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New Dragon Ball Z Animated Film Announced For 2015

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Yeah I saw that. Also Bulma tells Goten and Trunks to go into hiding or something.

These are the same people who let a 6 year old Gohan go to Namek, an 11 year old Gohan fight Cell, and made 7/8 year old Goten and Trunks fight Buu.

Now they're both in there teens and can go SSJ3 if they fuse and they're worried about Frieza......smh.
 
So Buu's sleeping and Trunks and Goten are hiding or whatever, but why isn't 18 helping? She's more powerful than Krillen, Tien, and Roshi...
and tracksuit Gohan.
 

Magwik

Banned
It's diffiuclt for me to take Frieza serious with the Jap voices mainly because I now identify the voice with Ceaser from One Piece.
 

Kagari

Crystal Bearer
These are the same people who let a 6 year old Gohan go to Namek, an 11 year old Gohan fight Cell, and made 7/8 year old Goten and Trunks fight Buu.

Now they're both in there teens and can go SSJ3 if they fuse and they're worried about Frieza......smh.

The "reasoning" was that Goten looks too much like Goku and the whole thing with Future Trunks having sliced Freeza up the first time...
 

HardRojo

Member
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Welp...
Oh come the fuck on Toriyama! Are you for real!? I really liked Battle of Gods what kind of mental gymnastics is he gonna pull this time?

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So Buu's sleeping and Trunks and Goten are hiding or whatever, but why isn't 18 helping? She's more powerful than Krillen, Tien, and Roshi...
and tracksuit Gohan.

Seriously. Trunks destroyed Freeza, and 18 purged Trunk's entire world in one timeline... so what's the deal.

Besides her being a mum. Whatever, lame excuse.
 

MikeMyers

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I mean... GT was just all around bad. From watered-down Trunks to kid-Goku. Just a whole lot of terrible fan fiction gone wrong.

The only character's story in GT who I didn't mind too much was Pan.
GT had silly ideas like Base Goku being better than everyone, everyone circling around Goku to power him up, and bringing back Freeza.

Wait a second...
 

NeonZ

Member
Yeah I saw that. Also Bulma tells Goten and Trunks to go into hiding or something.

She actually hides it from them that Freeza has appeared, and Gohan agrees since they're too "reckless" or whatever.

It kind of makes sense if you look at the Son Goku and Friends Return special. They were facing a weaker enemy, and yet were still about to allow him to cause quite a bit of damage.
 

Alienous

Member
Yeah I saw that. Also Bulma tells Goten and Trunks to go into hiding or something.

It's the best writing I've seen come out of any of this post Z stuff.

"You guys look exactly like Goku and Trunks, the two people who killed Frieza, and you aren't nearly as powerful. You'll get killed on sight by Frieza. Go hide".

It's a really smart way of writing those characters out of this film.
 

Kagari

Crystal Bearer
She actually hides it from them that Freeza has appeared, and Gohan agrees since they're too "reckless" or whatever.

It kind of makes sense if you look at the Son Goku and Friends Return special. They were facing a weaker enemy, and yet were still about to allow him to cause quite a bit of damage.

I still rolled my eyes when I read about it lol.
 
Wonder what blue hair Saiyan will be called.

Wonder how it fits in

Super Saiyan
Ultra Super Saiyan (half form)
Super Saiyan 2
Super Saiyan 3
Super Saiyan God
Blue Hair Saiyan
Legendary Super Saiyan
Super Saiyan 4
 
It's the best writing I've seen come out of any of this post Z stuff.

"You guys look exactly like Goku and Trunks, the two people who killed Frieza, and you aren't nearly as powerful. You'll get killed on sight by Frieza. Go hide".

It's a really smart way of writing those characters out of this film.

It isn't when those two should be stronger than Frieza individually by now and are much stronger than him if they were to fuse. They don't know that Frieza got a huge powerup, they shouldn't be so worried about Frieza yet.
 
Is there a reason nobody fuses when facing new bad guys in these movies?

Depends on what fusion. Potara is likely impossible because of the earrings not being around.

Not sure about the dance, probs because of the time limit problem.

A new fusion from Whis could be cool.
 

Kilrogg

paid requisite penance
Is there a reason nobody fuses when facing new bad guys in these movies?

Good point actually. It would have been fun to see Gogeta struggling against an opponent. Gogeta/Vegeto was always this ultimate undefeatable warrior, so this would have been a nice twist.
 
Good point actually. It would have been fun to see Gogeta struggling against an opponent. Gogeta/Vegeto was always this ultimate undefeatable warrior, so this would have been a nice twist.

Goku says that even fusing wouldn't be enough to beat Beerus, the line wasn't in the theatrical version
 

Kilrogg

paid requisite penance
Goku says that even fusing wouldn't be enough to beat Beerus, the line wasn't in the theatrical version

It's been a while since I watched this piece of- I mean film, but IIRC doesn't Goku fight Beerus for a while before even turning SSJ God? If he's gonna do pointless fighting, he might as well do the less pointless thing, which is fusing with Vegeta to have a slight chance of winning.
 

NeonZ

Member
GT had silly ideas like Base Goku being better than everyone, everyone circling around Goku to power him up, and bringing back Freeza.

Wait a second...

Aside from the story, GT also had horrible battle choreography. They couldn't even remember that Goku doesn't spam ki blasts and the show focused almost entirely on him!

Anyway, even when you mention similarities like those, I think it just makes GT look bad. Receiving powers from others in order to face Beerus is necessary, but it's something that Goku doesn't like doing, and he let's everyone else attempt to face Beerus before stepping in. Compare to GT where he tells Goten and Trunks to not bother fusing and fighting and how they should just give him their power, and that's against an extremely weakened Baby.

Freeza was brought back in GT as a complete joke, alongside Cell, as just another reason to not give any screentime to the secondary cast even before Goku gets to face Super 17. Here, Freeza is brought back as a real threat, and apparently everyone else is getting fighting scenes against other foes.


It's been a while since I watched this piece of- I mean film, but IIRC doesn't Goku fight Beerus for a while before even turning SSJ God? If he's gonna do pointless fighting, he might as well do the less pointless thing, which is fusing with Vegeta to have a slight chance of winning.

He fights against him as a SSJ3 in the beginning of the movie. But he doesn't know his true power at that point. Afterwards, he doesn't fight again until getting the SSJ God power. What happens is that he runs out of the God time limit during the battle, but keeps some of its power in base and SSJ, before turning back into SSJ God by himself.

And Base Goku being better than everyone is just plain untrue in the new movies. GT didn't have a Beerus and Whis. And even when they brought Vegeta to Goku's level in GT they had to talk about how Goku was an innate genius and Vegeta needed the artificial waves in order to keep up with him. Also, when Base Goku got a huge boost in BoGs, there was an explanation, unlike in GT.
 
It's been a while since I watched this piece of- I mean film, but IIRC doesn't Goku fight Beerus for a while before even turning SSJ God? If he's gonna do pointless fighting, he might as well do the less pointless thing, which is fusing with Vegeta to have a slight chance of winning.

That was before when he was with King Kai and didn't know how powerful Beerus was before he got jobbed.
 

A Pretty Panda

fuckin' called it, man
Seriously at the end of the buu arc Vegeta accepts he sucks and that Goku's better.

And they even followed through in battle of gods


I know at the end he's like "next time I get the power up" but I thought he was just fucking around
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
Aside from the story, GT also had horrible battle choreography. They couldn't even remember that Goku doesn't spam ki blasts and the show focused almost entirely on him!

Anyway, even when you mention similarities like those, I think it just makes GT look bad. Receiving powers from others in order to face Beerus is necessary, but it's something that Goku doesn't like doing, and he let's everyone else attempt to face Beerus before stepping in. Compare to GT where he tells Goten and Trunks to not bother fusing and fighting and how they should just give him their power, and that's against an extremely weakened Baby.

Freeza was brought back in GT as a complete joke, alongside Cell, as just another reason to not give any screentime to the secondary cast even before Goku gets to face Super 17. Here, Freeza is brought back as a real threat, and apparently everyone else is getting fighting scenes against other foes.




He fights against him as a SSJ3 in the beginning of the movie. But he doesn't know his true power at that point. Afterwards, he doesn't fight again until getting the SSJ God power. What happens is that he runs out of the God time limit during the battle, but keeps some of its power in base and SSJ, before turning back into SSJ God by himself.

And Base Goku being better than everyone is just plain untrue in the new movies. GT didn't have a Beerus and Whis. And even when they brought Vegeta to Goku's level in GT they had to talk about how Goku was an innate genius and Vegeta needed the artificial waves in order to keep up with him. Also, when Base Goku got a huge boost in BoGs, there was an explanation, unlike in GT.

base goku is weaker than 100% Frieza in BoG.

In GT, base kid goku is stronger than Frieza (Who has been training in Hell).
He's stronger than super perfect cell (Who has been training in Hell).
He's even stronger than General Rilldo (who is stronger than Majin Buu).


Omega Shenron is a galaxy/universe buster - I think they said that his negative energy would destroy the universe within 1 earth day if unchecked.
 

Merc_

Member
lol at people complaining that Toriyama is lazy while simultaneously complaining that Gohan didn't grow up to be Goku 2.0. I always liked that present Gohan and Trunks reflected growing up in a world that didn't go to shit. What you guys want would have been a good example of being lazy.

Also, bring on blue SSJG Goku and Vegeta. I want more crazy and silly power ups. It's part of the beauty of not taking Dragonball too seriously.
 

Blader

Member
Aside from the story, GT also had horrible battle choreography. They couldn't even remember that Goku doesn't spam ki blasts and the show focused almost entirely on him!

This is the worst part. I don't even mind a lot of the writing and think some of the story ideas are pretty cool (how they're executed is a different). But the show is just so ugly and boring to look at, and the fights are completely lifeless. It's just not exciting at all.
 
base goku is weaker than 100% Frieza in BoG.

I don't necessarily buy that.

Goku is probably walking around with a power level that a scouter would say is like 5,000.
Just because Goku in his base form not powered up isn't stronger than Frieza, that doesn't mean if he actually powered up he couldn't take him.

Goku has been known to be able to keep his energy levels extremely low when he's not actually fighting.
 
There was a time in Middle School, where i actually thought this was real. I had 5 or 6 people all telling me it was on HBO, and giving me detailed episode synopses. I spent days trying to watch it, before i looked online, and found out it was fake. -_-
All them live action DBZ rumors you would hear like Vin Diesel playing Tien. lol
man everytime I come back in here I see future gohan and swoon then I scroll down to see F gohan and...

goddamnit.
What we could have had:

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It would have been a nice call back and next progression to when Gohan carried around a sword.

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