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new heavenly sword pics
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Save it. I'm not interested in getting into a pixel hunt argument stemming from what you think you can see in 1/8th scale screenshots for an HD game. Unless the developers are going to pass every single environment in the final game by you and Zen for final approval of composition, I don't see what this DEMAND THE DEVELOPERS CHANGE IT BACK tirade is really going to achieve based off one environment.mckmas8808 said:
All I can see from these shots is that they've modeled a giant waterfall basin with what looks like a dozen or more giant waterfalls pouring millions of liters of water into it. IRL, that'd produce a hell of a lot of mist, much more than was on display in the original presentation of this area during Heroes. There's no reason to jump on their backs for playing with the effect, as if any other aspect of this game has been clearly set in stone once we saw a screenshot of it...
momolicious
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wow the first shot does look way better than the second one, i guess its to improve the framerate?
hukasmokincaterpillar
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JCBossman said:
Like a bloody metronome.
mckmas8808
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momolicious said:
See? See? This is the problem Kaching. The game wouldn't look as good if it looks like the new pics. It would still look good, but not what it could have look like.
Well, I mean, they're not the same area, so you can't say definitively that it's a downgrade or whatever. But I'll admit, the first does seem like it's prettier from a "technical" standpoint.mckmas8808 said:Me personally am the furthest from a hater on Heavenly Sword. I'm bitching because I hope the devs hear our voice (Me and Zen) and tell those dumb artist to tweak the lighting back to what it used to be.
Come on man from this
to this
I don't want this to happen to one of my favorite/most wanted games in 2007.
But they're both so small, it's hard to tell.
mckmas8808
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kaching said:
Green fog Kaching? GREEN?!?! Come on man it was perfect at first.
looks like two different generations .........mckmas8808 said:Me personally am the furthest from a hater on Heavenly Sword. I'm bitching because I hope the devs hear our voice (Me and Zen) and tell those dumb artist to tweak the lighting back to what it used to be.
Come on man from this
to this
I don't want this to happen to one of my favorite/most wanted games in 2007.
mckmas8808
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Ploid 3.0 said:
Then the quailty of the lighting in this cycle doesn't look that good. Not as good as I would hope. Not yet any way.
They will probably fix it though.
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JB1981 said:
And the thing is that Heroes video/demo was from last October. The developer said it himself.
hukasmokincaterpillar
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kaching said:
When I went to Niagra Falls I was all like ZOMGTUROK64AMIRITE!
mckmas8808
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kaching said:
That and the lack of that beautiful lighting and DOF Heavenly Sword is known for. I want it back!!!
buckfutter
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Where art thou, Nostromo?
MY PARENTS WENT TO NIAGRA FALLS AND ALL I GOT WERE THESE LOUSY LOD DEFECTS.hukasmokincaterpillar said:
See, I'm very much not a fan of DOF so the earlier look wasn't "perfect" to me. So which of us gets to bend the developer's ear to the other's detriment?mckmas8808 said:
DOF aside, the level "looks" severely downgraded. I mean that's pretty much a fact. No matter if it's technical or artists gone insane it looks shit compared to the old version in terms of textures, draw distance, environment complexity.
If they wanted to do fog, then there's a million better ways to do it then PS1 era colored shading to hide pop in, it might look like actual fog, but it doesn't, it looks flat out bad
Even if this is a different time of day, then either it's not good at this point or it really is some technical issue.
But then we have DeanoC saying this:
and
It's not just soley that it appears downgraded or that 'THE PRETTY LIGHTING IS GONE' it's that the game flat out looks worse now then it did in those videos. If it really just is some people with some bad ideas about tweaking the effects of the game, then damn straight we have every right to complain if we don't like it.
What, would you rather the beautiful and expansive environments were covered up by flat PS1 era fog? Or that we couldn't see beautiful and dynamic lighting at work? If you don't like DOF, say so, it's your right to talk about what you like and don't like, and I mean don't you think if you were developing a huge game you'd like external feedback? Or now we're suppose to not say what we think of a change because 'the game isn't done yet'.
I'm really looking forward to this game. It's my second most wanted PS3 game behind Metal Gear Solid 4, and to me Metal gear Solid is the best series in the industry. So with that in mind you might understand why I'm vocal about not liking this new look.
I'm pretty much refusing to believe what we're seeing is more up to date then what we saw on Heroes. There's just no way. We'll see though.
If they wanted to do fog, then there's a million better ways to do it then PS1 era colored shading to hide pop in, it might look like actual fog, but it doesn't, it looks flat out bad
Even if this is a different time of day, then either it's not good at this point or it really is some technical issue.But then we have DeanoC saying this:
and
It's not just soley that it appears downgraded or that 'THE PRETTY LIGHTING IS GONE' it's that the game flat out looks worse now then it did in those videos. If it really just is some people with some bad ideas about tweaking the effects of the game, then damn straight we have every right to complain if we don't like it.
What, would you rather the beautiful and expansive environments were covered up by flat PS1 era fog? Or that we couldn't see beautiful and dynamic lighting at work? If you don't like DOF, say so, it's your right to talk about what you like and don't like, and I mean don't you think if you were developing a huge game you'd like external feedback? Or now we're suppose to not say what we think of a change because 'the game isn't done yet'.
I'm really looking forward to this game. It's my second most wanted PS3 game behind Metal Gear Solid 4, and to me Metal gear Solid is the best series in the industry. So with that in mind you might understand why I'm vocal about not liking this new look.
I'm pretty much refusing to believe what we're seeing is more up to date then what we saw on Heroes. There's just no way. We'll see though.
nelsonroyale
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haha, I think the new shot looks better...the old shot is blurovision and the green fog looks artistic...calm down. Also the other shots look vastly improved to me. I was rather dissapointed actually with the bluriness of the that stuff.
this shot shows little fog:
peace
this shot shows little fog:
peace
Flesh Into Gear
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Are we going to go thru this with every new game?
MickeyKnox
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Well when you have a media blackout for a game people have been looking forward to for a long time, whatever slips through the cracks is bound to be over analyzed.Lain said:
frAntic_Frog
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well its partly sony's fault....they brought it upon themselves by not releasing any juicy current media on the game! cmon Phil! start the sony PS3 hype train rollin already! u need somethin to counter the Halo3 buzz, why not start with Heavenly sword???????MickeyKnox said:
stupid sony marketing.....
MickeyKnox said:
People over analyze everything and anything on this board, media blackout or not, which, in the end, makes me glad about the media blackouts.
Otherwise the bitching about anything would be repeated 100x times as worse as it is now, and on NeoGAF it is bad enough =)
Thunderbear
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Talk about over reacting based on one screenshot. I agree the screenshot is not as good as the one you used as an example, but really, I don't think that means absolutely anything.
So weird to get your panties in a twist over one screenshot. Let's wait and see what the next footage looks like. The Heroes footage looked good to me but I thought it was weird that the rope was so low-poly.
I am very antsy for some more footage and news about this title that was once supposed to be a launch window title. If it needs more development time, I am glad they are putting it in rather than putting out a sub-par title.
So weird to get your panties in a twist over one screenshot. Let's wait and see what the next footage looks like. The Heroes footage looked good to me but I thought it was weird that the rope was so low-poly.
I am very antsy for some more footage and news about this title that was once supposed to be a launch window title. If it needs more development time, I am glad they are putting it in rather than putting out a sub-par title.
SapientWolf
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Why doesn't she look Japanese anymore?
Nothing (code or data wise) has been downgraded.
Lighting is something vibrant and dynamic that can change according what you have on screen and in which direction are you looking at (it's not like the sky lights the scene in the same way from every direction, and also camera exposure is automatically adjusted per frame).
Fog also is not just 'fog', it's applied on every single pixel we render and it's computed in a very complex fashion (mie and rayleigh scattering equations), it's not really something you wanna use to 'cover' stuff as it's more expensive to compute that the stuff you want to cover, lol :lol
So please relax, nothing has been taken away
Lighting is something vibrant and dynamic that can change according what you have on screen and in which direction are you looking at (it's not like the sky lights the scene in the same way from every direction, and also camera exposure is automatically adjusted per frame).
Fog also is not just 'fog', it's applied on every single pixel we render and it's computed in a very complex fashion (mie and rayleigh scattering equations), it's not really something you wanna use to 'cover' stuff as it's more expensive to compute that the stuff you want to cover, lol :lol
So please relax, nothing has been taken away
Yoboman
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GIVE ME LARGER SCREENSNostromo said:Nothing (code or data wise) has been downgraded.
Lighting is something vibrant and dynamic that can change according what you have on screen and in which direction are you looking at (it's not like the sky lights the scene in the same way from every direction, and also camera exposure is automatically adjusted per frame).
Fog also is not just 'fog', it's applied on every single pixel we render and it's computed in a very complex fashion (mie and rayleigh scattering equations), it's not really something you wanna use to 'cover' stuff as it's more expensive to compute that the stuff you want to cover, lol :lol
So please relax, nothing has been taken away
is the time of day the same for the heroes footage and these other screenshots? gamepro screenshots look later in the day and you don't get the light shining off the rope =/
so the part in heroes is virtually unchanged?
not trying to sound negative. likely a day 1 purchase for me.
so the part in heroes is virtually unchanged?
not trying to sound negative. likely a day 1 purchase for me.
nelsonroyale
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Yoboman said:
Yes!
Nostromo said:Nothing (code or data wise) has been downgraded.
Lighting is something vibrant and dynamic that can change according what you have on screen and in which direction are you looking at (it's not like the sky lights the scene in the same way from every direction, and also camera exposure is automatically adjusted per frame).
Fog also is not just 'fog', it's applied on every single pixel we render and it's computed in a very complex fashion (mie and rayleigh scattering equations), it's not really something you wanna use to 'cover' stuff as it's more expensive to compute that the stuff you want to cover, lol :lol
So please relax, nothing has been taken away
WHY IT IS GREEN AND UGLY >:|
Thunderbear
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Nostromo said:Nothing (code or data wise) has been downgraded.
Lighting is something vibrant and dynamic that can change according what you have on screen and in which direction are you looking at (it's not like the sky lights the scene in the same way from every direction, and also camera exposure is automatically adjusted per frame).
Fog also is not just 'fog', it's applied on every single pixel we render and it's computed in a very complex fashion (mie and rayleigh scattering equations), it's not really something you wanna use to 'cover' stuff as it's more expensive to compute that the stuff you want to cover, lol :lol
So please relax, nothing has been taken away
Rayleigh? Are you raymarching your fog?! In that case, will you have shadow definition in there?
This is the stuff that I always imagined the cell would be amazing at with its architecture.
nelsonroyale
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Zen said:
Nostromo said:
Plures habitum positus ut illa newest statua es macero pro causa ut es civitas. Potissimus fortuna.
To say, at this point, that it looks like anything other then bad out of place fog would be a lie. Can't wait to see the finished version, you have a very talented team and I look forward to experience the result of your blood sweat and tears but I 'humbly' disagree with the PS1 style fog (maybe if it was a color that matched the environment) and the effect it's having on the beautiful environment.
