I agree in general, but when it comes to UK, aren't black people a lot more common than asian ones? I would raise a brow if people were trying to make movie in Germany and were pushing black actors in before turkish were even asked.
Next audio book James Bond officially a black guy
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privitsan02
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Why on earth do people keep saying Idris Elba? Daniel Craig still has one movie left in him after Spectre and by then Elba will likely be 47 and that's too old for Bond as Sony and MGM will likely want to cast someone in the mid to late 30s so they can ride out the actor for a good 10-15 years like they are doing with Daniel Craig. The less they change the actors throughout a relevant range the better as a newer audience and generation can grow into the character and stories of James Bond as well.
Picking Idris Elba 6 years from now, (and that's assuming they only take a 2 year break between Bond 25 and Bond 26 in casting + another 2 more years for production) Elba will already be pushing around 48-49. C'mon now, Bond is a huge franchise now, they won't change actors willy nilly like they had in the past in quick succession if they can plan things properly from the get go, unlike Spider-Man.
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Picking Idris Elba 6 years from now, (and that's assuming they only take a 2 year break between Bond 25 and Bond 26 in casting + another 2 more years for production) Elba will already be pushing around 48-49. C'mon now, Bond is a huge franchise now, they won't change actors willy nilly like they had in the past in quick succession if they can plan things properly from the get go, unlike Spider-Man.
Best wishes.
Discotheque
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there's a very sizable asian population in UK. It's reflected in their tv shows too.
I stand corrected then. An eastasian Bond could be interesting too.
They won't and have not gone for big name actors. They go for people they can get on multi film contracts cheap.
This is not going to be changing anytime soon.
If you have seen them as a lead or main character in a blockbuster then no, they are not going to be cast as Bond.
Was happy until I read the OP. But I do think that the time for a black Bond will come soon. There is no reason why Bond should be white, heterosexual or even male.
I'm happy about news like this but what you say is a sad truth. Especially in the UK with its diverse Asian population. Will there ever be a pakistani Bond? Probably not.
I'm happy about news like this but what you say is a sad truth. Especially in the UK with its diverse Asian population. Will there ever be a pakistani Bond? Probably not.
Just checked the statistics, 8% are Asians compared to less than 3.5% blacks.
Messypandas
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Is this an audiobook reading or more like a play?
obin_gam
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It's an audiobook, he'll do other voices in the story as well.
sixteen-bit
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Bond should be a black fellow on film imo
The thing is that most people don't percieve anyone but people from Far East as Asians. That's where this misunderstanding comes from.
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Wouldn't have need a title warning if you just removed that text in place of "Audiobook James Bond..."
You know you want the clicks and thought to yourself that by admitting this was going to be click bait that you'd be Scott free. Well I've got news for you. I will find you and when I do you will kill me.
You know you want the clicks and thought to yourself that by admitting this was going to be click bait that you'd be Scott free. Well I've got news for you. I will find you and when I do you will kill me.
Yep. That's true.
obin_gam
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You're a kite dancing in a hurricane Mr. Amentallica.
freeofgreed
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I may be wrong but in the UK aren't western asians (India, Pakistan) ussually the ones referred to as asians instead of east asians?
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Not in the UK.
Asian just as easily means South Asian. Plus South Asians are probably more integrated in our culture.
It is a very US-centric opinion to suggest we should have a black Bond. Although there are several great black candidates, a South Asian would probably be better fitting to our cultural composition (though less marketable I would sadly predict).
Oyelowo would make a good Bond, plus he has spy experience!
Yeah, should've been clearer on that one. It's more a common thing in the US and where I live (Germany).
CyclopsRock
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Or called Bond!
Yuh - south Asian's are by far the largest non-white ethnicity in the UK. And yeah, the demands for a "black Bond" do seem to primarily come from the US. I think right now Dev Patel is a bit too baby faced and happy looking but give it ten years and he might be a good fit for the role.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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"trigger mortis"?
IdreamofHIME
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Horrible. I don't like his voice..which is crucial for a audio gig.
tbh I think only Dalton has a good Bond voice from everyone who's done it.
tbh I think only Dalton has a good Bond voice from everyone who's done it.
Bobby Roberts
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While you're all in here discussing James Bond audiobooks and such:
Feel free to listen to the BBC Radio Drama productions of some James Bond books, starring Toby Stephens as Bond.
Dr. No - with David Suchet and Peter Capaldi
From Russia With Love - with Mark Gatiss and Julian Sands
Goldfinger - with Ian McKellen, Rosamund Pike, and Tom Hollander
On Her Majesty's Secret Service - with Alfred Molina and Joanna Lumley
Feel free to listen to the BBC Radio Drama productions of some James Bond books, starring Toby Stephens as Bond.
Dr. No - with David Suchet and Peter Capaldi
From Russia With Love - with Mark Gatiss and Julian Sands
Goldfinger - with Ian McKellen, Rosamund Pike, and Tom Hollander
On Her Majesty's Secret Service - with Alfred Molina and Joanna Lumley
Bobby Roberts
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They're coming from inside the house, actually: EON's met with Idris Elba multiple times. They didn't do that because the US was asking them to. Now, Elba's taken himself out of the running publicly, but he also confirmed that the meetings happened in the first place.
Basically - the US didn't have to ask for "Black Bond" to be taken seriously. EON was already doing it.
Messofanego
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Ooh if we're going with south Asian Bond, then Riz Ahmed is an easy choice (Britz, Four Lions, The Reluctant Fundamentalist, Nightcrawler, The Road To Guantanamo). Great actor.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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What does that even mean, really? Like your hand has permanent bad trigger discipline?
dragonyeuw
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Fassenbender is 38, same age as Craig when he took on the role, and younger than Brosnan who was 41 in Goldeneye, Moore was 46 in Live and let die, and Dalton was 43 in Living daylights.
Messofanego
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Dalton was my favourite.
Or it could just be I just think Living Daylights stands out as being darker from the rest of the Bond movies (which I find generally boring) in terms of more grounded characters and escapades before Casino Royale came along. Apparently his version was also the closest to the books.
Hollywood's output matches the US breakdown pretty well with the exception of black roles. Asian actors are better represented by percentage than the relative population of the US.
Black roles are the only ones that are severely under represented based on population percentage.
NoFaceNico
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Tyler Perry should be the next Bond. The man is so talented, he can play so many roles.
"Yo, Q?! HELLER!!!"
"Yo, Q?! HELLER!!!"
SameDalton was my favourite.
Or it could just be I just think Living Daylights stands out as being darker from the rest of the Bond movies (which I find generally boring) in terms of more grounded characters and escapades before Casino Royale came along. Apparently his version was also the closest to the books.
MHWilliams
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Nah.
Chiwetel Eijiofor, who was rumored to be up for The Doctor at some point.
TheGreatDirector
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Well, Bond could be a Lesbian, or Bisexual, but never full gay, one of the defining traits of the character is that Bond is a womanizer, a 100% gay Bond wouldn't be Bond at all.
At that point the only way fully gay Bond could work is retconning the name as a mantle, ie, all 007 agents must assume the name "james bond" instead of pretending it's an actual person.
Which it's something i always wanted them to do, but im no true Bond fan, so im guessing hardcore fans would have a problem with the idea like everytime it is brought up.
Bobby Roberts
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If they're actively pursuing the idea of a non-white James Bond, then they are considering it.
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said it before and i'll say it again
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Dalton was my favourite.
Or it could just be I just think Living Daylights stands out as being darker from the rest of the Bond movies (which I find generally boring) in terms of more grounded characters and escapades before Casino Royale came along. Apparently his version was also the closest to the books.
Are you sure you don't mean Licence to Kill? That is the darker Timothy Dalton Bond movie.
Messofanego
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I think promiscuity is a Bond trait, not being exclusively heterosexual. I could see a gay Bond being more like Jim Carrey in I Love You Phillip Morris or Michael Douglas in Behind The Candelabra. Or he's more monogamous. The Living Daylights, he's pretty monogamous. One of the best parts of Casino Royale is Craig's relationship with Vesper, rather than the token bond girls.
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