Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Looks just like how I expected it to play, consider me excited.
New 'X' trailer [Monolithsoft] shows uncut gameplay
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Sure, but Uncharted or any game series close to it's popularity would be able to pull that off with minimal confusion, the Xeno series is hardly as wide known to get people to instantly expect something like that without doing background research if they never played or seen the games, hearing good things about Xenoblade without actually seeing any of it or general hype in X would only push up interest as well.
So people got "confused" but otherwise intrigued with the little info was given off so far until now with the emphasis on the gameplay trailer (which is the most important aspect of a game to some people) and they got turned off for getting their record set straight. Doing background checks on a developer really isn't a prerequisite on getting interested with a game trailer.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
I'm guessing they didn't want to or have time to cut a whole trailer for the Direct, but Nintendo wanted to show the game, so they just recorded some gameplay to show. Maybe we'll get a more "proper" trailer at E3.
DragonGirl
Member
I'm referring to the people who say it looks bad based on not knowing that it is indeed a JRPG. Example being all the folks who insisted on comparing it to Monster Hunter and calling it a button maser...which is wrong on all fronts. I suppose I'm mostly wasting my temper on drive by posters and trolls.
I guess you don't like online multiplayers game, then !
DragonGirl
Member
Good grief. I don't say classical and people think I'm talking Fallout or Mass Effect when I say RPG, so I modify with the word "classic" to indicate something closer to traditional structure but apparently that's no good either. Has the term RPG become so mushy in its defining traits that it's no longer useful as a genre indicator? What half-dozen modifiers need to be thrown in here to be clear?
Chocolate & Vanilla
Fuck Strawberry
Clearly we need a title change to "X - It's not like fucking Fallout" ...or whatevs
Nintendo already has a game called X do I doubt it.
i imagine this has been said before, but...
this isn't the first time gameplay has been shown, so the "excited at first but now not so much" posts confuse the shit out of me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pJwkEndQ4M
dated a year ago.
not everybody has to like it. auto attack gameplay isn't everyone's cup of tea. but this isn't new.
this isn't the first time gameplay has been shown, so the "excited at first but now not so much" posts confuse the shit out of me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pJwkEndQ4M
dated a year ago.
not everybody has to like it. auto attack gameplay isn't everyone's cup of tea. but this isn't new.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Nintendo has never referred to the game as X, or even by a working title. It's just "A brand new title from Monolith Soft."
Correct. We call it X because of the first trailer where they show the Xenogears X (that also plays a sound effect directly from XG).
Which is why myself and others think this may be part of the Gears line in some way. No other reason to keep it a secret.
OmegaDL50
Member
I don't think that big red X at the end of the original trailer in the post I quoted from pablito, means nothing.
Or also in the 2013 E3 trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--j_CzN0ZTs
Hero of Legend
Member
You don't think Nintendo bought the IP do you? That'd be odd, plus I thought they were making a new IP? Plus the gameplay isn't like Xenogears at all is it?
Yeah. You knew exactly what you were getting into from the get-go. The surprise at what the game plays like makes no sense.
I think it was poor taste on Nintendo's part to go with pure uncut gameplay. It's like doing the same thing with Monster Hunter and expect everyone to grasp why the game is so highly rated among many millions of gamers.
I personally, was thankful I finally got to see gameplay, but once Iwata mentioned '"uncut gameplay," I immediately thought; "oh boy, prepare for a sh!t load of disappointed folks!" You really can't judge games like these based on a couple minutes of uncut gameplay based on a single battle segment.
You can't convey the joy of traversing a large open world in various ways of your choosing(foot, driving, flying), the thrill of exploring a high region by flying your mech/dool, the satisfaction of "parking" your mech to check out a cave or other tight/cramped terrain, come back later and literally jet off to scout out other areas. The options of which 'monsters' you want to battle and when. Perhaps after hearing how many exp points, money, or items you can earn if you take out certain beasts, you take on the challenge - if you can come across that super rare creature! Maybe you want to sell the hide or other loot from a battle to buy some bad-ass piece of equipment for your mech or character. maybe you want the items to trade with another player who has something that really catches your attention. I can just go on forever at what makes games like this fun/interesting/addicting to play, then throw possible online co-op play in the mix... this game could be one heck of an experience once finished.
None of those joys and thrills - that are familiar to these types of games - can be conveyed in a couple minutes during a single battle scene taken out of context. I think Nintendo ought to be more careful how they reveal their big games, but at the same time, you'd think "hardcore" gamers would have less knee-jerk reactions, after seeing this situation over and over and over...
I personally, was thankful I finally got to see gameplay, but once Iwata mentioned '"uncut gameplay," I immediately thought; "oh boy, prepare for a sh!t load of disappointed folks!" You really can't judge games like these based on a couple minutes of uncut gameplay based on a single battle segment.
You can't convey the joy of traversing a large open world in various ways of your choosing(foot, driving, flying), the thrill of exploring a high region by flying your mech/dool, the satisfaction of "parking" your mech to check out a cave or other tight/cramped terrain, come back later and literally jet off to scout out other areas. The options of which 'monsters' you want to battle and when. Perhaps after hearing how many exp points, money, or items you can earn if you take out certain beasts, you take on the challenge - if you can come across that super rare creature! Maybe you want to sell the hide or other loot from a battle to buy some bad-ass piece of equipment for your mech or character. maybe you want the items to trade with another player who has something that really catches your attention. I can just go on forever at what makes games like this fun/interesting/addicting to play, then throw possible online co-op play in the mix... this game could be one heck of an experience once finished.
None of those joys and thrills - that are familiar to these types of games - can be conveyed in a couple minutes during a single battle scene taken out of context. I think Nintendo ought to be more careful how they reveal their big games, but at the same time, you'd think "hardcore" gamers would have less knee-jerk reactions, after seeing this situation over and over and over...
impetuous_silly
Member
That should tell you how much work they still have to do on this game.
No, it doesn't. Do you think that after three years of development time there is no name, or that there is a name that hasn't been revealed yet?
The gameplay sniplets in the first trailer could easily give the impression of something more action oriented. The first trailer showing off enemies jumping off into the air, parts flying and exploding, the player gets sent flying by stomping, the mech dodging...
While that all still holds true some people now saw the combat with 4 players taking near a minute of attacking a small monkey to kill it while it didn't do much then the mech combat was nearly the same as the ground combat as shown off by that trailer (I'm sure aerial combat would change it up more) and simply got turned off.
Some people got the wrong first impression of the combat but they now saw it for what it is and now are disappointed.... not understandable how?
I don't think so really when they keep pretty much everything about the game a secret right now (for whatever reason) the actual name may point to something they don't want revealed just yet.
Seriously. It would have a code name at the very least that they would call it by. They are keeping the name a secret for a reason.
rocketskates
Member
PLEASE BELIEVE xD
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
I just wasn't expecting something like that and I really thought it was a pure singleplayer game.
yiepekaiyei
Banned
i'm certain it is if you want it to. This is not an mmo, you can just play with a party of AI guys, and you choose their abilities and you even get a chain attack on certain points, and you can control all of them, one at once.
But the gameplay is exactly like Xenoblade. And you should've looked after Xenoblade if you were hyped. If you didn't, you weren't hyped. Ever played Dragon Age Origins, or KOTOR, or Neverwinter Nights? It's something like that.
Maybe they were just moderately interested and didn't seek out more info. SHOOT THEM.
Weltall Zero
Member
So people that hated Xenoblade's battle system were hyped for X after the very first trailer confirmed it was pretty much the same.
Uh huh.
Uh huh.
I personally loved Xenoblade to death, battle system included. Once it clicks it's easily the best JRPG system of the past half decade.
SoraanTribal
Member
Man.. you guys... xD
I seriously doubt SE would sell Xenogears (even if they were not using it) or Nintendo would buy the IP. With the exception of the "hardcore" gaming audience, no one even remembers or knows about Xenogears (as painful as that is for me to say - XG being my favorite game). I think it'll be a new IP (well, at least have a new name).
That said, I would be incredibly excited if they decided to go back to that storyline.
They don't necessarily need the XenoGears name. They could name it XenoWorks. Implying that it is taking from the Perfect Works book.
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
I plan on playing Xenoblade. Its just... not easy to get.
Btw: I was hyped for X because of the looks of it and the setting. Xenoblade doesn't have mechs n stuff.
Hero of Legend
Member
Decided to search up the Xenogears trademark, and strangely, it's listed as cancelled:
http://www.trademarkia.com/xenogears-75978614.html
Should Nintendo decide to go after it, would it be worth pennies (figure of speech)?
http://www.trademarkia.com/xenogears-75978614.html
Should Nintendo decide to go after it, would it be worth pennies (figure of speech)?
yiepekaiyei
Banned
thats what I said. Moderately interested is not hyped. Not in my point of view.
You will, trust me. The game is awesome. Its battlesystem is very entertaining. But play with a open mind. It's a turn based rpg. Once you accept that, you'll enjoy the rest.
Hmmm...
SoraanTribal
Member
(Dunno how that happened!)
Yes, it would be amazing. And it would make sense. Even if Xenogears isn't a huge title, it's still really well known.
Oh, I gotcha. I mean, that could happen... I'm not sure, though... Would be cool.
Yes, it would be amazing. And it would make sense. Even if Xenogears isn't a huge title, it's still really well known.
Ser Pounce
Member
I've never bought a console for a specific game, but this will be the closet I've ever come.
After looking at the footage for a while I noticed three things in comparison with the original trailer.
1. The camera position was move away from the controlled character and placed more "aerial." This gives the game a generic MMO feel.
2.The field graphics look weaker. Look at the grass.
3. Animations have less frames, and look clunky.
1. The camera position was move away from the controlled character and placed more "aerial." This gives the game a generic MMO feel.
2.The field graphics look weaker. Look at the grass.
3. Animations have less frames, and look clunky.
yiepekaiyei
Banned
Well, 1 can be explained with xenoblade. The camera had zoom, you could zoom out and in quite a bit actually.
the rest is probably because it's still on alpha. Or the quality of the video.
They said they were interested until they saw it was MP, you started telling people how they had to act if they were hyped. Weird reply to the guys post.
Otakumegane
Member
Or finally tell the original story for it.
With the amount of text in the original Xenogears, I doubt anyone nowadays could voice half of it. I know Xenoblade is an extremely long game (I still haven't finished it). Also I'm not sure if the religious aspects of the original game would cast a pallor because of Nintendo's ambivalence on the subject in the past. I could be wrong, considering Xenosaga I & II's presence on the DS.
yiepekaiyei
Banned
he did not said he was disapointed because of MP (neither should he be. I'm certain this game has a singleplayer only mode). He did say that after he watched the gameplay trailer, he was turned off, and that's ok, but what kind of hype is this? To not research for a game that is a spiritual successor of another very recent game if I was interested? Never seen it.
It's like I'm coming here saying I was hyped for Need For Speed Rivals but I didn't like it because it is an arcade racing game.
The only thing weird here is "hyped" people assumptions about the gameplay of X.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
PSO plays nothing like Phantasy Star IV yet they share the same name and Sci-Fi idea. It's not as if that hasn't happened before. They are of the same name and series.
Plus the idea of some sort of multiplayer being included made people even more gravitate towards familiar ARPGs from Japan that involve multiplayer.
I love how people act like a series has never done this in the JRPG relm despite sharing the same name/series identification. Pisses me off fucking royally. It's as if you fucking people never played Dragon Quest IX which plays nothing like say Dragon Quest II.
When the first teaser was unveiled, it looked identical to Xenoblade. UI, battle system, collectibles- every fiber of the game was steeped in Xenoblade, and there was zero basis for conflating it for otherwise. I have no idea what footage people were looking at if they saw X and thought it was a PSO-styled action RPG.
And who, exactly, has denied this? I, at least, am very aware of JRPGs that have dramatically changed between their traditional formats. But that wasn't the case between Xenoblade and X, so you're not making a point by bringing this up. :/
GameXplain has a new break down regarding the gameplay footage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XuBL2K-GZg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XuBL2K-GZg
