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New 'Revenge of the Sith' pics; (pretty big spoilage)

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ManaByte

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Mr Mike said:
It was a little harsh, but I do agree with his point (and *I* made the request). It'd be foolish to derail the thread after 500 posts. Althought I'd LOVE to see that script if you're got a link ManaByte ;) j/k.
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The script can be bought on Del Ray's site for $5. It's a digital download in PDF or MS Reader.
 
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mattx5

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IAmtheFMan said:
Hey guys, parts of the score have leaked (check the regular channels.) It sounds EXCELLENT.
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Regular channels as in IRC? Or channels as in MF.com?

*goes off to look*
 
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evil ways

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4 full songs are already at MF.com, don't know about the rest. Sounds great though. Nice to see they brought back Leia's theme.
 
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IAmtheFMan

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Check like MF.

God the Throne Room, from EP:4 is in the End Credits for this one... it's awesome. Just really awesome.

Some more thoughts:
- The transition from the opening theme to the battle one is absolutely great, and probably the best battle music we've had in the prequels.
- Battle of the Heroes sounds pretty good. I like the middle motif moreso than the main one.
- The Anakin vs. Obi-Wan threw in the fight between Vader and Luke Imperial March theme when Vader is throwing shit at Luke. It fits very well.
- The End Credits are perfect. Throws in Leia's theme, Luke's, the Force theme motif from when Luke burns Vader's suit (with the French Horn) is the theme heard before iris out. Like I said, the Throne Room theme... it's almost like Williams is capping out the entire series with it. It's perfect.
 
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mattx5

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Damnit, I couldn't help myself, I'm listening to the End Credits now.

This is some brilliant stuff, and a triumphant return to form for Williams!
 
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radioheadrule83

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The quality is unbelievable... I wouldn't be against reworked score in the originals

DEFINATELY sitting through the credits at the first showing.
 
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teiresias

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This is some brilliant stuff, and a triumphant return to form for Williams!
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Listened to it, eh, it's Star Wars music, not much else to say, the style is pretty much set by now, nothing to really surprise you there. Incredible themes of course, but it's old material.

Williams' return to form, IMO, was the amazing score to "Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkhaban" where he finally seemed to throw off the "Williams Sound" in a great many cues and give us something that didn't scream, "Hey, it's me John Williams!!"
 
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IAmtheFMan

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teiresias said:
Listened to it, eh, it's Star Wars music, not much else to say, the style is pretty much set by now, nothing to really surprise you there. Incredible themes of course, but it's old material.
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Williams goes off in some very previously unexplored areas for him and Star Wars alike. "Padme's Rumination" does not sound Star Wars ish in the slightest, more akin to Zimmer's style, whereas "Anakin's Dark Deeds" almost sounds like a cue from LOTR mixed with some of Williams' style.
 
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The Bookerman

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I like the battle of the heroes because it sounds really like a tragedy.

The revenge of the sith one... really sounds like something from the original trilogy.
 
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soundwave05

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Sweet! Downloading now, but this just made my day.

I will still be buying the actual soundtrack though. Not only to have it, but because of the DVD.

I thought The Phantom Menace soundtrack was very good, while AOTC was a little weak, but we'll see how this one stacks up. I have a feeling it'll be the best of the PT.
 
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Willco

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Attack of the Clones had a pretty awful soundtrack. I think the reason why I enjoyed The Phantom Menace more than others was that it had an EXCEPTIONAL soundtrack. I hope this one is pretty good too.
 
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soundwave05

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I'm confused over the track listings though.

I'm renaming the tracks to their proper names.

Is Battle of the Heroes track 3 or track 5?
 
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mattx5

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I'm pretty sure this is correct -

01. Star Wars and The Revenge Of The Sith (7:31)
02. Anakin's Dream (4:46)
03. Battle Of The Heroes (3:42)
04. Anakin's Betrayal (4:04)
05. General Grievous (4:07)
06. Palpatine's Teachings (5:25)
07. Grievous and the Droids (3:28)
08. Padme's Ruminations (3:17)
09. Anakin vs. Obi-Wan (3:57)
10. Anakin's Dark Deeds (4:05)
11. Enter Lord Vader (4:14)
12. The Immolation Scene (2:42)
13. Grievous Speaks to Lord Sidious (2:49)
14. The Birth Of The Twins and Padme's Destiny (3:37)
15. A New Hope and End Credits (13:06)
 
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mattx5

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Definitely. Kind of a cruel fate to ban him till after May 19th, but at least he's active over at TFN and MF.
 
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soundwave05

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C'mon mods, let him back. What kind of crap is that?

Anyways, is Duel of the Fates in the soundtrack anywhere? I recall there was a big buzz that DOTF would figure into the Episode III soundtrack, I wonder if that plan fell by the wayside.
 
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soundwave05

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OMG at the last track!

YES! AWESOME! Perfect, they brought back the classic themes.

C'mon George, don't screw this up! I feel the good within you. You can't screw this up. These prequels haven't driven it from you fully. Let go of your bad writing!
 
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Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Bacon said:
Battle of the Heroes is fucking awesome. The begining of it reminds me of the Spider-Man score.
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Yuck. So it reminds you of a mix of Danny Elfman's work on Batman and Men in Black? 'Cause that's all the Spider-Man score was. It annoys me when I hear extremely similar cues in these prequel scores. I could definitely make out some of Elfman's Attack of the Batwing in AOTC's Zam the Assassin. I really enjoy Williams' stuff, but he doesn't seem adverse to slyly taking cues from other people's work. A lot of the original trilogy pieces seem very inspired by Gustav Holst's The Planets, specifically the Mars piece. At least that wasn't from another movie, but when I hear these cues from other scores, it often rips me out of the moment as my mind scrambles to figure out what other movie it recalls.

I'm holding off on listening to the score. Maybe I'll be able to last until the movie, although I ended up buying the scores first for the last two.

Oh hell, who am I kidding. I'll hear all of this before the movie, but I'll listen to the whole album at once as Williams intends.
 
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soundwave05

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Soundtrack is great.

Better than AOTC one, a bit less "John Williamsy" than you'd expect, but it has a lot of clever classic renditions of Star Wars themes (from the PT and OT) to make it Star Wars.

It's more of a somber, dark score as you would expect, however the end is just ... well classic Star Wars. It'll be hard not to smile you when you hear it.
 
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silenttwn

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Dan said:
Yuck. So it reminds you of a mix of Danny Elfman's work on Batman and Men in Black? 'Cause that's all the Spider-Man score was. It annoys me when I hear extremely similar cues in these prequel scores. I could definitely make out some of Elfman's Attack of the Batwing in AOTC's Zam the Assassin. I really enjoy Williams' stuff, but he doesn't seem adverse to slyly taking cues from other people's work. A lot of the original trilogy pieces seem very inspired by Gustav Holst's The Planets, specifically the Mars piece. At least that wasn't from another movie, but when I hear these cues from other scores, it often rips me out of the moment as my mind scrambles to figure out what other movie it recalls.

I'm holding off on listening to the score. Maybe I'll be able to last until the movie, although I ended up buying the scores first for the last two.

Oh hell, who am I kidding. I'll hear all of this before the movie, but I'll listen to the whole album at once as Williams intends.
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I think you're being a bit overly critical here. As an Elfman fan... I can hear the Men In Black style percussion in Spider-man... but Batman? Nope. Sorry, I really don't think that's "all" the Spider-man score was and if you think so, you're a pompous ass. And William's borrowing from the Batwing cue... I don't own the Batman 1 soundtrack so I can't see what you're talking about, but I'm pretty sure it's just coincedental similarities. There's only limited ways movie composers write their music... unless we're talking Georgy Litegi, then he's completely unique and original but we're not... so it was probably just coincedence.
 
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soundwave05

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Listening to it again through my PSP ... I'm more impressed.

Battle of the Heroes is cool, but I think Anakin's Betrayal "steals" the soundtrack. Such emotion, wow.
 
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radioheadrule83

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This is the first time I've gone overboard and spoiled myself before the movie hits the screens, and I actually don't regret it.

I've been reading all of the spoilers (how do these get out btw? clever new marketing campaign?)... I've read the illustrated screenplay. Been looking at the "making of" book.. and now this soundtrack!

I've been putting the pictures from internet sources and the "making of" book to the words I remember in the script. And now I'm putting this awesome music to it as well. What were first simple words and dialogue that do very little to paint a directorial picture, are now becoming vivid pictures that I'm really enjoying. I'm thinking of seeing this in London on opening day instead of in Liverpool.

The last track, although in a sense I've heard it all before, it's fucking fantastic. That has to be the best I've ever heard the Star Wars fanfare sound... and all the classic tunes only help matters.
 
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soundwave05

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General Grievous' theme is cool, a bit more of a "fun" action theme, reminds me a bit of Williams' work on the first Jurassic Park movie.
 
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Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
silenttwn said:
I think you're being a bit overly critical here. As an Elfman fan... I can hear the Men In Black style percussion in Spider-man... but Batman? Nope. Sorry, I really don't think that's "all" the Spider-man score was and if you think so, you're a pompous ass.
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Don't get me wrong, I love Elfman, at least his earlier work. I firmly believe however, that he phoned it in on Spider-Man and just kinda mashed two previous scores together. Hell, I imagine part of the reason he was chosen was because he'd written successful superhero scores and some 'darker' fantasy stuff, so I'd bet he was even asked to do something along those lines. The similarities are really quite blatant. If I hadn't heard those previous scores, the Spider-Man score might work for me, but all it does is recall two far superior films in my mind. Just listen to the Batman theme and the Finale, and then Spider-Man's theme. Very similar overall structure and cues, with a dash of Men In Black.

And William's borrowing from the Batwing cue... I don't own the Batman 1 soundtrack so I can't see what you're talking about, but I'm pretty sure it's just coincedental similarities. There's only limited ways movie composers write their music... unless we're talking Georgy Litegi, then he's completely unique and original but we're not... so it was probably just coincedence.
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Well, let's just say it strikes me as more than coincidental when I noticed similarities to Batman in AOTC and now someone else is bringing up the same issue with ROTS. I'm not sure what you mean by "limited ways" that film scores can be created. The only limitation is that so many producers and directors feel a need for the huge orchestral pieces that well, John Williams made so popular. Williams' best stuff in recent years is when he's been breaking that mold, like with Catch Me If You Can (not original no, but not his typical score) and AI.
 
Simo

Simo

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Good score overall. There are some tracks there that seem like totally new ground for Williams as well as revisting his old work like 'Clash of Lightsabers' for Anakin Vs Obi Wan.

That said, while I like Battle of the Heroes and the other 'big' tracks I was looking forward too, it's the other more 'filler' tracks I'm liking alot more like Anakin's Dream, Anakin's Betrayl, Padme's Ruminations etc. Got my copy preordered anyways. Walmart.com are offering an "Wal*Mart Exclusive" downloadable track too. :D
 
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Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Simo said:
Walmart.com are offering an "Wal*Mart Exclusive" downloadable track too. :D
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It's lame that they don't really say what this is. It could be something really useless or some new piece of music that didn't make the soundtrack for some reason.
 
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Willco

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There's a couple of cool bits here and there, like Clash of the Lightsabers mixed into Anakin vs. Obi-Wan and Battle of the Heroes is good stuff, but colored me underwhelmed. I was hoping for something a bit more epic. I like the transition into A New Hope, though. It's definitely a step up from Attack of the Clones, but with all the hype going into this one I thought it'd be like SHOW STOPPER or something.

EDIT: Also, no full out epic show stoppin' versions of the Imperial March and the Emperor Theme is kind of weird.
 
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soundwave05

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This soundtrack is different for Williams, excluding the "A New Hope" section.

Usually Williams' is know for his distinctive themes, but what I find with the Episode III soundtrack is the "filler" tracks as mentioned above, steal the show.

"Anakin's Dream", "Anakin's Betrayal", and "Padme's Ruminations" are just as good if not better than "Battle of the Heroes", and they're all quite different sounding from the Williams norm. It's almost like half a Hans Zimmer soundtrack and half John Williams.

They're mournful, sad, but still rich and "big" as you'd expect from Williams. You can feel there are moments in the soundtrack which will add "weight" to Anakin's decisions.

I can say John Williams has done his job. Now its up to Lucas to put it up there on screen.
 
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radioheadrule83

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I'm noticing some nods to the other prequel tunes now... at first I was only noticing the more obvious OT references.

In Revenge of the Sith after he Opening Crawl, you can hear motifs that are in the Battle Droid themes in Phantom Menace and when Obi Wan first looks out on the clones from the balcony in AOTC. It doesn't come right out and play the tune, but you can hear where it would.

Palpatine's Teachings has a deep low brassy hint of the Emperor's Theme, and a few motifs from different parts of AOTC too. 2:10-2:20 you can hear a very similar melody to the one that plays when Anakin is speaking to his dying mother. At 3:46 you begin to hear a variation on the tune that plays when Anakin confesses his crimes to Padme. It even does the shifts up key a little.

I'm sure there are many more.
 
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soundwave05

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The very end of "Palpatine's Teachings" has a cue from the Episode I soundtrack (when the Naboo spaceship lifts off or arrives on Coruscant I think).

"Anakin's Dream" definitely has "Across the Stars" running through it, and it also reappears very subtly in "Padme's Ruminations".

The music from Qui-Gon's funeral is used over "Padme's Destiny".

I haven't heard a hint of Duel of the Fates or Anakin's Theme (Episode I) though. I thought it would have been very powerful to have a hint of Anakin's Theme during the "The Immolation Scene" track.
 
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Willco

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There are several themes suspsciously absent from the soundtrack, including the aforementioned Imperial March and Emperor Theme (which are there in very few, subtle forms), so I'm thinking this is not a 100% accurate representation of what we will hear once the film hits the big screen.
 
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