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[Bobby Roberts]

Minions cost like $75 million to produce + $600 million in marketing, it'd be a complete bomb if it only made $700 million.

A large chunk of that marketing is subsidized via licensing deals with marketing partners. Universal didn't necessarily spend anywhere near 600 million of their own money on the marketing, rather they spent money paid to them by toy manufacturers, food vendors, clothes manufacturers, so on and so forth.

If it only made $700 mil, it might have been considered slightly disappointing, but no way would it have been considered a bomb.

edit: 1 beat me to it by a couple minutes.

 

[Slayven]

Colossus tearing an ACL during the sentinel attack ....

When in metal form Colossus' internal form is made from some extra dimension energy. He would have no ACL to tear

 

[Nappuccino]

I meant not polarizing as in choosing to go see it (compared to not feeling like seeing a comedy or horror movie for example). Tons of people thought MoS sucked but they still paid to watch it.

Zack Snyder knows how to film shots for a trailer. And whoever edits the trailers (Snyder or an advertising team) know how to edit the shit out of his trailers. His trailers exude "I'm a fucking awesome movie," though I think many are finally learning he over promises.

The Fantastic Four trailers have been just . . . OK.

 

[Combat Wombat]

I get pissed off every time I rewatch MOS's third trailer. That shit was masterful.

 

[Rhaknar]

When in metal form Colossus' internal form is made from some extra dimension energy. He would have no ACL to tear

Whut?

 

[Future Foundation]

I think some (most/all?) of you are into movie soundtracks. The score from Glass + Beltrami is available for pre-order on iTunes and is streaming now on Spotify.

 

[Triggerhappytel]

they should of just never made them young adults .it just doesn't feel right seeing reed in his 20s

The actors in the film are aged 28 (Teller and Jordan), 29 (Bell) and 32 (Mara). Would them being two years older really make any difference? Plus Evans and Alba were in their mid 20s during the other FF films, so were you bothered about that?

Which would honestly be for the best, if only so we can get an actual adaptation of Dr. Doom.

Spoiler

Played by Mads Mikkelson.

Oh shit man, that's... that's bloody perfect. He's a terrific actor and could totally nail a creepy genius with an overbearing sense of superiority.

...and then you realize this is their third attempt. By the time the FF rights make their way back to Marvel, how much will the brand even be worth at that point?

I think the villains are far more valuable than the FF themselves; Doom, Galactus and Silver Surfer. I'd like to see them get decent adaptations on screen; especially Doom. Hopeful for this version of him, but based on what we've seen I ain't holding my breath.

 

[Neoxon]

I think some (most/all?) of you are into movie soundtracks. The score from Glass + Beltrami is available for pre-order on iTunes and is streaming now on Spotify.

Already gave it a listen. As someone pointed out here on GAF, it's somewhat easy to tell who composed what. Not that I don't like the individual tracks, but they just don't mesh that well together.

 

[Messypandas]

I think some (most/all?) of you are into movie soundtracks. The score from Glass + Beltrami is available for pre-order on iTunes and is streaming now on Spotify.

 

[Rootbeer]

I think some (most/all?) of you are into movie soundtracks. The score from Glass + Beltrami is available for pre-order on iTunes and is streaming now on Spotify.

steaming on apple music. since most of us are on 3 month free trials, check it out for free.

https://itun.es/us/qKP38

 

[Busty]

The movie is out Friday and the cast hasn't seen it yet.

This is actually pretty typical. I knew someone that worked on DOFP and most of the cast only watched the film for the first time the night before the big NY premiere.

The reason they had to all gather together and see the film before the premiere was they all had media commitments before the actual first public outing of the film and had to be able to talk about the finished film etc.

 

[Ganzlinger]

The actors in the film are aged 28 (Teller and Jordan), 29 (Bell) and 32 (Mara). Would them being two years older really make any difference?.

they look a lot younger, like early 20s

 

[TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared]

I was fortunate enough to see this last night

 

[Blader]

Considering the movie was only locked a couple weeks ago, I don't think it's especially weird the cast hasn't seen it yet.

 

[Penguin]

I was fortunate enough to see this last night

Well don't leave us in the dark!

 

[Neoxon]

I was fortunate enough to see this last night

What did you think?

 

[TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared]

What did you think?

Hmm. Without major spoilers or review scores or nothing, not as good as my pinnacle of the genre (that would be the first avengers, Captain America WIS, spider-man 2), not as bad as my most disliked films (amazing spider-man 2, thor 2, the 2008 hulk) but honestly, I don't know if I'd call it good or bad.

 

[Korey]

Some reactions from IMDB users who've seen the movie.

Not sure how reliable.

 

[richiek]

Some reactions from IMDB users who've seen the movie.

Not sure how reliable.

Yeah, it's IMDB, but man that's not good.

Some scenes special effects has the same level as the Sharknado movies, but at least in Sharknado they admitted who bad it is.

Ouch.

 

[Shuggananas]

Some reactions from IMDB users who've seen the movie.

Not sure how reliable.

uhhh.. was thinking of watching it wednesday but now I don't know

 

[DonasaurusRex]

When in metal form Colossus' internal form is made from some extra dimension energy. He would have no ACL to tear

i didnt direct the movie, but he tore something in DOFP right after he dive bombed a sentinel into oblivion lol.

 

[GAMEPROFF]

Hmm. Without major spoilers or review scores or nothing, not as good as my pinnacle of the genre (that would be the first avengers, Captain America WIS, spider-man 2), not as bad as my most disliked films (amazing spider-man 2, thor 2, the 2008 hulk) but honestly, I don't know if I'd call it good or bad.

How is Doom?

 

[tomtom94]

This film is a poor man's MCU film. Same formula, minus the charm.

Saw that coming, same really. I'm starting to wish we could have seen Trank's full vision for the film since at least that sounded unique and interesting.

 

[TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared]

How is Doom?

Worse than the marvel villains people often complain about.

 

[SchrodingerC]

Some reactions from IMDB users who've seen the movie.

Not sure how reliable.

Even though it Is IMDB, there might be grains of truth within those reviews.
Those DOOM descriptions doe...

 

[Banglish]

When Michael B. Jordan sounds bad, I know this will be shite.

 

[Neoxon]

Worse than the marvel villains people often complain about.

;_;

I knew Fox was gonna do Doom dirty, but not that dirty. It breaks my heart since Doom's my 2nd favorite Marvel villain ever (2nd to the Norman Osborn version of Green Goblin).

 

[sleverfunk]

If this bombs. I hope fox would negotiate with marvel. I want Doom with the mcu. Someone needs to do doom justice.

 

[Toa TAK]

Damn. I wouldn't go if I didn't have a free showing but it sucks to hear that the cast wasn't used to their potential. They're the main reason I was so interested in this reboot.

Score is lame, too, aside from the first and last tracks.

 

[Shuggananas]

If this bombs. I hope fox would negotiate with marvel. I want Doom with the mcu. Someone needs to do doom justice.

I don't know if Marvel can do Doom justice either

 

[Neoxon]

Damn. I wouldn't go if I didn't have a free showing but it sucks to hear that the cast wasn't used to their potential. They're the main reason I was so interested in this reboot.

Score is lame, too, aside from the first and last tracks.

This. Granted, this is IMDB we're talking about. But if they're on the money, Fox literally squandered the potential they had with their solid-ass cast.

I don't know if Marvel can do Doom justice either

They got Loki & Kingpin right. And Marvel could easily do a Doctor Doom movie to ensure that they get him right.

 

[sleverfunk]

I don't know if Marvel can do Doom justice either

Oh yeah I just remember most of marvel villains are hit or miss. At least I want to see the try.

 

[Shuggananas]

They got Loki & Kingpin right. And Marvel could easily do a Doctor Doom movie to ensure that they get him right.

I feel they overused loki, and too much goof was used
Kingpin is a different story, not the same format too. But yeah he was cool.

 

[GAMEPROFF]

Are X-Men somehow mentioned?

 

[Slayven]

Whut?

 

[neorej]

This. Granted, this is IMDB we're talking about. But if they're on the money, Fox literally squandered the potential they had with their solid-ass cast.


They got Loki & Kingpin right. And Marvel could easily do a Doctor Doom movie to ensure that they get him right.

But they missed with:
Thanos
Malekith
Whiplash
Red Skull
Iron Monger
Ultron
Ronan

In varying degrees, granted, but none of the movies nailed the villain, which makes you suspect that Kingpin and Loki were more lucky hits rather than meticulously crafted villains. Of course, Kingpin had a lot more time to build, over 13 episodes, one or two even dedicated to him as a character, IIRC.

 

[TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared]

Are X-Men somehow mentioned?

I don't think so. If they were I missed it anyway.

 

[GAMEPROFF]

But they missed with:
Thanos
Malekith
Whiplash
Red Skull
Iron Monger
Ultron
Ronan

Have you access to a Time Machine or how do you know that they fucked over Thanos? Or do you base this on the 1:30 minutes he spend on screen over like 15 movies?

 

[richiek]

I feel they overused loki, and too much goof was used

 

[Messypandas]

Hmm. Without major spoilers or review scores or nothing, not as good as my pinnacle of the genre (that would be the first avengers, Captain America WIS, spider-man 2), not as bad as my most disliked films (amazing spider-man 2, thor 2, the 2008 hulk) but honestly, I don't know if I'd call it good or bad.

Sounds watchable at the very least I suppose.

Also how was the score?

 

[DonasaurusRex]

Saw that coming, same really. I'm starting to wish we could have seen Trank's full vision for the film since at least that sounded unique and interesting.

so basically Trank bailed mid post production or...what because i thought the film finished shooting without issue.

 

[neorej]

Have you access to a Time Machine or how do you know that they fucked over Thanos? Or do you base this on the 1:30 minutes he spend on screen over like 15 movies?

So far, they've very little to warrant the threat that Thanos poses to the universe, other than a throwaway line by Nova Prime on how big of a threat he is.

- He had an infinity stone in his posession, but decided to give it to a powerhungry half-blood from Asgard to get the Tesseract, who ends up losing both
- Not learning his lesson, he sends a powerhungry Kree after the Powerstone, who ends up losing it. In fact, said Kree defies Thanos and even kills his sidekick. If you wanted to establish Thanos as a goddamn powerhouse who doesn't take shit, there and then was the time and place.

"You will have your war, Asgardian. If you fail, if the Tesseract is kept from us, there will be no realm, no barren moon, no crevice where he can't find you. You think you know pain? He will make you long for something as sweet as death."

Meanwhile, Loki gets to sit on the throne of Asgard and Thanos sits idly on his floating rock throne.

"The only matter I do not take seriously, boy, is you. Your politics bore me! Your demeanor is that of a pouty child. And apparently you alienated my favorite daughter, Gamora. I shall honor our agreement, Kree, if you bring me the orb. But return to me again empty handed and I will bathe the star-ways with your blood."

And yet, as Ronan stands before him and basically tells Thanos to sod off, Thanos does nothing.

 

[Toa TAK]

I liked Ultron. I just wanted more of him.

 

[IHaveIce]

Worse than the marvel villains people often complain about.

What how is this even possible.

 

[tomtom94]

so basically Trank bailed mid post production or...what because i thought the film finished shooting without issue.

Whole load of reshoots where the producers were hands on and I assume they had control of the editing suite as well.

 

[GAMEPROFF]

So far, they've very little to warrant the threat that Thanos poses to the universe, other than a throwaway line by Nova Prime on how big of a threat he is.

- He had an infinity stone in his posession, but decided to give it to a powerhungry half-blood from Asgard to get the Tesseract, who ends up losing both
- Not learning his lesson, he sends a powerhungry Kree after the Powerstone, who ends up losing it. In fact, said Kree defies Thanos and even kills his sidekick. If you wanted to establish Thanos as a goddamn powerhouse who doesn't take shit, there and then was the time and place.




Meanwhile, Loki gets to sit on the throne of Asgard and Thanos sits idly on his floating rock throne.

Maybe we just have to wait to see the next Thor movie to see what happened to Loki?

But ok, when you already think he is wasted after 1:30 Minutes screentime, its your thing, I think its utterly stupid to think so.

 

[neorej]

Maybe we just have to wait to see the next Thor movie to see what happened to Loki?

I've also edited my reply to include Ronan's faith and Thanos' threat to Ronan:

"The only matter I do not take seriously, boy, is you. Your politics bore me! Your demeanor is that of a pouty child. And apparently you alienated my favorite daughter, Gamora. I shall honor our agreement, Kree, if you bring me the orb. But return to me again empty handed and I will bathe the star-ways with your blood."

Somehow, Ronan was able to stand before Thanos, tell him that he's keeping the orb and the stars remain unbathed...

But ok, when you already think he is wasted after 1:30 Minutes screentime, its you thing, I think its utterly stupid to think so.

I'm not saying he's wasted, but so far, his screenpresence was a miss. Having Thanos appear in those short bits, should convey the message to the non-comic people that this is the real shit. He's not just the mad titan in name, but in action as well. Cross him and there's hell to pay. And yet, he's come up empty on not one, but two threats.

 

[Broken Joystick]

They messed up Doom again?

 

[DonasaurusRex]

But they missed with:
Thanos
Malekith
Whiplash
Red Skull
Iron Monger
Ultron
Ronan

In varying degrees, granted, but none of the movies nailed the villain, which makes you suspect that Kingpin and Loki were more lucky hits rather than meticulously crafted villains. Of course, Kingpin had a lot more time to build, over 13 episodes, one or two even dedicated to him as a character, IIRC.

Yeah the definitely knew better than the comics with Malekith and messed that up, however good thing he's inbetween life and death and can come back.

Thanos hasn't been in a movie yet lol wtf

Whiplash was never a solo villain he works with other villains , even though he was meh it was pretty clear the villainous plot came from Hammer and Venko working with and double crossing each other. Venko is whatever but Hammer was perfect.

Red Skull will never show up in a international action film, only his glossed over sanitized "oh im not in my right mind and evil self" just his wow this guy is crazy and so crazy he'll even attack berlin....riiiight.

Iron Monger was on screen for...thats not the villain Stane was great...perfect the 3rd act just kinda ended the film i'll give you that but what the hell

Ultron while he was actually that batshit in the comics i knew Whedon couldn't resist his bad philosophy. I don't mind him being corrupted AI with angst but the cold as ice Ultron that just said fuck it time to replace everything with my vision is the most popular incarnation of the character. I definitely agree. Editing out a ton of stuff probably didnt help either.

Ronan - theres an entire core of Accusers who cares, I will agree that the archaic type villain was a disservice to the core of what Ronan is, a villain for what he perceives as the right reasons. He's all in for the kree empire and will do whatever it takes to ADVANCE his people. In the film him being fixed on Xandar ...meh kinda beneath the Kree and therefore him since the 800+ world Kree Empire could liquidate Xandar in an afternoon. But thankfully they aren't stuck with one "Accuser" and the Kree are big on clones so could even have Lee Pace back. The big problem is Ronan is the Kree's biggest cheerleader, and while he antagonizes the guardians well, you lose out on the Kree and just get an evil guy in return.

 

[DonasaurusRex]

I've also edited my reply to include Ronan's faith and Thanos' threat to Ronan:



Somehow, Ronan was able to stand before Thanos, tell him that he's keeping the orb and the stars remain unbathed...



I'm not saying he's wasted, but so far, his screenpresence was a miss. Having Thanos appear in those short bits, should convey the message to the non-comic people that this is the real shit. He's not just the mad titan in name, but in action as well. Cross him and there's hell to pay. And yet, he's come up empty on not one, but two threats.

Why would someone from the Kree Empire fear Thanos ? I think we the moviegoers are like yeah no one would mess with him because we know about hte infinity guantlet , thanos quest etc etc. The Shi'ar , Kree, Skrulls, etc dont wake up every day worrying about Thanos son of Mentor before the infinity guantlet/ cosmic cube. Even then most of that is basically one of those "above most lower beings settings". Thanos doesn't care if you fear him or not, he's not a get scared here I come type of villain. He just has to be the indestructible , death obsessed, prodigy of the eternals , indestructible and death wont have him. He's your worst nightmare because at best you will be able to stop his plans like Doom, cause you aren't stopping him. Even Odin said stopping him would mean destroying asgard in the process.

If anything was bad it was that Thanos even spoke back to Ronan who he knows he can kill any time he pleases but a deals a deal. I wouldn't read too much into someone "daring" to talk back to Thanos plenty have done it before learning the truth. "I've made a huge mistake"