BlueXImpulse
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Xbox has its own budget. They don't have unlimited access to the MS money.
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Xbox has its own budget. They don't have unlimited access to the MS money.
SportsFan581
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MasterCornholio
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But they can go higher than Xbox money. I think that's the point.
sircaw
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Everything they showed in those videos was BC related.
Your another White Rhino, I will protect you.
Explosive Zombie
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I see the FUD on the forum is in overdrive today.
Insane Metal
Member
Dayum.
Seems like Xbox fans are becoming like PC Master Wait.
#PlaystationAdvantage might be completely out of the reach of Game Pass.
Sony going strong for exclusivity again. Fun times ahead lol
Bergoglio
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if They didn't go higher with the hardware, did they go with software?
750 millions are like 10 AA team or more.
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BlueXImpulse
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Forget about the 750mil fee. It comes from an unreliable source.
MasterCornholio
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Then why are they getting those timed exclusives then if Microsoft can outbid them?
Just saying the notion that Xbox has access to all of Microsofts money is just silly.
As for the hardware how do you explain the slower I/O?
As for the software how do you explain Halo Infinite?
It's not just the money they have access to its how they use it.
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Bergoglio
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One reason is because there's nothing really big for the first 24 months except Horizon 2 and they have to keep the momentum hardware/software etc.
MS has STALKER 2, a particular game but a very high quality product; I think things willl change over time once these Sony temporal exclusives are revealed. Just my opinion.
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MasterCornholio
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So what does the competition have for the 1st 24 months then?
You did say you know Sonys lineup for the next 2 years I'm wondering if you know Microsoft's as well.
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Empire Strikes Back
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Just buy Java Edition. Bedrock is MTX hell.
kretos
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good thing Sony is securing those multiplats to be console exclusive then. can't compare multiplats if there is only 1 version
Mr Moose
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Bergoglio
Member
Just Halo, and Halo is a big title. People buyed a Switch just for one title. And they have Game Pass. Really aggressive Game Pass and price
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MasterCornholio
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Halo Infinite looks like a mess in my opinion. Plus with the multiplayer being FTP there could be very little reason for people to buy the single player.
Bergoglio
Member
I mean, sometimes brand name is enough to bring people to you
kretos
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Xbox doesn't always have access to daddy's wallet
Gamernyc78
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This is why I luv this forum, some really cool infidels in hereNeed to pull out all the stops to welcome Bo back. That means you in a cheerleader outfit andyewles1 with the pom-poms. So shave those legs you hairy mutt and try and make yourself presentable..
Take one for the team, I won't judge.
Bergoglio
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They've had it for hardware, they've got it for day one exclusives on game pass, ("not a big money maker right now") they've got it to go at a loss since xbox has existed.
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MasterCornholio
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Same can be said about the PlayStation brand. But brands can fail overtime just like franchises can.
One day Halo is popular the next it isn't as popular. Same can happen with PlayStation.
Over the years I haven't seen an increase in popularity for the Halo franchise ever since 343 started making them. Maybe things will change for Infinite but if the game isn't good that will spread via word of mouth. Like how BioWare plumetted over the years for example.
Sometimes you need alot more than a face to bring people over.
It is 3 insomniac deals let that set it in. Sony figures it will make money back raising ecosystem fees on publishers and users after Microsoft folds the division. A monopoly is going to monopoly.
MasterCornholio
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They could have had more ram and made it unified. But they ran into their budgets limits.
Neo Blaster
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My point was those are the only games shown running on XSX so far.
Everything they showed in those videos was BC related.
saintjules
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IllegalLemon
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It's not about who has or hasn't got the Geometry Engine. It's tech that was found in Radeon GPU's as far back as Polaris, maybe even earlier than that, so both have it. In actuality though it's not about who has it, it's how it's customized, what unique functionality it brings to the table and how efficient it is. PS5's Geometry Engine is a heavily talked about feature. It's been talked about by Sony and even some devs have spoken fondly about it and the best part is, it's fully baked into the hardware and heavily customized by Sony and fit to do a lot of things in an efficient manner. So, while both consoles have it, it's more advanced in one console than the other.
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Metroiddarks
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I believe could be true for the simple reason than the problems in the development exists, the reason why that happens could be many:
-They used an old dev kit
-Some issue or missing features API in the PS5 dev kit
-Its engine adapt better to the hardware of XSX
That means the problem will still in the end of course not, they have more than year for work in that game an one of the reason of why the
studios prefer to work with consoles instead only PC is regarding its support when you have problems with you project.
So that means the version PS5 will reach XSX maybe not or maybe yes, just guys stop play to be armchair devs and wait until the next year
when the version of PS5 and XSX are closer to be gold.
In the personal I think is stupid a game like RE8 doesn't reach a higher resolution but I am not an "insider" so whatever.
Dusk golem learn a very simple thing, if you want say something like that and then you said be tired of the console war, that is to sin innocent or be
stupid don't play to be an insider while talk about problems in the development if you cannot give proof or at least try to explain the reason
of the problems.
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Neo Blaster
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See? This is what MS PR did to these people, they don't want exclusives of any kind, they want games included on Gamepass the moment they are available.
Seems like Xbox fans are becoming like PC Master Wait.
#PlaystationAdvantage might be completely out of the reach of Game Pass.
Nickolaidas
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Gamepass *is* X-Box at this point.
sircaw
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This is why I luv this forum, some really cool infidels in here
What do you mean infidel, Excuse me, you are basically talking to a royal bloodline here,
I might be 5000 cousins removed from the throne, but I am still inline to it.
I will let this one slide, for now, Barbarian features.
SportsFan581
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GP didn't create cheap gamers, that's valve's thing. There will always be people that are completely sold on a game, but will wait 2 or 3 years to get it on sale. GP is essentially just the other side of that same coin, with the exception of the smaller games that launch there and MS first-party.
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DeltaPolarBear
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I agree with everything you said.
However, that does not change what Xbox PR is saying. And what they said do matter. Because telling customers to not buy your machine, is basically backwards marketing. That will affect sales.
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Neo Blaster
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Well, here in Brazil situation is a bit worse than that due to eternal economic crysis, I see many people on social networks saying they don't want to buy games anymore because they'll just wait for the game on Gamepass. There're even extremists wishing games to flop hard in sales so they can arrive faster on the service, probably gamers too used to piracy on 360 era.
Killer Sakoman
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Alot of people left gaming in my country due to end of piracy, but a new generation came and games are popular again.
LED Guy?
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OK now Matt from REEEEEE has put these FUD rumors about RE8 & PS5 resolution/FPS to rest, then Matt concluded that the differences between XSX & PS5 are smallest differences in any generation of consoles, just like I expected, now back to normal where Xbox gets its ass smacked by PlayStation! 
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LED Guy?
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Killer Sakoman
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OK now Matt from REEEEEE has put these FUD rumors to rest, then Matt concluded that the differences between XSX & PS5 are smallest differences in any generation of consoles, just like I expected, now back to normal where Xbox gets its ass smacked by PlayStation!
I said it before, the difference on paper is very small. It is just people looking at the TF number and ignoring the whole GPU. The two GPUs will give exactly same resolution and performance with dips here and there depending each one's advantage. I am talking multiplats, put the IO in and PS5 is something else.
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FunkMiller
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Jesus, we need some more news and gameplay footage from both consoles. Otherwise sircaw is going to rub his flippers off keeping people safe round here...
yewles1
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What are you, an Alaskan Pollock all of a sudden?
sircaw
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the scary thing is I have been offering to protect my box friends and they have not replied at all.
Either my banter sucks, extremely likely, or they have ignored me.
Trying to spread love is hard.
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sircaw
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btw do you like Rhinos?
I need a volunteer for something very important. keep reading those posts you will eventually get there.
MasterCornholio
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Just a theory here. If the XSX was 4 times as powerful as the PS5 we would be hearing it from alot more places.
Moridianae
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The difference isn't that high and never really was. If Sony spec bumped as is rumored, it's even smaller.
Even if they didn't, their custom architecture seems to keep things on relatively even ground, with only a small group of folks nitpicking it.
Most gamers won't mind. This was just more ridiculous warring nonsense coming out ahead of what looks to be a couple of busy weeks.
Even if they didn't, their custom architecture seems to keep things on relatively even ground, with only a small group of folks nitpicking it.
Most gamers won't mind. This was just more ridiculous warring nonsense coming out ahead of what looks to be a couple of busy weeks.
yewles1
Member
I'd guess Satya Nadella putting his foot down on organized revenue streams, he's more willing to kill off services if they're going to meet his vision of profit. BTW, how're Windows Mobile and Mixer doing?
HeisenbergFX4
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When Digital Foundry said they had to come up with a different way to compare next gen games instead of pixel counting thats saying the games will be too close in looks.
Moridianae
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Snowdonhoffen
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OK now Matt from REEEEEE has put these FUD rumors about RE8 & PS5 resolution/FPS to rest, then Matt concluded that the differences between XSX & PS5 are smallest differences in any generation of consoles, just like I expected, now back to normal where Xbox gets its ass smacked by PlayStation!
At this point, it doesn't matter if it's already clarified. The usual suspects are going to run with it and spread it.
StreetsofBeige
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LOL.OK now Matt from REEEEEE has put these FUD rumors about RE8 & PS5 resolution/FPS to rest, then Matt concluded that the differences between XSX & PS5 are smallest differences in any generation of consoles, just like I expected, now back to normal where Xbox gets its ass smacked by PlayStation!
I forget. Before MS and PS revealed their system's TF power, what was "insider Matt's" opinion at the time of TF? Was he one of those PS5 13TF > Xbox 12TF so he could keep the forum chill as opposed to telling gamers since 2019 with his awesome insider info that Xbox would be 12 and PS5 10?
MaulerX
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good thing Sony is securing those multiplats to be console exclusive then. can't compare multiplats if there is only 1 version
I know this was meant as a pro-Playstation comment but that's probably exactly why they're Moneyhatting third party content. They don't want people to see their inferior version of multiplats so just make them timed exclusive to soften the blow.
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