New Fantastic Four Trailer

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Thinking about it, I do remember people ragging on DoFP.

Quicksilver, the MARVEL logo thing, the costumes, the poster (though I think I gave that shit too), even the food commercials. Did people hate the trailers?
 
Nope. People were convinced it was going to splat-pack on the pavement like a balloon filled with shit from 30 stories up.

Come to think ofit... remembered First Class also had an uphill battle

It was like cast and filmed in like under a year, and we all thought was gonna bea disaster
 
Nope. People were convinced it was going to splat-pack on the pavement like a balloon filled with shit from 30 stories up.

People only thought that from the first shitty trailers that showed us nothing. Once we got the full and real trailers, people started turning around. Some things folks never got over, like Quicksilver
 
Even issue #1 of The Fnatastic Four barely devotes any time to their backstory. It has a flashback that lasts two or three pages with the FF going into space and getting powers and then jumps right into them on some adventure. Hell, nothing is ever really explained, they just live in a decked out Baxter building and have the Fantasti-car and whatnot within the first three issues without there ever being an explanation as to how they got everything.

Superhero films could learn something from this method of storytelling. If the people want a superhero story, then give them a superhero story and don't waste a whole act explaining how they got powers and then take the entire film to establish all of the lore surrounding the characters. Start with them being a superhero and you don't need to explain how they got all the gadgets and cars and buildings, the audience can just assume it happened some time in the past.

That's one of the things that Batman 89 did right. Just jumped into him being Batman. With all due respect to some of the great super hero origin movies, a super hero being a super hero will always be more interesting than a super hero learning to be a super hero.
 
There were lots of people that thought Fury Road wasn't going to be very good. It only did moderately well in the box office but I don't think anyone predicted the kind of critical reception it got.
 
There were lots of people that thought Fury Road wasn't going to be very good. It only did moderately well in the box office but I don't think anyone predicted the kind of critical reception it got.

So far that movie is my favorite this year. I know they are talking about a sequel. I kind of suspect that whenever the sequel comes out to Fury Road, that it will make lot more money due to how much positive word of mouth Fury Road had.
 
Nope. People were convinced it was going to splat-pack on the pavement like a balloon filled with shit from 30 stories up.

There were a few of us on the side of DoFP before it hit. I was on the cautiously optimistic side.

I am not optimistic in any way about Fantastic Four though. But, it would be nice if it was good.
 
To be fair, what was the last superhero movie that didn't do well at the box office? They're easy to watch, not polarizing, very mainstream. If your group has to decide between a bunch of different movies or genres, it's an easy choice.

Wouldn't be surprised if F4 did well even if it's shit.
 
To be fair, what was the last superhero movie that didn't do well at the box office? They're easy to watch, not polarizing, very mainstream. If your group has to decide between a bunch of different movies or genres, it's an easy choice.

Wouldn't be surprised if F4 did well even if it's shit.

Green Lantern

Domestic: $116,601,172 53.0%
+ Foreign: $103,250,000 47.0%
= Worldwide: $219,851,172

On a $200 million budget, plus god knows how much marketing money.
 
fantastic four has cheaper budget though. with around $120 million budget (according to wiki), how much do they need to at least break even? $250 million? that didn't seem much nowadays especially for action pop corn flick. this movie will have Marvel logo as well whether Marvel like it or not.

I think this movie will probably make profit even if the reviews are bad.
 
Both TMNT and WWZ ended up sucking though. Unless you're saying that people expected them to suck even more than they already did. In that case, yeah I guess.

compared to the original TMNT film that was probably financed by bookies and loan sharks the latest film was an abject failure considering how popular the TMNT brand is worldwide. The original made like 135 mil domestic ...in 1990...thats like 4- 8 dollar tickets man. Adjust for inflation and one has to wonder ...who snorted a whole lunch room table length of coke and said lets spend a ton of money on a movie we could do for 50 million dollars? bunch of martial artists, suits beat asses, how is this hard?

Just proof you dont wan't the money, NO take this foul currency from my SIGHT i cast thee OUT!
 
not polarizing, .

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fantastic four has cheaper budget though. with around $120 million budget (according to wiki), how much do they need to at least break even? $250 million? that didn't seem much nowadays especially for action pop corn flick. this movie will have Marvel logo as well whether Marvel like it or not.

I think this movie will probably make profit even if the reviews are bad.
I do wonder just how much they're spending on marketing. Seems like it's been about the last 2 and some change months that I've seen commercials for the movie at minimum once any hour I'm watching..but about 3 an hour randomly.

Seems like a lot, for a very long period of time.
 
compared to the original TMNT film that was probably financed by bookies and loan sharks the latest film was an abject failure considering how popular the TMNT brand is worldwide. The original made like 135 mil domestic ...in 1990...thats like 4- 8 dollar tickets man. Adjust for inflation and one has to wonder ...who snorted a whole lunch room table length of coke and said lets spend a ton of money on a movie we could do for 50 million dollars? bunch of martial artists, suits beat asses, how is this hard?

Just proof you dont wan't the money, NO take this foul currency from my SIGHT i cast thee OUT!

The new TMNT is actually a runaway success, in spite of its quality. Its sequel was greenlit pretty much after the first week numbers came in.

Fox would be ecstatic if FF made close to $500 million. I don't think Trank has the same penchant that Bay (or even a Snyder) has for getting directly in the bloodstream of people who want mindless blockbusters though. Those guys cut a trailer and you know kids are lining up to buy tickets, a t-shirt, and a plushie.

wwz wasn't bad it just suffered from a not great third act and completely ignored its source material

WWZ is a stunningly mediocre zombie horror film that tries to get away with a PG-13 rating that also happens to be one of the worst adaptations of popular fiction in the last 25 years.
 
To be fair, what was the last superhero movie that didn't do well at the box office? They're easy to watch, not polarizing, very mainstream. If your group has to decide between a bunch of different movies or genres, it's an easy choice.

Wouldn't be surprised if F4 did well even if it's shit.

I mean Green Lantern was the last real bomb wasn't it? Or Ghost Rider 2. Even the Amazing Spider-Man movies made money, didn't they?
 
compared to the original TMNT film that was probably financed by bookies and loan sharks the latest film was an abject failure considering how popular the TMNT brand is worldwide. The original made like 135 mil domestic ...in 1990...thats like 4- 8 dollar tickets man. Adjust for inflation and one has to wonder ...who snorted a whole lunch room table length of coke and said lets spend a ton of money on a movie we could do for 50 million dollars? bunch of martial artists, suits beat asses, how is this hard?

Just proof you dont wan't the money, NO take this foul currency from my SIGHT i cast thee OUT!

You're pretty crazy tbh.

Also TMNT did beat GOTG for a week. Hype! It got the green huehuehuue
 
compared to the original TMNT film that was probably financed by bookies and loan sharks the latest film was an abject failure considering how popular the TMNT brand is worldwide. The original made like 135 mil domestic ...in 1990...thats like 4- 8 dollar tickets man. Adjust for inflation and one has to wonder ...who snorted a whole lunch room table length of coke and said lets spend a ton of money on a movie we could do for 50 million dollars? bunch of martial artists, suits beat asses, how is this hard?

Just proof you dont wan't the money, NO take this foul currency from my SIGHT i cast thee OUT!

TMNT was a huge success. Michael Bay makes that dollar.
 
I mean Green Lantern was the last real bomb wasn't it? Or Ghost Rider 2. Even the Amazing Spider-Man movies made money, didn't they?

According to Sony's leaked emails, ASM2 probably just broke even. The list of most profitable movies of 2014 has it at just over $70 million in profit after $709 million in ticket sales (http://deadline.com/2015/03/most-profitable-movies-of-2014-box-office-1201390489/).

They somehow lost money on MiB3, which cost $40 million less to produce and grossed just $80 million less WW. If you make and market a movie with the idea that it's going to gross a billion, you can lose your damn shirt if you make "only" 700 million. Minions cost like $75 million to produce + $600 million in marketing, it'd be a complete bomb if it only made $700 million.

FF probably has to make in the range of $400 million to make a sequel with the same cast a sure thing.
 
According to Sony's leaked emails, ASM2 probably just broke even. The list of most profitable movies of 2014 has it at just over $70 million in profit after $709 million in ticket sales (http://deadline.com/2015/03/most-profitable-movies-of-2014-box-office-1201390489/).

They somehow lost money on MiB3, which cost $40 million less to produce and grossed just $80 million less WW. If you make and market a movie with the idea that it's going to gross a billion, you can lose your damn shirt if you make "only" 700 million. Minions cost like $75 million to produce + $600 million in marketing, it'd be a complete bomb if it only made $700 million.

FF probably has to make in the range of $400 million to make a sequel with the same cast a sure thing.

wasn't that $600M minions number including marketing deals? things where universal pays mcdonalds 10M to make minions toys and mcd's spends 40M more making the toys and putting them in kid's meals?
 
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