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New gaming monitors at CES2017 (VA, IPS, TN, 240 Hz, etc.)

ToD_

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Added this to OP:


Holy crap!

I expect an obscene price, but if it reviews well I'm game for anything less than 1500€.

I also sincerely hope it reviews well. This looks very interesting. Will buy if this one turns out to be a good display for a reasonable price.
 

Durante

Member
Displayport 1.4 is designed to handle 8K/60Hz with HDR, so logically it should be able to do anywhere up to 4K/240Hz with HDR over a single cable.
Maybe I'm missing something, but without accounting for any protocol overhead (or audio for that matter) 3840*2160*30*144 bit per second is 35.831808 Gigabit/s. Displayport 1.4 is 32.4 Gigabit/s.

This is going to cost $1300 USD isn't it.
Don't be shocked, but I think that would be rather cheap.

This is a monitor that features multiple things never before seen in a monitor.
 

Kaako

Felium Defensor
Mmm that Asus monitor, mighty sexy if I say so myself. Still no OLED monitor announcements? I thought for sure we'd get 2 of them this year. Still have hope.
 

riflen

Member
Displayport 1.4 is designed to handle 8K/60Hz with HDR, so logically it should be able to do anywhere up to 4K/240Hz with HDR over a single cable.

I think it may need two inputs. One cable is good enough for 3840x2160 @ 120 Hz 10-bit colour HDR. It's going to depend if the display supports the visually lossless compression feature. It could be they decided not to for some reason and so went with two inputs instead without DSC.
 

Rizific

Member
ASUS announces Swift PG27UQ 4K IPS 144Hz G-Sync monitor

http://videocardz.com/65369/asus-announces-swift-pg27uq-4k-ips-144hz-g-sync-monitor

First high refresh 4K!

that stand...just...WHY? the rest looks fine and then they throw on that tripod with g4m3rz flair. so god damned ugly.

Dell-S2417DG.jpg

look. 27" 1440p 144hz gsync. thats the aesthetic i want (and have) on my desk. simple and clean. 1440p is good enough for me now. my 1070 has trouble running new games at 100+fps, but its close enough that im satisfied. that said, ill upgrade to 4k when 100+fps is achievable with a midrange ~$400 gpu.
 

zoku88

Member
Maybe I'm missing something, but without accounting for any protocol overhead (or audio for that matter) 3840*2160*30*144 bit per second is 35.831808 Gigabit/s. Displayport 1.4 is 32.4 Gigabit/s.

Don't be shocked, but I think that would be rather cheap.

This is a monitor that features multiple things never before seen in a monitor.
Might be using compression

http://www.displayport.org/faq/#Display Stream Compression (DSC) FAQs
Mmm that Asus monitor, mighty sexy if I say so myself. Still no OLED monitor announcements? I thought for sure we'd get 2 of them this year. Still have hope.
Didn't dell announce something last year that never came out? Maybe they will announce it again.
 

Thraktor

Member
Maybe I'm missing something, but without accounting for any protocol overhead (or audio for that matter) 3840*2160*30*144 bit per second is 35.831808 Gigabit/s. Displayport 1.4 is 32.4 Gigabit/s.

I'm assuming they're using DSC (display stream compression), which is the main difference between DP1.3 and DP1.4. Although it would be interesting to see what (if any) impact this would have on both image quality and latency.
 

Durante

Member
Oh, I forgot about the compression. Well, we'll see. Maybe it's irrational but in a way I'd enjoy that two cable solution :p

I also sincerely hope it reviews well.
I'm somewhat confident about that, since ASUS also did basically the first good IPS G-sync monitor. (Had excellent pixel switching times and overdrive at all refresh rates too)
 
So the backlight has to be at full for HDR content to be displayed properly right? At normal monitor viewing distances this it seems like it could get fatiguing really quickly. FALD on an IPS panel is something I haven't seen yet, I know there is a Vizio out there that does it. The curved VA looks good, hopefully we see some 2K non curved VA displays w/ G-Sync.

FWIW though I do think that Asus looks wonderful, the FALD even w/o HDR is a nice bonus.
 
I thought the price for gsync monitors would've come down by now, but it seems like it has actually gone up. They must be selling quite well.
 

Kaako

Felium Defensor
Might be using compression

http://www.displayport.org/faq/#Display Stream Compression (DSC) FAQs
Didn't dell announce something last year that never came out? Maybe they will announce it again.
Dell did announce an OLED 30" for an insane amount of money last year, I remember lol.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3018...sharp-display-and-declares-war-on-bezels.html

Only $5K, dirt cheap peasant stuff.

Edit: I was told late last year that LG will be unveiling 1 or 2 OLED monitors this year as well. But still wait and see on this.
 
Of course it's going to review well. Equally likely are fairly consistent quality complaints for 6 mo+ after launch.

That said I appreciate those of you brave enough to live on the bleeding edge of monitor technology.
 
The most promising so far that I've found is the HP Omen X35.
3440 × 1440 on 35"
G-Sync up to 100 Hz
2500:1 contrast (AMVA panel)
100% sRGB
1199€


I'm not a huge fan of the curvature, but it ticks all the other boxes I want. Now to wait for reviews and pixel switching time measurements. It also doesn't look too much like g4m0rZ equipment.

Been drooling over this since it was announced yesterday, but man I just can't stomach the price just yet. It's not even about affording it, I just have a mental barrier that prevents me from spending over $1000 on a single computer component.

Once something like this hits $1000 or less, I am ALL IN.
 

Zaph

Member
that stand...just...WHY? the rest looks fine and then they throw on that tripod with g4m3rz flair. so god damned ugly.

I hate it too, but Asus do a good job of keeping the monitor itself (bezel etc) clean. I unplug the stand and use a VESA table mount, ends up looking like a normal desktop monitor.
 

Kayhan

Member
ASUS PG27UQ

3840 x 2160 on 27"
144 Hz G-sync
HDR with 1,000cd/m² maximum brightness and 384 zone local dimming backlight
Quantum dot IPS panel with DCI-P3 color space

This may be the one for me.

This may be the one that makes me return to posting screenshots on GAF.
 

jrcbandit

Member
Asus monitor would be perfect if it wasn't 27 inches, I really dislike that display size for 4k. Requires too high of dpi scaling, which makes the monitor seem very small in desktop mode (and apps or games that don't support proper dpi scaling would be a nightmare to use with tiny ui). 40 inches is perfect for 4k without having to use much dpi scaling (what I currently use), but I'd expect 4k pc monitors to be more in the 32-35 inch range. Not getting a 27 inch one, that's for sure.
 

Kayhan

Member
Asus monitor would be perfect if it wasn't 27 inches, I really dislike that display size for 4k. Requires too high of dpi scaling, which makes the monitor seem very small in desktop mode. 40 inches is perfect for 4k without having to use much dpi scaling (what I currently use), but I'd expect 4k pc monitors to be more in the 32-35 inch range. Not getting a 27 inch one, that's for sure.

I agree that 30-32" is better than 27" for 4K.

40" for desktop is probably too big for my liking though.
 

Kaako

Felium Defensor
Asus monitor would be perfect if it wasn't 27 inches, I really dislike that display size for 4k. Requires too high of dpi scaling, which makes the monitor seem very small in desktop mode. 40 inches is perfect for 4k without having to use much dpi scaling (what I currently use), but I'd expect 4k pc monitors to be more in the 32-35 inch range. Not getting a 27 inch one, that's for sure.
I'd easily jump on that Asus monitor if it was in the 35" range.
I too find 27" quite small for 4K from personal experience.
 

Se_7_eN

Member
Going from a 27' Asus 1080p 60hz to the HP Omen X35 will be HUGE, especially the jump from my GTX 680 to the 1080.

Looking like great upgrades for me.
 
Also HDR/DCI-P3.

Edit: wait!
384 zone backlight, 1000cd/m²!!

This is an actual HDR monitor! With 144 Hz! And 4k!

It looks like Nvidia has new g-sync module then since previous one maxed aroound 3440x1440@100 Hz

And wow I so want this :D If they made it 32" and Oled my kidney would be in danger.
 

SapientWolf

Trucker Sexologist
Has anyone here actually seen a 200hz monitor in person? I can't see how that high of a refresh rate could be humanly perceptible. 100hz is the sweet spot for me.
I'm wondering if you get better motion quality with less blurring at that refresh rate without black frame insertion. I'm starting to think BFI is more important than Gsync for fast paced gaming.
 

Durante

Member
It looks like Nvidia has new g-sync module then since previous one maxed aroound 3440x1440@100 Hz

And wow I so want this :D If they made it 32" and Oled my kidney would be in danger.
It seems they are branding it "G-Sync HDR". And yeah, it's clearly a new module.

That Asus looks aesthetically like trash... Why can't they just make quality things look good.
It will almost certainly be VESA compatible. At the price its likely to retail at, replacing the stand is the least of your worries :p
 

Stevey

Member
I maybe missing something here, but whats the point of a curved monitor? I thought it was for better viewing angles, but 99% of people sit directly in front of their monitor.
 
I still can't get over how ugly and embarrassing those monitors look. It's like they have learned absolutely nothing from what has made Apple products such a hit with consumers this past decade. Pure abominations.
 
It will almost certainly be VESA compatible. At the price its likely to retail at, replacing the stand is the least of your worries :p

It's more than the stand. The back of it has crappy faux-circuitry etched into it.


Edit: Unless these are just mock-ups and not representative of the final product (please be the case).
Edit2: Also that 'Republic of Gamers' logo has GOT to go in general. Better yet drop that lame branding all together. It sounds so stupid.
 

Vipu

Banned
I maybe missing something here, but whats the point of a curved monitor? I thought it was for better viewing angles, but 99% of people sit directly in front of their monitor.

You dont see directly the whole screen.
Just like people who say "TN is fine I sit on front of my screen, not on the side".
If you look at top of of your screen are those pixels on same angle than when you look at bottom of your screen?
 
It will almost certainly be VESA compatible. At the price its likely to retail at, replacing the stand is the least of your worries :p

I've checked 34" widescreen g-sync Asus which looks similarly and it's 100mm Vesa compatible so we should be fine.
 
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Deleted member 245925

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You dont see directly the whole screen.
Just like people who say "TN is fine I sit on front of my screen, not on the side".
If you look at top of of your screen are those pixels on same angle than when you look at bottom of your screen?

Are all these curved monitors actually curved both vertically and horizontally or only horizontally? Reading your post made me realize that I've never actually paid attention to that aspect. Looking at some images it seems like they are only curved horizontally. I guess vertical curvature with the same radius wouldn't be very noticable anyway. Horizontal-only also makes manufacturing less complex I suppose.
 

EvB

Member
Ooh that Asus is nice. True HDR with local dimming is what is all about.

Local dimming or go home.
 
I am looking forward to a new price/performance 1440p/144hz/IPS monitor. Pretty sure that I am going to get a new monitor this year and it would be nice to get something new as opposed to some older 2015-2016 Asus/AOC ones. Let me know if that kind of monitor emerges in the expo.
 

Rodin

Member
Added this to OP:


Holy crap!

I expect an obscene price, but if it reviews well I'm game for anything less than 1500€.

Holy shit, this is what i've been waiting for. It will be too expensive for me, but at least the sooner they start coming out the sooner they'll start dropping in price.
 

bee

Member
that asus is an insta buy as soon as it comes out, was not expecting anything close to that to be at ces, the only bad part is the stand but i don't care about that as i'll be using a monitor arm
 
I thought I'd make a new thread for this, since I'm still on the lookout for a monitor that does everything I want, and there are always quite a few of them announced at CES.

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NEW NEWS!

ASUS PG27UQ

3840 x 2160 on 27"
144 Hz G-sync
HDR with 1,000cd/m² maximum brightness and 384 zone local dimming backlight
Quantum dot IPS panel with DCI-P3 color space


Holy crap!

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Old crap:

The most promising so far that I've found is the HP Omen X35.

3440 × 1440 on 35"
G-Sync up to 100 Hz
2500:1 contrast (AMVA panel)
100% sRGB
1199€


I'm not a huge fan of the curvature, but it ticks all the other boxes I want. Now to wait for reviews and pixel switching time measurements. It also doesn't look too much like g4m0rZ equipment.

One of these two will be my upgrade once my 1440p 144Hz GSync panel has served its time. Which will not be for several years.

So maybe by then there will be other options too.

What I'm really trying to say is both of these are sexy as fuck.
 

ToD_

Member
It's more than the stand. The back of it has crappy faux-circuitry etched into it.



Edit: Unless these are just mock-ups and not representative of the final product (please be the case).
Edit2: Also that 'Republic of Gamers' logo has GOT to go in general. Better yet drop that lame branding all together. It sounds so stupid.

That stand looks the same as the one for the Asus ROG Swift PG348Q, which, according to the Asus product page, has a standard 100x100mm vesa mount.

Edit:
Here's an image of what that looks like without the stand:
vesa.jpg
 
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