jeffyjaixx
Member
Interesting. Needs more testing for the heat dissipation and cooling but lighter by a pound and also uses up to 20-30W less during gaming.
New PS5 model lighter, uses less W, and possibly more efficient in cooling
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TheGecko
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I can't stand the shit head.
crackajack
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Cooling solutions can perform very different, even if smaller, I guess, but 20-30W less consumption without a die shrink. How? Did they manage to lower the voltage and since it was running rather high for consoles, the impact is sort of huge?
TSMC N6 could be a possibility. It's fully design-compatible with N7 chip designs so you can just throw your old SoC design on there and get some of the benefits.
onnextflix5
Member
If it's using 20 wats less, good chance they fixed the coil whine, but if are they are still using cheap parts, maybe not, these YouTubers are so dumb, there is no point asking them.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
There is nothing to fix.
My 3080 got way worse coil whine. It's normal electrical noise which is hardly audible. Ps5 is really quiet
Ziglax
Member
Coil whine is quite random, it can be reduced with quality engineering though.
I've had graphic cards replaced by similar models on several occasions because I can't stand the screeching.
supernova8
Banned
Redesign = lower costs for them.. but strangely higher price for us - wahey cheers Jimmy boy.
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kyliethicc
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Wonder if the SoC is on 6nm now.
Could explain the lower power draw and new board, heatsink.
Could explain the lower power draw and new board, heatsink.
crackajack
Member
There is no official word yet though? 6 was since the beginning the presumed easy path, but it never was announced or even acknowledged as a possibility by Sony or AMD. Surprising they didn't do it much earlier if this is actually this. Especially when Ryzen just now start with N5, so I wonder if the extra cost of 5 rather sooner wouldn't be worth it, when you are supply constraint and also want to avoid shipping huge boxes.
vaibhavpisal
Member
That would dash any hopes of a slim model.
They should work on reducing size as well.
Banjo64
cumsessed
My fear too.
RaZoR No1
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Somebody has to pay the engineers who redisgned the PS5 right?
For a first impression the article/video is alright.
Now we have to wait for GN or someone else to do an in depth review.
prinz_valium
Member
Could also be other components being shrinked.
The NAND, SSD controller, Southbridge.
A lot of controllers on the original PS5
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supernova8
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Usually they redesign it and keep the price the same (ie raise the profit margin) but this time they're raising the price (for all markets except the US because they're afraid of Xbox gaining market share). Plus the engineers are already paid from regular company profits (unless they are on some sort of specific bonus tied to redesign-related margin gains, which I doubt would be the case).
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
I don't understand that article , I need a house on fire analogy to understand better....Some of you will remember it.
Topher
Identifies as young
I don't understand that article , I need a house on fire analogy to understand better....Some of you will remember it.
MrFunSocks
is not around anymore to give us these wonderful analogies. Our loss.
prinz_valium
Member
The power connector is on a different place, too.
There is so much changed. Maybe a more efficient power supply. That would also reduce power draw. But more efficent power supply = increased costs, so I doubt it.
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Rykan
Member
It can be fixed. Xbox series x puts a dampening goo on the components to prevent coil whine and it works great. Series X is the quietest console I've ever owned. By contrast, the coil whine in the PS5 makes it by far the loudest console I've owned.
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Rossco EZ
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wow they've shrunk the heat sink by a massive amount
The power connector is on a different place, too.
There is so much changed. Maybe a more efficient power supply. That would also reduce power draw. But more efficent power supply = increased costs, so I doubt it.
Topher
Identifies as young
Only time I hear my PS5 is when the disc drive engages. It is really quiet overall, as is my XSX. Sucks yours has that issue.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
I mean normally I would expect a more effecient processor to result in the same preformance + reduced heat and power draw.
But not heard anything about a new chip, not a fan of this dudes videos but was this investigated at all?
But not heard anything about a new chip, not a fan of this dudes videos but was this investigated at all?
ShakenG
Member
I had popcorn and didnt even need a microwave.. what a day.I don't understand that article , I need a house on fire analogy to understand better....Some of you will remember it.
Shadowstar39
Member
It is really quiet. My launch day ps4 sounded like a rocket launch in its last 4 years (thing is it was silent from 2013— 2018, so don't know why that is). Ps5 I don't even hear. My 3060ti and steam deck probably make more noise, but with 9 fans blowing air, it's kinda hard to tell what's coming from what.
Physiognomonics
Member
6nm APU could be more expensive and would explain everything: price increase and 10% power reduction (which is significant and can't be explained by more efficient power supply as the old power supply was already pretty decent in that area).
The power connector is on a different place, too.
There is so much changed. Maybe a more efficient power supply. That would also reduce power draw. But more efficent power supply = increased costs, so I doubt it.
Doctor Hades
Member
All this at no extra cost...
... oh wait, no, that's not right. The PS5 now costs £30.00 more here in the UK and is more expensive in many other territories as well bar the U.S.
... oh wait, no, that's not right. The PS5 now costs £30.00 more here in the UK and is more expensive in many other territories as well bar the U.S.
Moses85
Member
Waiting for this guy to make a review:
Oh, snap!! There's already a link to it in the Verge article
Thanks Jimbo
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GHG
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He doesn't have one. Don't waste your time.
saintjules
Member
I think this redesign means that people may not see a slim model for a while...Maybe?
Makoto-Yuki
Banned
still looks like an overweight wifi router though. when are we getting the slimmed down PS5?
it's actually quite hilarious how over the top Sony went with cooling on the launch model. They were probably terrified of reading another "it sounds like a jet engine" comment.
it's actually quite hilarious how over the top Sony went with cooling on the launch model. They were probably terrified of reading another "it sounds like a jet engine" comment.
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MikeM
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Homie never owned a ps4 it seems.
Makoto-Yuki
Banned
at this point why not wait for a PS5 Slim?
I mean is there a must have game that's coming out soon you really need to play? If you've waited this long then you obviously are in no rush to get one. The only upcoming game that people seem to be interested in is God of War. Hold off another year if you can and we'll likely see a slim PS5.
Are you saying the PS4 is quieter than an Xbox Series X? because it is NOT lol.
While I wouldn't say my PS4 was loud it I did hear the fans far more than the fan in the Series X. I literally had to put my ear right beside the vent on the Series X to hear it. That thing is super quiet.
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hemo memo
You can't die before your death
Yeah me too. It is so quite that I have to check the light to know that it is running unlike the jet engine that was the PS4.
Rykan
Member
I've owned several.
crackajack
Member
judging by those photos going from 1100 to 1200 seems like a plausible still noticeable improvement. But starting from that humungous piece of the 1000 version, it is surprising, that we don't have exploding PS5s now everywhere.
They went from two ducttaped Scythe Katanas plus two proper tower coolers to one Katana and two slim towers. Much smaller, but probably still very expensive as complex it still is. The XBox counterpart, while needing probably the same amount of material, looks much simpler and must be much easier to produce.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
A lighter console and they figured out 1440p resolution?
PlayStation is on fire baby!
PlayStation is on fire baby!
yurinka
Member
This is not the reason of why they didn't rise the price in USA: one of the main reason is the rise of the dollar and inflation in a good part 'thanks' to the war in Ukraine and Europe deciding to stop buying gas and oil to Rusia and to buy it to USA instead. A particularly strong dollar hurts the currency exchange for the other countries, not to USA.
They have like about twice the market share in active consoles and game subs than MS, aren't worried about them.
The other main reason that affects the whole world is the sudden rise of shipments (due to rise of fuel cost) and rise of components independently than if they -as always do every generation- periodically they review the internal design recuding costs.
All these things combined caused a costs rise way higher than the 10% they rised in the pricing. The thing is that the disc console was already being sold at a loss and the discless SKU was barely sold at a profit, so now both must be sellling at an important loss and this price is to reduce that loss.
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