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[Unison]

Saint's Row has better textures, better character models, better lighting, better sky, better physics, better buildings and less aliasing. There is no comparison between the two.

I don't disagree, but at the same time, I completely fail to see how it makes something this impressive:

 

[Razoric]

 

[Blimblim]

I don't disagree, but at the same time, I completely fail to see how it makes something this impressive:

To be fair, there is nothing much to see in this screen.
Razoric: You can't really compare a night shot with next to nothing to see with a day shot showing lots of buildings/details in the background.

 

[Unison]

Like I've said before....the next gen will sort the men from the boys....and I'm getting a kindagarten feeling with those screenies.

Yes, exactly...

Quality of art is going to be more important than ever, I guess, because a checklist of graphical features alone, as these shots so clearly demonstrate, doesn't add up to very much....

 

[Ninja Scooter]

that looks terrible. The modeling is so basic and lifeless, it looks like one of those generic "art/tech school" ads from the back of a 5 year old issue of NextGen magazine (RIP).

 

[sangreal]

I don't disagree, but at the same time, I completely fail to see how it makes something this impressive:

Its just a really [really] bad screenshot. You have to watch the video to see how the game really looks.

Again, it doesn't look amazing or anything, it just looks a lot better than these shots.

 

[dorio]

Never said they were, but I'm fairly certain GTA 4/ GTA: Vegas or whatever they call it will look a heck of a lot better than this.

You can't be basing that on the look of GTA compared to other games released last gen.

 

[u_neek]

The 10 min gameplay video has boobs, ass and blowjob... What more do you guys want?

 

[Doom_Bringer]

this game looks cool to me. Very nice explosions and physics, hope the frame rate is locked.

 

[Yusaku]

This reminds me of mid-90s amateur CG.

 

[Razoric]

Where do you people derive your expectations from?

The Saints Row E3 video was quite impressive for being "30%" beta kits. My expectations were for these screenshots to at least match what I saw at E3. Maybe even slightly better? :\

 

[LegendofJoe]

You can't be basing that on the look of GTA compared to other games released last gen.

Why not? The magnitude of the jump in power from last generation to this one is certainly comparable to the next generation jump in power.

 

[dorio]

This reminds me of mid-90s amateur CG.

It really does.

 

[newsguy]

Damn, GAF has a short term memory. Watch the videos, some of these screens don't do the game justice. The textures on the car rims do look like shit though.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

and why is that cop on the left about to throw his gun?

 

[Blimblim]

The Saints Row E3 video was quite impressive for being "30%" beta kits. My expectations were for these screenshots to at least match what I saw at E3. Maybe even slightly better? :\

These screenshots look about the same as the video for me. A lot of games shown at E3 will look mostly the same when released, only with much better framerate.
The screens released during E3 were either awful, or from the CG trailer.

 

[dorio]

Why not? The magnitude of the jump in power from last generation to this one is certainly comparable to the next generation jump in power.

I'm not talking about generational jumps. I'm talking about a developer who puts out crappy graphics compared to other games the same generation. People love gta but not because its a graphics masterpiece.

 

[Barnimal]

ugh. i get a bunch of red x's cuz i'm at work if the new pics look as good as the gameplay video i'm still excited. i thought it blew away GTA. everything was just much more solid, vibrant and vast.

 

[sangreal]

Does this game even have a storyline? The videos make it look like GTA with just the side missions.

 

[Jeff-DSA]

and why is that cop on the left about to throw his gun?

Gun tossing is just one of the many new and innovative features made possible by next-generation hardware!

 

[Doom_Bringer]

and why is that cop on the left about to throw his gun?

He’s out of ammo!! And he is improving by throwing his gun! Awesome AI get!

 

[COCKLES]

and why is that cop on the left about to throw his gun?

 

[Jeff-DSA]

and why is that cop on the left about to throw his gun?

It's a better stance than the cop on the far right and the scared cop in the middle that runs from Senor Saggy Pants.

 

[The Bookerman]

Looks like 1996 video game cg :rolleyes

 

[Razoric]

:lol

 

[dark10x]

Those wacky cops, looks like they missed spidey again...

 

[Frank the Great]

It's not the graphics that bother me...it's the terrible art. It looks so bland and boring. Meh.

*Plays Killer 7*

 

[Dr_Cogent]

:lol

 

[GeoNeo]

I like the dynamic stencil shadows with self shadowing of every 3d object of these screens. They really need to work on the lighting.

I agree.

I think the biggest jump we are going to see in 2nd "gen" 360 games will be the lighting, when compared to launch games.

 

[Hydro_Alexis]

John Cena

My thoughts exactly ...

 

[Kleegamefan]

It looks OK

Not Great

Not Bad

OK

Like Full Auto

 

[lethial]

Looks like GTA: Any Game running in highres on the PC if you ask me (minus the lameo character).

 

[Shompola]

The E3 videos look damn great. High poly models with great lighting and lots of traffic. Dl the kikizo videos, recommended.

 

[Striek]

I think in clips the physics look awesome.

But the graphics are meh, the roads look hideous.

 

[Borys]

The E3 demo was "shiny" ie. cars reflected sunlight.

Look like they forgot to turn it on on these screenshots.

 

[Porridge]

Awesome. Another hip, urban, 'gangsta' game.

 

[Calidor]

lame

 

[LegendofJoe]

The gamplay vids look like a carbon copy of GTA right down to the animations. While the graphics do look a bit better, they are certainly not impressive.

 

[Amir0x]

Pretty ugly, although that's not at all surprising! THQ/Volition with a launch GTA Clone spells nothing but disaster!

ugh. i get a bunch of red x's cuz i'm at work if the new pics look as good as the gameplay video i'm still excited. i thought it blew away GTA. everything was just much more solid, vibrant and vast.

It's going to make GTA "not matter", am i rite!?

It looks OK

Not Great

Not Bad

OK

Like Full Auto

My standard is different. My opinion is that I don't care if the physics are the most advanced thing ever devised and everything is destructable, ugly is ugly. Same goes for applying 2000 models. 2000 ugly models are still 2000 ugly models. I hate that shit from next-gen, every game uses it and it's almost always leads to repulsive results.

PGR3, Dead or Alive 4, Oblivion, Call of Duty 2 ... these are next-gen.

 

[op_ivy]

first, these screens are not new. they maybe new to the net, but these are among the first shots that were released to magazines. so, we're talking pre-e3.

second, the game terrific in motion. go find the 10 minute gameplay demo from e3, and all you haters will likely be singing a different tune....

 

[Boogie]

Where do you people derive your expectations from?

8 Bit -> 16-bit

16-bit -> PSX/N64

PSX-N64 -> PS2/GC/Xbox

 

[satterfield]

Looks good!

No.

 

[op_ivy]

No.

have you seen it in motion?

 

[AB 101]

Not to bad. Looks a tad "flat" though.

 

[Propagandhim]

Kinda reminds me of the Dead Or Alive 3 Xbox preview screens.. : /

 

[Pimpwerx]

Screens honestly don't do this game justice. I was in the Hate Parade until I saw it in that E3 video, and then it changed my mind. It's got some potential. The shadowing in the game is already very nice. Pretty decent animation too, and everthing seems to ragdoll nicely. I see nothing to complain about if it's really a large city like GTA. PEACE.

 

[op_ivy]

http://www.xboxyde.com/news_1630_en.html
9 minute gameplay demonstration from e3
HOT

the game looks like a better playing version of gta (yeah, i went there ). the graphics are crisp, nice textures , and has great lighting and shadows. draw distance is rediculous, animation looks good, and physics look great. i dont see what there is to complain about.

well, the e3 trailer was horrid

 

[satterfield]

have you seen it in motion?

Yes.

 

[Syb]

From what I've seen in motion, I was pritty impressed.

 

[meelk]

I'm seeing a lot of xbox 360 games that look mysteriously like xbox games in high res.