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[StuBurns]

Wait.

Wait wait wait.

Are the memory cards proprietary?

Are you seriously telling me it's 2011 and we're required to purchase proprietary memory cards?

What. The. Fuck.

Off the shelf cards most likely don't have the performance needed.

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

120 bucks for a 32 gb is not that expensive, really. SD and others must still be cheaper, but it's not catastrophic.

Love posts like these. Love 'em.

 

[BadWolf]

Off the shelf cards most likely don't have the performance needed.

Sony can probably control piracy better this way as well.

 

[Fernando Rocker]

Off the shelf cards most likely don't have the performance needed.

Off the shelf cards are able to record 1080p video footage and uncompressed RAW images from DSLR cameras.

Edit: Wait, I guess it was sarcasm?

 

[Josh7289]

Off the shelf cards most likely don't have the performance needed.

Sarcasm?

 

[Somnid]

Off the shelf cards most likely don't have the performance needed.

With off-the-shelve card you simply buy the performance you need. I doubt Vita's writing page files to it such that it's absolutely necessary.

 

[The Technomancer]

Memory card 4GB December 17, 2011 ¥2,200
Memory card 8GB December 17, 2011 ¥3,200
Memory card 16GB December 17, 2011 ¥5,500
Memory card 32GB December 17, 2011 ¥9,500

I'm sorry, I assumed that I had forgotten the rough yen translation so I had to run these through google.

Nope, I was right with my estimates.

Are you fucking kidding me?

 

[Gravijah]

UMDs read slower than the average SD card, but Vita cards are a lot faster. I think this gives them a "baseline" performance to work with, and it would make sure performance isn't effected for PSN Vita titles.

 

[Betta Lines]

Sony can probably control piracy better this way as well.

Nope.

It is the only way they could have priced the Vita at $249. This is the only reason. Performance and piracy have nothing to do with it.

 

[corporate cheerleader]

120 bucks for a 32 gb is not that expensive, really. SD and others must still be cheaper, but it's not catastrophic.

 

[pharmboy044]

Wait.

Wait wait wait.

Are the memory cards proprietary?

Are you seriously telling me it's 2011 and we're required to purchase proprietary memory cards?

What. The. Fuck.

This has been known since day one. We were just hoping the pricing structure would be reasonable. I guess that's not gonna be the case.

 

[bud]

http://i.imgur.com/XxDnF.gif[IMG][/QUOTE]

what exactly is going on in this gif?

 

[Wazzim]

€237 is good, is the region-free thing really confirmed?

 

[Fafalada]

memory card?! Are we in 1995?

What device (other then those starting with "i") doesn't have "memory cards" in the last 10 years?

Anyway proprietary cards have been known for nearly a year now, not sure what's with all the surprise. The game-carts have save space, so the expansion is for downloads (which granted, many of us will want, but it's hardly needed for the crowd that was screaming at Sony to support cartridge games for the past 7 years).

sounds like 3DS lol.

Actually my 3DS turned itself off when I charged it for the first time while plugged into power - the battery was draining faster then it could charge :/

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

I think the piracy angle is a more likely reason for proprietary cards.

Moral dilemmas about piracy potential aside, I'm betting that a CFW with the ability to utilize a $20 32gig sandisk won't be far off.

Unless I'm blind and there's an actual physical difference in these cards.

 

[Fernando Rocker]

120 bucks for a 32 gb is not that expensive, really. SD and others must still be cheaper, but it's not catastrophic.

Just a quick search at Newegg.

32GB, Class 6, Verbatim... 1/3 of the price.

 

[Gravijah]

Just a quick search at Newegg.

32GB, Class 6, Verbatim... 1/3 of the price.

http://i.imgur.com/nAsOe.png[IMG][/QUOTE]

Vita uses a memory card that is comparable to class 10, no?

 

[beje]

120 bucks for a 32 gb is not that expensive, really. SD and others must still be cheaper, but it's not catastrophic.

Let's ask Amazon again...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0047T6XN8/

That's 3511,29 JPY for a Class 10 32GB card. Yes, it's fucking expensive as hell (almost three times as much).

Edit: beaten

 

[Jinfash]

what exactly is going on in this gif?

This is how we usually applaud all female performers, not just strippers. We strive to treat all woman equally (shitty).

 

[corporate cheerleader]

^GHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH

what exactly is going on in this gif?

The guy is throwing money around.

 

[Fafalada]

32GB, Class 6, Verbatim... 1/3 of the price.

You can expect that will be 1/2 in US.
But I'll bet you that Sony card is at least 2x faster then this Verbatim (or likely, anything that isn't a Sandisk).

 

[theBishop]

What device (other then those starting with "i") doesn't have "memory cards" in the last 10 years?

Anyway proprietary cards have been known for nearly a year now, not sure what's with all the surprise. The game-carts have save space, so the expansion is for downloads (which granted, many of us will want, but it's hardly needed for the crowd that was screaming at Sony to support cartridge games for the past 7 years).


Actually my 3DS turned itself off when I charged it for the first time while plugged into power - the battery was draining faster then it could charge :/

The point is it's a proprietary card, not MicroSD or some other widely used format. Even if it was "known", it's still probably the dumbest part of the Vita so far. And Sony's shooting themselves in the foot because they want people downloading products, not buying in stores.

 

[gofreak]

I don't think the 32GB will be $120 in the US. Sony is not using straight yen->dollars for anything else. Going by the usual conversion I'd expect $90 - still expensive, of course.

 

[chubigans]

I'm sorry, I assumed that I had forgotten the rough yen translation so I had to run these through google.

Nope, I was right with my estimates.

Are you fucking kidding me?

Eh, I'd be surprised if its that much when it comes to the states considering the blue PS3 is $380 over there.

 

[Gravijah]

I don't think the 32GB will be $120 in the US. Sony is not using straight yen->dollars for anything else. Going by the usual conversion I'd expect $90 - still expensive, of course.

Which would put the 16GB at around $50, right?

 

[elty]

I think memory price is expected. Sony probably sells the Vita at loss so they need accessories to recover some cost. I think many people will lose interest here if Vita starts at $399.

Not having HDMI out is very disappointing though.

 

[popeutlal]

Wait I'm confused, Vita does not have internal storage? The memory card is required for Vita to function?

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

Vita uses a memory card that is comparable to class 10, no?

Would be funny if they have to use Class 2 Sandisks for performance reasons like a modded Nook Color

/duck

 

[gofreak]

Wait I'm confused, Vita does not have internal storage?

It doesn't.

The memory card is required for Vita to function?

Some games may need one, but the system doesn't. Many (most?) games will probably have save space on their own game cards.

 

[elty]

Wait I'm confused, Vita does not have internal storage? The memory card is required for Vita to function?

I don't think so. Game card will reserved some free space for patches and game saves. Vita probably has some internal memory for the firmware, but that should be pretty small (1GB?) and user not accessible.

 

[Fernando Rocker]

Wait I'm confused, Vita does not have internal storage? The memory card is required for Vita to function?

No, but it is required if you want DLC and PSN games... maybe some games will require a memory card though. Just like some 360 games are required to have an HDD.

 

[gofreak]

Which would put the 16GB at around $50, right?

I would guess about that, but we'll see.

 

[whitehawk]

No seriously, what's going to happen 6 years from now when the next wave of handhelds come out?

Battery tech HAS to breakthrough at some point, right?

The thing is, battery tech DOES keep getting better. But technology also keeps getting more powerful and requires more energy. So we don't really see an improved battery life =/

 

[StealthGoblin]

So what was the big 'TA-DA!' moment at the press conference?

Was Monster Hunter even mentioned?

 

[Deeku]

Eh, pro stick duos used to be really expensive too. These prices really aren't that bad.

 

[Fafalada]

And Sony's shooting themselves in the foot because they want people downloading products, not buying in stores.

If Sony is shooting themselves in the foot, it would be what they invested in GameCart format development - not rebranded memory sticks in new package.

I would have liked a download only handheld with Vita caliber games - but neither retail nor consumers at large have been very open to that to date - so this is the compromise you get.

 

[StuBurns]

So what was the big 'TA-DA!' moment at the press conference?

Was Monster Hunter even mentioned?

Nothing.

 

[lowrider007]

Off the shelf cards most likely don't have the performance needed.

wow agreed , I'm sure I heard that the transfer rate of these cards are better than regular sd cards/sticks, not that that justifies the price still but I'm dubious that this is just regular SD memory with Sony tax added.

 

[test_account]

Is there any reasons why PS Vita has the same amount of battery life as the 3DS despite being more powerful? Is it because the 3DS' two screens draw more power?

EDIT: Or perhaps the battery in PS Vita is a bit bigger in physical size?

 

[StealthGoblin]

Nothing.

Well done, SCEJ. Well done.

What on earth were they thinking?

 

[beje]

Wait I'm confused, Vita does not have internal storage? The memory card is required for Vita to function?

Not required, but without one of them you can't...
- Download stuff from the PSN
- Save additional data from some games that might require one (FFXI comes to mind)
- Use the music/video players
- Probably use stuff like the social features (FB, Twitter, etc...)

Is there any reasons why PS Vita has the same amount of battery life as the 3DS despite being more powerful? Is it because the 3DS' two screens draw more power?

More space inside to host a physichally bigger battery.

 

[UV-6]

16GB for £45 seems reasonable imo. No problem here

 

[gofreak]

So what was the big 'TA-DA!' moment at the press conference?

Was Monster Hunter even mentioned?

It appeared in a montage - probably Portable 3rd being played via BC - but it wasn't mentioned at all. Studiously avoided, perhaps? A bit of a slap in the face for Sony if they've been locked out for now.

As for ta-da moments...not really any. We learned about more new games outside the conference than during it. Maybe FFX remake was the closest I guess, from a big franchise representation POV.

 

[whitehawk]

Dammit sony, you were doing so well

Although when I look back, a 4GB memory card back in 2005 cost like $300.....

 

[Betta Lines]

Wait I'm confused, Vita does not have internal storage? The memory card is required for Vita to function?

Basically if you want to use the Vita like I use my PSP, you need a memory card. Most people will want to get one, especially when (not if) homebrew kicks off.

This is simply their way of pricing the Vita relatively cheaply. If they claim it is for performance or piracy reasons, they are lying.

 

[corporate cheerleader]

Although when I look back, a 4GB memory card back in 2005 cost like $300.....

Guys guys look Sony's a saint after all!

 

[StuBurns]

Well done, SCEJ. Well done.

What on earth were they thinking?

God knows, it was a mess. There is another PSV conference, so we can't be completely sure they don't have 'bombs' to drop, but it didn't look great.

 

[The Technomancer]

What device (other then those starting with "i") doesn't have "memory cards" in the last 10 years?

This generation has been weird. Nintendo, who people rightfully deride for their terrible online services from a customer perspective, have also made the most pro-consumer hardware decisions.

 

[Ydahs]

Wait I'm confused, Vita does not have internal storage? The memory card is required for Vita to function?

It probably has just enough memory reserved for the inbuilt apps and for firmware updates down the line. It doesn't have internal storage accessible to the user though.

I don't think the 32GB will be $120 in the US. Sony is not using straight yen->dollars for anything else. Going by the usual conversion I'd expect $90 - still expensive, of course.

I don't know. Isn't the Vita cheapest in the US by a fair margin? They might have chosen this price point with the intent of recouping the loss with these propriety cards.

 

[Fafalada]

Would be funny if they have to use Class 2 Sandisks for performance reasons like a modded Nook Color

I'll wait for actual benchmarks, the "ClassX" classification is a blatant lie from most manufacturers (Sandisk being the usual exception here). But the min-spec of writeable cards will have to be at least on par with their GameCarts - otherwise the downlodable games wouldn't work.