Member
If they enjoy LoTR and Hobbit they will love it. My kids were a little older when I got LoTR and they enjoy it, though it was hard to teach the younger one. Also I sort of teach them Magic the Gathering about the same time and they learn about deckbuilding and making deck. It was great fun.
After we failed miserably 2-3 times, my girlfriend has firmly decided to never play Warhammer ACG again unless we have 3+ players.
Sadly like other 4-player max games, I tried to pull it out at a game night, but the group of people suddenly turned into 5 because someone walked in late. Well, can't play it! Then immediately after I packed it up, someone quit and we ended up playing a different game with 4 players.
Sadly like other 4-player max games, I tried to pull it out at a game night, but the group of people suddenly turned into 5 because someone walked in late. Well, can't play it! Then immediately after I packed it up, someone quit and we ended up playing a different game with 4 players.
Vincent Alexander
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Anyone here play Kingdom Death Monster? I've been dying to get it for months now, and could never pull the trigger because of the price. Curious if anyone here has tried and what their thoughts are.
I played the intro scenario.
Its uh...a game I guess. Personally thought it was way too complicated to be any fun.
Nice minis.
It's amazing. It's got a really nice design in terms of integrating narrative into the campaign. The art is fantastic. The things that can happening are disturbingly amazing. The minis are gorgeous.
It's basically Darkest Dungeon: The Board Game.
As long as you don't mind putting together the models, it's a really stellar, unique, innovative game. Highly recommend. The best part is that you don't play a single character; you collectively play the population of your settlement, so anyone can jump into your campaign at any time for however long you want them to and it's seamless.
been playing it with a friend.
feels a lot like a roguelike being made into a board game.
if money is no object it's a fun pick up... at the price... it's really hard to recommend though.
toddhunter
Member
I decided to put incan gold in sleeves, because the cards were showing some wear. After that, I had enough sleeves left to do another game...and fell three sleeves short. From about half way through the cards, I knew I was not going to make it.
Fuck.
Fuck.
Army Painter makes a spray primer in zombie color if you get lazy and want to bang a bunch out quick. Good for doing Zombicide.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Thankfully, I'm done with zombies. They aren't hard to paint, but getting skin tone right is...Well, annoying.
Also finished a few others this weekend!
With the new Frontier Town expansion having come out, I can't wait to put this game on the table again. Still a shit ton of painting to do, but progress is progress!
EYEL1NER
Member
Just a couple more days and I will be home for good! I need to continue packing today, getting all these board games in hard plastic Gorilla cases to be shipped home through USPS (I'm up to seven of these trunks already, though two of those are strictly CDs and movies in one and books in another. I'm using cardboard boxes for all my 40K stuff). Soon all my games will be in one place and finally I will be located in that one place with them.
My plan this weekend is to finally start playing Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective with my wife, maybe Saturday night if I am not too tired from traveling all day Friday. I just backed Mythos Tales, so I want to get this experience out of the way so as to put some space between it and SHCD. I don't want her to not want to play Mythos Tales when it gets fulfilled because SHCD was too recent.
And since 8th Summit has items on sale for the duration of their current KS, I ordered the 2E copy of Agents of SMERSH with Lobo bust, Showdown book, and all promos. I've always liked the looks of it and wanted to try it or Arabian Nights. A couple reviews have me thinking it might be simple enough for my daughter to play with my wife and I.
My plan this weekend is to finally start playing Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective with my wife, maybe Saturday night if I am not too tired from traveling all day Friday. I just backed Mythos Tales, so I want to get this experience out of the way so as to put some space between it and SHCD. I don't want her to not want to play Mythos Tales when it gets fulfilled because SHCD was too recent.
And since 8th Summit has items on sale for the duration of their current KS, I ordered the 2E copy of Agents of SMERSH with Lobo bust, Showdown book, and all promos. I've always liked the looks of it and wanted to try it or Arabian Nights. A couple reviews have me thinking it might be simple enough for my daughter to play with my wife and I.
Polioliolio
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bonesmccoy
Banned
My local game stores need to brush up on their sales approach. Contacted 4/5 stores looking for LotR, and only one actually responded with an offer to help track a copy down.
I got LOTR: the Living Card Game (the core set) and played the first time this evening.
I played the easiest Quest, A Passage through Mirkwood, using the Tactics deck. I got stomped a bunch of times but did manage to win once (at least I think did - I probably made some mistakes). Apparently Tactics monosphere is not so good for playing solo.
I'll play monosphere decks for a while to learn the game, and then try combining decks.
Really nice artwork!
I played the easiest Quest, A Passage through Mirkwood, using the Tactics deck. I got stomped a bunch of times but did manage to win once (at least I think did - I probably made some mistakes). Apparently Tactics monosphere is not so good for playing solo.
I'll play monosphere decks for a while to learn the game, and then try combining decks.
Really nice artwork!
There a reason why lot of folks seem to be trying out LOTR LCG recently? Was it on SU&SD or something? Yeah, game has really great production values and a pretty good system. I bailed on it pretty quick though when I realized I wasn't gonna be able to get anyone else into it. Pretty awesome if you are looking for a solo community experience though with all the deckbuilding and the like.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Glad you're enjoying it. Playing solo from the core set can be really hit or miss. For example, the Tactics deck is great at combat but does not have enough willpower to quest effectively. It's very easy to get location screwed with that deck. However, there are great resources out there on how you can build a really solid dual or tri sphere deck with just the core cards. There's a thread on BGG that I can hunt down if you want it.
As for why people are suddenly interested in it again, I can only imagine WHQ ACG and the new Sentinels expansion have something to do with it. Talk of new card games may be striking up interest in them as a whole. What's great about it is that you don't need two people ever to play the game. Single hand solo is a really solid way to play the game. I think every single scenario is beatable this way, too. There's one or two Nightmare decks that will be nigh impossible without cheese decks, but they can be beat!
Beorn's Path helped me immensely when starting LOTR LCG, especially solo.
Keep in mind that despite what FFG says, their LCGs are not meant to played as "board games" (e.g. just buy 1 copy and play). It's really balanced around assuming you have 3copies of each card and what not.
That said, LCGs are great fun. I'm fully bought into Netrunner and AGoT 2e and thinking about LOTR
(my roommate has 1 core set and we might buy more).
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Keep in mind that despite what FFG says, their LCGs are not meant to played as "board games" (e.g. just buy 1 copy and play). It's really balanced around assuming you have 3copies of each card and what not.
That said, LCGs are great fun. I'm fully bought into Netrunner and AGoT 2e and thinking about LOTR
Or do what I did and make your own copies of the missing cards from the core set. I don't agree with having to buy multiple core sets. And I tend to think FFG realized they made a mistake given that every single expansion after has 3 copies of every player card, ha.
Nah, all their LCG core sets don't include 3sets of every card. It's a calculated decision on their part. AGOT, for example, has ~200 unique cards in the core set (there are 8 factions or "spheres" in the game). It's cost prohibitive to include 600 cards at a reasonable cost. I was able to dip my toes in the game for 25$ and then decide if I want more.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
That's insane. There's no way I'd buy 3 copies of a core set for one game. That's SO many wasted cards.
Yeah I can't accept this as an argument. If the lowered price in core from not printing full sets is a reason to draw in new players, then they should also make and sell sets of the missing copies at a lowered cost compared to core. That way they aren't printing out tons of the common cards that are effectively worthless to the consumers since nobody needs them.
Edit: AGOT is a bit of an exception I guess. I haven't played it but looking at the core card list the uniques really outnumber the multiples in the core. My experience was more targeted at Netrunner, where multiple cores really only gets you like, 30 cards, of which you really only need like 10 for max efficiency.
Yeah. LCGs are meant to be a better version of CCGs, not board games. I have 2 binders of Netrunner cards which has a little over 800 unique cards for ~2500 total cards. I only play with ~100 of them at a given time. Still cost less to get all that than a top-tier Magic deck though.
There's no such thing as a "common" card in LCGs. It's a fixed distribution. There are plenty of cards in the Netrunner core set that are still the defacto card for certain decks. LCGs (typically) don't just print a bunch of 3mana 2/2 creatures to fill space. Each card is "rare" in strength but approaches the mechanics of the game differently.
Yeah, AGOT is the "best" in this regard as the 3 cores really feels meaningful. I actually only have 2 Netrunner core sets since I'd be buying 3rd core set essentially for SanSan City Grid and Desparado. All that said though, this is *only* an issue with the core sets and they never cycle out. It's also nice to have the extra copies of certain key economy cards so you can more easily have multiple decks at once built. I think nitpicking this is not seeing the forest for the trees, or whatever, when it comes to CCG/LCGs.
antiquegamer
Member
Unless you play competitively I don't see why you would really need to buy 3 core set. You can make competent decks with core set and some expansions.
We played with just one set and few expansion and we had great fun. We stop playing as the kids got older and I no longer have the time to do deckbuildings.
The saga expansions are also good way to make starter deck with just a core. I wish back when we got into Lotr these were available.
We played with just one set and few expansion and we had great fun. We stop playing as the kids got older and I no longer have the time to do deckbuildings.
The saga expansions are also good way to make starter deck with just a core. I wish back when we got into Lotr these were available.
I was just using common to refer to the 3-ofs in a core set instead of the uniques. Getting multiple cores still floods you extra 'commons' that you can't do anything with.
I guess you're talking about netrunner since the competitive remark? If so I'd say that you want at least 2 core sets for netrunner if you want anything consistent. Having only 1 desperado is pretty rough, as well as only 2 melange mining.
Ehh, I'm not saying the CCG model is better, in fact I prefer the LCG model. But my thoughts on the LCG motto is a "buy once and get a complete system" and having to purchase multiple cores for a complete collection is a total disappointment.
Ah OK, wasn't sure you were familiar with the LCG model. You can play LOTR competitively. There's a crazy scoring mechanism at the end of the game to figure out an overall winner.
antiquegamer
Member
You can play Lotr competitively, FFG have tournament for the game. But yeah same with all the other LCG in their stable and I don't disagree about Netrunner and Conquest need more than one core for better experience. (We played Netrunner with just core but we were not heavily invested.). I think their idea is two people each buy a core and then share cards. Perhaps they could do a single faction starter but I never find their model to be prohibitively expensive. You can usually find their core at deep discount on line.
Barrylocke
Member
Went to play more boardgames at the bar. We did Dead of Winter, Once Upon a Time, and Bonanza. Once Upon a Time and Dead of Winter were my favorites in very different ways. Dead of Winter combined working together with completing your own goals, and Once Upon a Time was very interpretive and would be an interesting party game.
Netrunner straight out of box is surprisingly good and balanced if you don't mind a good deal of swinginess (whether you draw your console). But the data backs it up as being good matchups in there. You just have to completely ignore the fact that there is any competitive scene
(which frankly you need much more than another core to get into anyway).Machspeed007
Member
I play Lotr LCG solo beacause of the questing and lore aspect. And it has great artwork.
The other LCG I collect is Android Netrunner , I play it with my friends and is very good.
I intend to keep on collecting both and the Legend of the Five Rings LCG when it will come out (hope is good gameplay wise).
The other LCG I collect is Android Netrunner , I play it with my friends and is very good.
I intend to keep on collecting both and the Legend of the Five Rings LCG when it will come out (hope is good gameplay wise).
antiquegamer
Member
Netrunner straight out of box is surprisingly good and balanced if you don't mind a good deal of swinginess (whether you draw your console). But the data backs it up as being good matchups in there. You just have to completely ignore the fact that there is any competitive scene
Yes, I think they did a good job with the later LCG, Conquest and Star Wars also play good with just core set (though as ex-CCG junkie, I can see the potential of the deck by getting more cards in the core set).
I haven't play much of the 2 players game since my son move away. Probably should think about putting them up sale. We were heavily into Star Wars LCG at one point and bought a lot of expansions.
I have always wanted to get into more serious board games but none of my close friend were into them, I love just any kind of game in general whether its, video games, sports, or just the classic board games.
I didn't know anything about them but back in January my wife and I visited some friends who happened to be into them. They introduced us to Settlers of Catan which was fun and then brought out Pandemic....that changed everything. My wife likes games also but it's no fun to just play 1v1 against each other. We had no idea co-op games were a thing.
It's now been a little over a month and we now own, Forbidden Desert, Pandemic, Castle Panic and Eldritch Horror. We are hooked.
I didn't know anything about them but back in January my wife and I visited some friends who happened to be into them. They introduced us to Settlers of Catan which was fun and then brought out Pandemic....that changed everything. My wife likes games also but it's no fun to just play 1v1 against each other. We had no idea co-op games were a thing.
It's now been a little over a month and we now own, Forbidden Desert, Pandemic, Castle Panic and Eldritch Horror. We are hooked.
That is great. It's also cool to see that what most of us call gateway games do totally work. There are also great competitive games out there that are made just to be played with two people. Perfect if you enjoy playing just with your wife. But if you enjoy coop so much keep doing that. The genre is really big enough these days and has more than enough variety.
woo and indeed hoo
Banned
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Just finished putting all my player card for LOTR into binder sleeves last night. 3 of each card in every slot. Only missing the latest cycle. There are SO many cards. :| I need to take a picture of this ridiculousness.
my wife and I mostly do co op games ourselves.
If you enjoy Pandemic and want something more fantasy and involved Defenders of the Realm can be fun. (I recommend both players play two characters though)
Dead of winter is of course the popular co op game and it plays decently with 2 people.
My wife and I enjoy sentinals of the multiverse (much like defenders of the realm it's best played with both players playing two characters) there is an app for it on steam/ios/android if you want to try it out on the cheap.
The Marvel Legendary card game is also fun (this one you can do just fine with two players) you can also get it in a alien flavor if you like.
Finally the pathfinder card game is usually a good time as well (double up on characters with this one though as you need to be able to have characters that are good at each skill)
I don't know if you were looking for any recommendations lol, but I figured I would comment anyways since more than half my gaming time is spent with co op games lol.
some people just can't play competitive games lol.
My wife is one of those people.
She is surprisingly competitive (as in general she is pretty quiet and shyish)
end result in a 1 vs 1 game she always loses.
either she loses which frustrates her or she wins but assumes I took it easy on her even though she is a skilled gamer lol.
we only don't have this problem with more lighthearted games like red dragon inn (which has a new kickstarter soon for a new version of the game (cooperative adventuring with the characters) which looks neat)
Get Hanabi (it's super cheap!) and test your marriage. I came across this video this other day while looking for games for me and the GF. It has some solid recommendations (we've played 4/5 of them). I need to buy Sherlock...
antiquegamer
Member
Didn't you just get into this game like couple months ago? :O
Well I backed Vinhos and pull the trigger on the Gallerist after watching a lot of YouTubes and reading on BGG. But man there sure is a lot of people on BGG that hate on Eagle Gryphon Games, almost as bad as CMON. I thought video gamers were bunch of whiney entitle bunch but us board gamers I think are even worst.