New study suggests that fast food post workout is just as effective as supplements
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I think you might "feel" a bit better without all that sodium intake but the overall impact on the athlete's performance would be pretty negligible. Dietary supplements are all about placebo anyway, just listen to the way meatheads talk about them in the gym and you'll understand.
This study sounds terrible. Only 11 people.. all endurance athletes.. and the "supplements" they chose were Gatorade, Peanut Butter and some product from Cliff?
I'm not sold on the usefulness of supplements myself.. but how in the world do you draw the conclusion made in the thread title from this? lol
I'm not sold on the usefulness of supplements myself.. but how in the world do you draw the conclusion made in the thread title from this? lol
This doesn't even make sense. What is a "supplement" anyways? Its such a broad category, they definitely have impact beyond placebo.
Ran out of my whey protein and was looking to replace it with something, but as a poster above mentioned, "real" food does the same trick and I'm usually in the position to eat within an hour after my workout anyway. My problem is having stuff throughout the day to eat. Healthy snacks like nuts, yogurt, granola/grains, etc. My metabolism (good and bad) is really high and I just don't put on weight. So to build mass, I need to eat throughout the day and it's difficult. Always thought a protein shake in between meals would help, but it's definitely costly.
Any recommendations? Just stick to the snacks I mentioned above?
Any recommendations? Just stick to the snacks I mentioned above?
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FallingEdge
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What supps in particular?
Yaphett Kotto
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http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/11/04...ng-diet-of-1000-chicken-mcnuggets-in-10-days/
Usain Bolt Ate 100 Chicken McNuggets a Day in Beijing and Somehow Won Three Gold Medals
Yea, I'm definitely hitting Wing Stop today.
Muppet of a Man
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They are also about convenience and the ability to control variables for dietary intake based on goals. A lot of times, they actually wind up being cheaper than buying and preparing food.
For instance, Gold Standard Whey is 78 cents a serving for 24 grams of high quality protein in isolation. You'd be lucky if you could purchase food unprepared for the same amount of protein at 78 cents.
Plus the long term impacts of fast food are horrible to your health.
I think if you have some sort of hormone issue, vitamin deficiency, or other diagnosed medical condition that could be neutralized through dietary supplements, then sure they have an impact. I also don't consider protein shakes to be supplements, but more like a meal replacement that's easier to take with you and consume. For the large majority of the population and most off the shelf "supplements" though, it's just a head game.
MrToughPants
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I stopped using supplements there's no justification to use them with their price tags. They have little to no effect on your body when you consume enough calories from regular food sources.
Many people spend between $100-200/month on supplements...that's enough for a cycle that will make a noticeable difference unlike the supplements.
Many people spend between $100-200/month on supplements...that's enough for a cycle that will make a noticeable difference unlike the supplements.
InfiniteBento
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This will please my roommate since he is connoisseur of eating unhealthy but wants to work out on that diet without changing it as much as possible.
I, however, will stick to just protein shakes and eating healthy. I don't use other supplements though and I loathe fast food too much to even consider this.
I, however, will stick to just protein shakes and eating healthy. I don't use other supplements though and I loathe fast food too much to even consider this.
entremet
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It you're gotta take one supplement. Creatine is the best one. It has the most scientific backing, it's pretty cheap, and it's also a mild nootropic.
Some people are non-responders, though.
But creatine is also derived from animal protein, so if you eat a lot of meat, you're probably getting some as well.
Some people are non-responders, though.
But creatine is also derived from animal protein, so if you eat a lot of meat, you're probably getting some as well.
evilromero
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This has been known for a while but I suppose there weren't many studies to support it.
FallingEdge
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I need to get on a steady diet of tren, clen, and winny.
Naughty_Doge
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I didn't know peanut butter was a supplement...
MrToughPants
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You'd be so massive you'd cause a rift in the space time continuum...
Also you might turn into rage face like Mr Affleck!
Zoe
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They're really talking about refueling, not supplements.
I definitely felt better during the half marathons where I ate Bloks versus the one where all I had was water.
Kind of hard to eat real food while you're running though.
And Michael Phelps breakfast would give most people the itus less than a quarter through it. These dudes burn calories like no one's business.http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/11/04...ng-diet-of-1000-chicken-mcnuggets-in-10-days/
Usain Bolt Ate 100 Chicken McNuggets a Day in Beijing and Somehow Won Three Gold Medals
entremet
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Yep. They've also primed their metabolism from years of training. These are not couch potatoes.
PlayALLtheGames
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Just eat regular fucking food.
You shouldn't be eating fast food and other than protein, weight gainer or some creatine I don't see any use for supplements.
You shouldn't be eating fast food and other than protein, weight gainer or some creatine I don't see any use for supplements.
Chemical Rampancy
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It makes zero sense that post workout McDonalds is more effective more muscle growth than a protein shake.
I am not committing any changes to my life as a result of this study.
I am not committing any changes to my life as a result of this study.
entremet
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Sodium makes me hold water so bad. I could work out and limit my calorie intake but I would never look anything but "built fat"(as far as that would apply to my medium frame) so long as I was eating too much fast food.
It does if your supplements are gatorade, peanut butter, and powerbar.
DUFFMCWALIN
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Don't tell me this. I have such a good diet going right now.
theechrisfox
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My roommate in college was on steroids and did nothing but workout and eat Little Caesar's Hot & Ready pizzas. Dude was jacked.
Good thing I drink a protein shake after workouts. Same amount of protein with a fraction of the carbs.
FallingEdge
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to be fair, he was enhanced and normal rules don't apply to him
not saying he didn't work hard for his goals but he could get away with a lot more than anyone else who was natural.
Dr. Dennis' Magic Vitabars ?
theechrisfox
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He ended up breaking his arm while arm-wrestling, so he didn't get away with it for very long!
entremet
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Exactly. Steroids are going to take care of lot there.
Read about Arnold's diets. It was not clean at all. But he tren hard.
I Stalk Alone
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Some symptoms of vitamin deficiencies dont turn up for months. By then its already too late and you have had the deficiencies for a while. It would be great if the study was done for months then see how many of these atheletes suddenly come into injuries or other health related issues due to what i suspect would come from a vitamin deficiency. But they would have to eat junk all the time For this to work.
This also depends on the nutrient rating of the supplements however.
This also depends on the nutrient rating of the supplements however.
FallingEdge
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Beer Monkey
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I've been saying for years that "clean eating" is broscience.
They'll make your dick grow.
Poodlestrike
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Ugh, white meat :X
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