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New Red Hot Chili Peppers song Black Summer is out! Does John Frusciante save the band?!
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Men_in_Boxes
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Pretty much my reaction. I hope they’ve got some bangers on this album, so far pretty meh
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Werewolf Jones
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That shit sounds like a parody of them.
I've been listening to Mother's Milk a lot in work and I can't believe this band went from that to this shit.
And if this is the best song on Stadium Arcadium then the entire album is actual garbage.
DeepBreath87
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They been a band for almost 40 years and made a lot of great music. I don’t like all of it either, but I think we would be hard pressed for find more than a couple of bands still trying to make original music after this much time whose shit wasn’t what it used to be.
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Patrick S.
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Don't they have a bass player? Steve Tereberry often makes jokes about bass players, too. Are bassists kinda like the unwanted stepchilds or something?
Men_in_Boxes
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I fall into this camp. They kind of sound like they're Greta Van Fleeting their own late era music. Rock bands always age horribly, especially ones like the Chili Peppers.
Bruce Springsteen was 52 when he released The Rising, which I think is arguably his best album, but he had that rock wise man persona to fall on. Anthony Keidis (age 59) is perpetually the Suck My Kiss guy, which hits different when yout old.
I'm hoping they have one or two slower songs with some gravitas on the new album. I keep picturing old man Keidis sing these songs next to 25 year old Keidis and it turns into an SNL skits pretty fast.
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DeepBreath87
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I really enjoyed their By the Way album and by that time Kedis was 40 and they had been big for 15 years. I haven’t really been a fan of everything after that, but like you said, that’s kind of the nature of rock music. There is a window for good bands where they capture the right sound and energy, but eventually that window closes.
I remember listening to Billy Corgan talk about it on Joe Rogan. He said when your in that zone, all of your instincts just work. It’s not like you think “I have to write a hit”. He just wrote a song he thought was good and next thing you know you’ve written 1979. But once that time is past, it’s almost impossible to get it back. You do the same process but for some reason all your instincts don’t create the same result. Then you start doubting yourself and chasing old fame and become bitter because everyone wants to hear your old music while you’re convinced they should be liking your new stuff.
The Peppers had a far longer run than most bands. They tried getting the old crew back together for one more run and I was optimistic. If it turns out they just don’t have the magic anymore, they’re still going to end up one of the better bands of the last 30 years, IMO.
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Patrick S.
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What, man?
In that video I see two guys with Stratocasters. I don't see a bass player, but I do hear a bass. So why isn't the bass player in the video?
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Men_in_Boxes
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Same. I thought By The Way was their last good album too.
And the best Busted Pumpkins Era song was...
Aging rock artists need to drop the youthful vibe and explore the "I've gone through some s#!%" vibe. Robert Plant made some pretty good music with Alison Krouse and he followed that line of thinking.
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Their bass player is probably one of the most recognizable and prolific musicians around is allWhat, man?
Flea (musician) - Wikipedia
Patrick S.
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Their bass player is probably one of the most recognizable and prolific musicians around is all
Flea (musician) - Wikipedia
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Dang, I'm really going blind am I...
Yeah you really are. Also kinda suprising you know enough about music to know what a strat is, but not enough to tell it apart from a bass.
Also, yeah, Flea is pretty famous.
Patrick S.
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Haha, RHCP isn't really a band I listen to. Heh, I rewatched the video and the bass is right there at 0:35 and 2:52
I blame tiredness and a few shots of Whiskey for mistaking the bass for a strat, also I was watching on my phone
It is always nice to have a long line of excellent excusesHaha, RHCP isn't really a band I listen to. Heh, I rewatched the video and the bass is right there at 0:35 and 2:52
I blame tiredness and a few shots of Whiskey for mistaking the bass for a strat, also I was watching on my phone
Tams
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It's not bad, but it's boring and flat. Not a single, rather a b-side or album filler.
I know they aren't getting any younger (and it shows), but this doesn't have the commerialised energetic chaos that their old material had. Stadium Arcadium was their last great album.
Yes, I only really know or care about them from Californication.
I know they aren't getting any younger (and it shows), but this doesn't have the commerialised energetic chaos that their old material had. Stadium Arcadium was their last great album.
Yes, I only really know or care about them from Californication.
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I’m 100% on board until that last line…Blood Sugar Sex Magik is some GOAT shit and there’s a lot of other gold in the earlier stuff.
Sir Psycho Sexy > all
Tams
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Not my jam, I'm afraid. I'm a commercial pop whore.
I do recall liking some of their earlier stuff, but not most of it. Too 'raw'. And I can't recall any of the names of those songs. Blood Sugar Sex Magik rings a bell, and I'm pretty sure I didn't like it.
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I was talking the whole album when talking BSSM, I don’t think there’s a track I skip, but I think the title track is a standout itself too
Droxcy
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Poster Child I really enjoy Flea leading the song it's groovy and a typical chili pepper song. Really hope there's some more solid songs Black Summer did grow on me also there's another song being release on the 24th and it's a ballad. I'm just looking forward to the shows honestly
Ionian
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I remember asking my mother "Who is Mr.Bigot?" at the dinner table. (Lyric in song at the segue) to "If You Have To Ask".
She looked confused and said she didn't know. Simpler times.
BSSM is easily one of my all time favourites, it's amazing start to finish. "I could have Lied" I hated but grew to appreciate it, just broke momentum for me. Then again you get "Mellowship Slinky in B Minor" straight after. Now that track is up there with some of the best on it.
Ionian
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I've never seen a good outdoor gig with them, bloody audio engineer blew the speakers during The Pixies and couldn't hear shit in Croke Park, and I've been to a lot. (Venues not suited to the music at all, it's a windy Island and lots of rain). RHCP in an indoor stadium though is top-notch.
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Did you ask her what it meant when he could feel the cop getting wet through her uniform?
My older brother had the album and my mom threw it away when she found out
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Droxcy
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In 2013 I saw them at The Fonda Theatre in LA before Coachella and it was fkn great then saw them both weekends Weekend 2 was way better due to no sandstorm and production was able to be used.. The festival vibes have always been good for me, Also most shows I saw with them were Dave Rat doing the live audio mixing. Anything Getaway era was a hit or miss since had left the band to do handle his own rental business. I went to Josh's last show at at Ohana and mixing was a little off but the guys themselves are always solid.
Ionian
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No but did ask "un-zlipped and slipped, wee that's tight!".
And 'Breaking the Girl', got a 12-Sting for my 21st just to play it like he does in 'Funky Monks'.
'Purple Stain', meh that was amateur hour compared to before.
The video for "Around the World", well ... they knew they were getting away with it for so long but mainstream. I remember the premiered of 'Warped' on MTV. WTF Anthony Kiedis, WTF?
Ionian
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Yeah on a shitty island, it sucks. People wear ponchos expecting the worst of the weather.
Still their SLANE Castle DVD. Now that was legendary. The DVD. I thought fuck that trip at the time, too many crowded people. Plus getting in to and out of the venue, fuck that.
I regret that, QOTSA and Foo Fighters supporting? Some gig I missed! (Learned my lesson on the previous one). Plus the walk home ... no such thing.
IzukuMidoriya
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I can't stand Finnerty. He just stinks of Fantano smugness and the fact the literally used the old "Dani California sounds like Mary Jane's Last Dance" excuse just shows laziness to me.
Droxcy
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Man slane was mind blowing, I rewatch that show probably every month way too legendary. Never been to Ireland but been to UK 2 times for Download Festival yeah the weather on the other side of the pond both times downpour. 2016 I stood on the rail for 12 hours to see Rammstein in the pouring rain took it like a champ though. Crowd vibes over in EU/UK/Ireland are way better than US shows feels boring almost due to the fans not interacting with the band or each other anymore.
MacReady13
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Poster Child is great. Very funky vibes and love the shout outs to many famous artists. The funkier they get the more I love them but it appears people want them to play slower, melodic songs. I love them no matter what they play and cannot wait until 1st April for the release of the album.
synchronicity
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The problem is you build an audience which reinforces a certain persona/vibe/sound (for many artists) via that success, and you find yourself stuck becoming a self-parody. Some can avoid that pitfall, but it seems to be pretty rare.
Ionian
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Toots
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I wont be a nerdy fanboy cunt and tell him he's sacrilegious... Everyone knows one needs a stratocaster or at least a telecaster to play RHCP songs... What's next ? Playing Pantera with a Martin? Be strong Toots, for he knows not what he says.
Exactly my thoughts (except the excitation for the album). The chord progression kinda sounds like californication (the chorus too, except at the end). It's what they know, and they do it well, but it lacks originality.
Anyway, one thing is certain, Kiedis has crazy genes to look like he does at 59 years old, with all the abuse he submit his body to.
Ionian
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Dude plays a Gibson and other guitars all the time live and recording.
Strat as main, what decade you in?
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synchronicity
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The Beatles were just this one-of-a-kind chemical combination of tension and brilliance that were destined to supernova. It's fitting (and ultimately better) that they couldn't last.
Toots
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Lol so you're serious?
What decade RCHPwise ?
I'll admit i stopped listening post 2000s when the quality dropped...
What decade are you in?
Early eighties when it was still cool to play thunderstruck or a zeppelin intro ?
Is your les paul dusty because you tried to play some Frusciante licks on it, it sounded nothing like the original and you gave up out of frustration?
Frusciante is heavily (and it's an euphemism) influenced by Hendrix. He plays strat because it sounds best for his style, which again is tremedously hendrix influenced. He's so influenced by Hendrix that he put the Emaj7 chord in Under the Bridge just because he thought of it as an "hendrix chord". Sure he sometimes use a gibson to play a solo live but he didn't record or compose anything on these tanks.
Ionian
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Correct yourself.
EDIT: A Dutch doc. The best ever. Did only Hendrix play the strat?
Frusciante played otherwise, a Gibson.
Source: every gig I've been to and music video.
Look at his Fnder. Then look at ANY live gig.
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QSD
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Kind of a plodding boring song, agree with most takes here that they'd be better off trying to explore new territory rather than trying to recapture old glories. I do remember during my student days, "californication" was everywhere, I kind of consider it the last great Nevermind-like album that just about everybody seemed to love. It was kind of a new 2.0 version of the peppers since it had these melodic 1960s influences that really fit the california theme. Since then it's been a steady downward spiral into mediocre-ness, a kind of regression towards the mean, which this song is a good example of. It's not bad, just uninspired. Still, they once were the kind of voice-of-a-generation band that few even ever get to be.
MacReady13
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I can't see where some of you are coming from. Boring? Uninspired? I think both songs sound great! 1st is a real Californication sounding vibe with a great solo in the middle. Poster Child is an old school funk/rap song. Unfortunately they're damned if they do, damned if they don't. Go too different then people want their older sounding stuff. Sound like their older selves and they're too old for that shit and need to change up their sound. Can't win even when they try.
Toots
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- One video of exactly 2 instances of solos played on a gibson, the only one on youtube (don't you think i did the search before answering you?). Doesn't contradict at all what i told you ("Sure he sometimes use a gibson to play a solo live") if you just made the effort to read. So correct yourself yourself
- Hendrix played 99% times his strats (differents pickups for different tones). There's one instance i know of a show in Norway (i guess) where he plays another brand, and his acoustic pieces he plays on a 12 string, but he is the seminal stratocaster player who influenced numbers of guitarists such as Stevie Ray Vaughan and John Frusciante. He influenced them with the sound he had 99% of the time playing his strat, not with the few pieces he did with other brands. Do you get that ? Hendrix liquid strat tone with all his hammer - pulloff and slides and chromatic descents is what influenced Frusciante (Under the bridge is the best exemple)
- What are you trying to say ? Explain yourself clearly.
Anyway if i look at any live gig of the RCPH i'll see Frusciante play the majority of the time with his sunburst strat, thus proving you wrong.
I mean you questioning Hendrix as an iconic strat player shows you don't know what you're talking about or you're just acting in bad faith and both are lame.
- Hendrix played 99% times his strats (differents pickups for different tones). There's one instance i know of a show in Norway (i guess) where he plays another brand, and his acoustic pieces he plays on a 12 string, but he is the seminal stratocaster player who influenced numbers of guitarists such as Stevie Ray Vaughan and John Frusciante. He influenced them with the sound he had 99% of the time playing his strat, not with the few pieces he did with other brands. Do you get that ? Hendrix liquid strat tone with all his hammer - pulloff and slides and chromatic descents is what influenced Frusciante (Under the bridge is the best exemple)
- What are you trying to say ? Explain yourself clearly.
Anyway if i look at any live gig of the RCPH i'll see Frusciante play the majority of the time with his sunburst strat, thus proving you wrong.
I mean you questioning Hendrix as an iconic strat player shows you don't know what you're talking about or you're just acting in bad faith and both are lame.
The funky song is a lot better than the californication d-side, i'll admit.
It's strange, might be the fact they've been here for so long but those two songs, each in their way, sound like something i already heard from them long ago.
synchronicity
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I understand that view. I don't necessarily dislike the songs, and yeah artists can feel obligated to play for their audience. In the end, I think all artists - musical or otherwise - should create what they're moved to make. For me, the problem arises when creativity is sacrificed at the altar of conformity - even to some idea of yourself. It feels less genuine to me. I don't know if that makes sense or not.
Alter_Fridge
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Ionian
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Alter_Fridge
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BSSM
OHM
Californication
Are a Holy Trinity of albums. Even By The Way was pretty solid overall.
Stadium Arcadium was pretty bloated and singled their downfall. Although I think Dani California is pretty listenable, despite unpopular opinion
OHM
Californication
Are a Holy Trinity of albums. Even By The Way was pretty solid overall.
Stadium Arcadium was pretty bloated and singled their downfall. Although I think Dani California is pretty listenable, despite unpopular opinion
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Men_in_Boxes
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Is Wet Sand a good song?
I kinda like it.
I kinda like it.
Porcile
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It has a good ending.
Droxcy
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Album leaked today. Wow some strong songs are ahead if you haven't listened yet. Surprising set of songs they released before hand but if you're a previous fan you'll enjoy it.
Right after Poster Child the album gets insanely good like wildly good.
The Great Apes
It's Only Natural (Another fav)
These Are The Ways
Whatcu Thinkin'
Bastards Of Light (Insane favorite)
White Braids & Pillow Chair (Groovy)
Just finished it the whole album is solid. 9/10
Right after Poster Child the album gets insanely good like wildly good.
The Great Apes
It's Only Natural (Another fav)
These Are The Ways
Whatcu Thinkin'
Bastards Of Light (Insane favorite)
White Braids & Pillow Chair (Groovy)
Just finished it the whole album is solid. 9/10
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