FranXico
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Which ran at 1080p30 with a lot of frame rate dips.
People have to get used to the idea that real time Ray Tracing is expensie.
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People have to get used to the idea that real time Ray Tracing is expensie.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Funny thing is the thread got closed and people are proclaiming "bias!" at the closing.
Truth is other mods probably looked at the way he backtracked from a "pool of devs" to "oh that one game whose framerate wasn't very good in a trailer" and said "We really don't need to advertise this shit with a thread" lol
Empire Strikes Back
Member
Funny, I think this happened the same time they announced Minecraft RTX beta...
/jk I don't remember, unless...?
In all seriousness, they also showed Gears 5 with hybrid RT or something like that.
MasterCornholio
Member
Is it a 9.2 TF system?
I personally haven't seen any proof for that nor have I seen proof that the XSX brute forces everything.
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sircaw
Banned
It was good while it lasted.
Bon voyage all
Setsuna Mudou
Member
Well, some exaggeration in a few of those points, but most were MS punching themselves on the dick over and over again, right?
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Kinda interesting actually that 2 of the things (maybe THE 2 things) are both RayTracing related.
Dev's don't have AMD RT hardware on PC.
sircaw
Banned
I did get a warning, my first and probably not my last for using the word Brute force in another thread.
Saying that, when I did use it, I did not know it was a term you could get a warning for. Sigh.
Thanks Eastwood and sleepdoctor for reporting me.
Since then I have been out for blood and have report
IntentionalPun
a hundred times for trolling.but he never gets banned,
Mod of War
, you lazy switch user.
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FunkMiller
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What's your source for this please? It's a 10.28 tflop machine, according to literally everywhere.
What's your source for this please? It's a 10.28 tflop machine, according to literally everywhere.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Cerny is lying, 9TF, Software RT, SSD numbers a lie, RDNA 1.5, etc
The fud has been constant. I know it hurts that nothing has panned out true, and the brilliant MS marketing strategy has been a complete dud, and the most that came out of the big white hope that Xbox event was positioned as, was only Craig and laughter.
People just like to hate on what's popular because they believe they know what should be popular instead, but dems the breaks.
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MasterCornholio
Member
I did get a warning, my first and probably not my last for using the word Brute force in another thread.
Saying that, when I did use it, I did not know it was a term you could get a warning for. Sigh.
Thanks Eastwood and sleepdoctor for reporting me.
SleepDoctor had his report feature disabled BTW.
sircaw
Banned
Maybe so but he was asking everyone in the thread to report me
Same thing in my book
zaitsu
Banned
AD.1 Xbox has games, just no good exclusive in this gen and probably nothing till 2023 i next.
AD.2 Halo is just bad, XSX games will look better for sure.
AD.3 XSX can do RT, like i've said we can laugh about medium deleting RT but it was probably misteake
AD.4 We don't know yet...
AD.5 Xbox is balanced system, just with zero finese
Neo Blaster
Member
And Gears 5, looks like just enhanced BC so far.
Empire Strikes Back
Member
This video is from March, I guess. Minecraft RTX came out on April... Interesting.
sircaw
Banned
the closest I saw was this article, just the mention of the word.
It's clear that the PS5 is nimble and smart while the Xbox Series X has brute force power, but there are many other aspects to consider. Here we outline them all
PS5 vs Xbox Series X — how different are they, really?
It's clear that the PS5 is nimble and smart while the Xbox Series X has brute force power, but there are many other aspects to consider. Here we outline them all
MasterCornholio
Member
the closest I saw was this article, just the mention of the word.
It's clear that the PS5 is nimble and smart while the Xbox Series X has brute force power, but there are many other aspects to consider. Here we outline them all
PS5 vs Xbox Series X — how different are they, really?
It's clear that the PS5 is nimble and smart while the Xbox Series X has brute force power, but there are many other aspects to consider. Here we outline them allwww.wired.co.uk
To be fair a developer can just be lazy and just brute Force with both systems. But each system has customizations that allow developers to use the hardware better.
sircaw
Banned
Is this will the new ssd? 9 seconds loading time, can you remember what it is without?
goddammit I get confused with labeling all the time.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Lol you trying to get banned?
sircaw
Banned
Yep for sure.
I was more meaning the word used on these forums, not sure in this thread but I recall it in others.
MasterCornholio
Member
There's a topic of debate that I like alot and that's which systems customizations are superior. You can get into all kinds of discussions with that.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
no one says this. in fact you are projecting because thats what we have been saying about xbox fans spreading 9 tflops nonsense this whole time. its not enough their console is 12 tflops, the ps5 must be a shitbox.
sircaw
Banned
There is so much to look forward to in the next months, those customizations you talk about, although I am not the brightest spanner in the toolbox, that kinda stuff is going to be very interesting indeed.
squidilix
Member
Did I just see a textures loading on the LIPS ? WTF
Mr Moose
Gold Member
Yup.
The water is weird, too, it seems to react to them landing in it a second or two after. (3-ish minutes in).
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Thirty7ven
Banned
That's it right there.
Metroiddarks
Member
He told me was he has a degree in machine learning ..... similar but not the same.
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Captain Hero
The Spoiler Soldier
I just woke up and dreamt of Ordering a PS5 from Amazon and the price was $560
damn I hate this dream
damn I hate this dream
BlueXImpulse
Banned
7 years of hell. That's what they went through. After X360 they were supposed to continue riding the train of success but it didn't turn out that way. This is revenge on their part.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
- Sony is broke
- PS4 has no games
- PS4 Pro catching on fire
- PS5 Pro Overheating
- Spider-Man PS4 puddle gate
- Mark Cerny made changes at the last second because they were caught off guard by Microsoft
- RDNA 1 and not RDNA 2
- Cerny lying about HW RT
- PS5 won't have VRS
- PS5 won't have ML\DLSS like features
- SSD won't do anything but load games faster
- Difference between both consoles are staggering.
- PS5 will throttle based on room temperature.
- It's really a 9TF console instead of 10.2TF
- Sony using COVID as an excuse to drop out of gaming events because they're scared to show off their weaker hardware.
- PS5 will struggle in open world games.
- Spider-Man MM is DLC that can run on the base PS4 console
- The Last of Us Part II delay was a result of internal problems and not COVID.
- Unreal 5 demo was running on a laptop at 1440p and above 30fps on a laptop with a weaker SSD
- Every time PS4 exclusive game sales well, it sales poorly because of attach rate.
- Exclusives don't matter, it's all about the best version of multiplats.
sircaw
Banned
I think gears looks nice, the only thing I don't like is the characters, they feel so dumpy-looking to me, like kinda fat.
Hard to explain.
Zoro7
Banned
Not sure what point you're trying to make here bud?
Empire Strikes Back
Member
To be fair, I guess they said somewhere that Xbox Velocity Architecture wasn't finished yet.
DrDamn
Member
Some of your examples are fair enough. These two though ...
They are self inflicted by MS and they need to be addressed for the discourse to stop. If Halo isn't the quality of game we can expect then show something which is. Show something of quality running on an XSX and you instantly have a counter point to the claims.
I absolutely think they will eventually, but that narrative fits what they have shown so far unfortunately.
BlueXImpulse
Banned
Seems like Xbox fans are becoming like PC Master Wait.
#PlaystationAdvantage might be completely out of the reach of Game Pass.
Empire Strikes Back
Member
It would be kind of dumb of Sony not to include a clause "This game can only appear in subscription services of PlayStation" or something like that.
Seems like Xbox fans are becoming like PC Master Wait.
#PlaystationAdvantage might be completely out of the reach of Game Pass.
sircaw
Banned
FunkMiller
Banned
Don't let him flounder sircaw. Only you cod keep him safe.
jose4gg
Member
And...
- Is the SSD speed constant or is variable?
- "I'm looking at a difference of 30-40fps"
- PS5 was suppose to be released in 2019
- Sony is having heat issues and they will delay the release to 2021 because they don't want to make a console that looks like a towel like MS.
FunkMiller
Banned
There was so much about this one, wasn't there? Got to a point where it felt like it must be true, just because so many people were touting it as real.
MasterCornholio
Member
sircaw
Banned
I was watching them trying to impregnate the last two northern white rhinos on the planet an hour ago.
Just like those rhino's, X-fighter is a rare, almost extinct creature on these forms.
I will do my best to save him but as for the impregnating side of things, well I was thinking of a couple of people that could do that job.
They will not be happy.
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Gediminas
Banned
you all forget that one:
CPU and GPU don't run at max clocks
and they tried to push the PS5 size as 50cm tall
jose4gg
Member
Yep, specially because Sony wasn't talking about anything but thanks God everything changed when we saw the final design.
BurnCoalMeltPole
Member
Your hypothetical example implies a performance difference of around 50x the on paper GPU compute difference, something very unlikely to be realized in the real world except under perhaps extreme negligence in the coding department.
The delta between the PS4 and Xbox One is actually a bit larger than the on paper compute difference because of the improvements to asynchronous compute, which significantly bolsters GPU efficiency if it is properly utilized (see GoT or TLOU2). This effectively provides hundreds of gigaflops/sec available for workloads that might otherwise be done on the CPU or not at all (see GG's procedural foliage placement algorithm).
The PS5 should have a sizable advantage with I/O on a millisecond basis because of how streamlined the system is for both sustained throughput and latency. This is particularly important because both consoles are trying to virtually extend main memory with storage, a key architectural change for next generation. And the PS5 may have a major advantage with geometry as well because of its custom solution (the Geometry Engine), whereas the XSX appears to be using the standard geometry processor. Sill, there may be other key advantages that probably will not be confirmed until the official teardown. Sony worked with AMD to develop a more advanced APU at the cost of sacrificing some compute performance.
An efficient architecture effectively boosts the power of a computer, allowing its real world performance to closer approach its theoretical capability.
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MasterCornholio
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I actually wonder if he means that the games being moneyhatted are games that are too big for Gamepass, like major AAA titles
Seems like Xbox fans are becoming like PC Master Wait.
#PlaystationAdvantage might be completely out of the reach of Game Pass.
BlueXImpulse
Banned
I'd say you are likely correct.
Bergoglio
Member
None can go bigger than MS money. They moneyhatted everyone in 360 era
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pasterpl
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not sure what you have expected, they have hammered Xbox series x enhanced for moths now, it is what it says on the label, xbone enhanced Game running with enhancements on xbsex
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