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sircaw
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Just give me a wonder woman game will Gal Gadot(total babe) in it, I will be like a kid on a jump for Jesus trampoline.
and if people want to link pictures of her in that stunning Wonderwoman outfit, i won't stop ya.
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Moridianae
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8-9 days remain in the month of August with little to go on for both systems, though Microsoft has shared more in the long run for better or worse.
I'd settle for any news at this point from either party. It feels like next-gen just..isn't really happening.
I trust
HeisenbergFX4
(and my utmost condolences to him) and his birdies saying something is coming. Gamescom needs to bring something too.
After Gotham: The Division(probably late 2021 looked early) and Suicide Squad(2022?!), my disappointment is quite high.
I'd settle for any news at this point from either party. It feels like next-gen just..isn't really happening.
I trust
HeisenbergFX4
(and my utmost condolences to him) and his birdies saying something is coming. Gamescom needs to bring something too.After Gotham: The Division(probably late 2021 looked early) and Suicide Squad(2022?!), my disappointment is quite high.
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hemo memo
You can't die before your death
But Microsoft have a system everyone knows about already that Microsoft didn't announce yet and I think Sony is waiting for that too and how much it's going to cost so they can adapt.
Neo Blaster
Member
That's quite a generic definition, it applies to many more things than games. But I agree with you, just because it doesn't suit me does not mean it's not a game.
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Neo Blaster
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Except that throwing first party stuff day and date on the service is one of the main reasons, if not the most, that MS games' quality is plummeting.
Moridianae
Member
On another note,
There has been talk of Sony having major bombs to drop. I question, if any of them are launch titles, is it really possible they could be kept secret this long? Buried, unheard of and unleaked roughly 2-2.5 months before launch?
There has been talk of Sony having major bombs to drop. I question, if any of them are launch titles, is it really possible they could be kept secret this long? Buried, unheard of and unleaked roughly 2-2.5 months before launch?
FeiRR
Banned
Wait, what? Was Division 3 announced? I totally missed it.
Moridianae
Member
I wish, but that's the closest thing I can compare GK to. I haven't played Avengers, but it just reminded me of Division immediately.
saintjules
Member
Would not be surprised!
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FeiRR
Banned
That sounds like more than a year.Would not be surprised!
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BlueXImpulse
Banned
Would not be surprised!
This is exactly what they need to do to give Series X owners the best game possible. My only issue with it is purely from a perspective of MS is going back on their initial messaging yet again.
SportsFan581
Member
Being serious, doesn't an average 1TB drive have like 400TB of writes in it? Hopefully, they would do some compression to get numbers down. Though, zlib on 5GB of data is going to add some time to the mix, even on a Zen.
Neo Blaster
Member
Are Xbox fans resorting to selective lists again? I demand good old FUD, this is boring.
BlueXImpulse
Banned
eastwood was permed?
Neo Blaster
Member
To be more accurate, they are second party: PS studios didn't develop the game, but the IP is Sony's.
SportsFan581
Member
I'm assuming he's thinking it is a basic save state. I don't know if you need that, but wouldn't a lot of what is in VRAM at any given second be things that the GPU has been working on? So, maybe not just raw files from the drive. It's a common technique in emulation to just dump ram as a way of creating save points where/when the original software did not support such a feature.
geordiemp
Member
Consoles have hardre decompeession only, Kraken and Zlib. The compression is done when game is coded.
SSfox
Member
Would not be surprised!
The day MS decided to make the game cross it already shoot the game in the leg with some hardcore bullet.
Grinchy
Banned
It still doesn't explain why it looks worse than current gen games and still has to run lower than 900p. How did they spend 5 years developing a bad-looking current gen game that struggles to hit 900p?Would not be surprised!
It doesn't exactly instill any confidence that switching it to a next-gen development will solve any problems. It just sounds like the team has no idea what they are doing.
SportsFan581
Member
I was referring to the possibility that MS would use zlib on a RAM dump to save writes to the drive, they'd have to use the CPU for that.
JonnyMP3
Member
It's possible, the DE console came out of nowhere.
Neo Blaster
Member
Let's put it straight:
First party: developed inside Sony/MS studios, platform holder owns the IP.
Second party: developed outside Sony/MS studios, platform holder owns the IP.
Third party: developed outside Sony/MS studios, platform holder doesn't own the IP.
on MS side, The Ori and Forza Horizon franchises are second party examples.
JonnyMP3
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FranXico
Member
Most likely a FFXVI timed exclusivity deal or something, can't believe much more than that. They might have one substancial announcement or two, but I think people are blowing those out of proportion.
We already have an idea about the launch lineup by now.
sircaw
Banned
Is the damage not already done with the halo game though? i mean if they wanted to drop support for the old console, would they not have to redesign the whole game world again.
surely they made cuts, restrictions, compromises or added areas to hide loading etc, so that the older consoles could perform ok.
I mean we are talking a major rework here, would two years be enough if that rumor is true.
also if they walked back that promise, on playing on all consoles would that hit them really hard in the long run.
I believe in console generations, new games for new consoles, Bc is cool but Microsoft has kinda shot themselves in the foot on this one, not sure how they fix it tbh.
surely they made cuts, restrictions, compromises or added areas to hide loading etc, so that the older consoles could perform ok.
I mean we are talking a major rework here, would two years be enough if that rumor is true.
also if they walked back that promise, on playing on all consoles would that hit them really hard in the long run.
I believe in console generations, new games for new consoles, Bc is cool but Microsoft has kinda shot themselves in the foot on this one, not sure how they fix it tbh.
zubairali2
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ArcaneNLSC
Member
Would not be surprised!
If this is true then damn the game is in a far worse state first thought. Slipspace engine seems like a nightmare decision to move to and develop in the immediate long term as now it will force them to potentially sacrifice the current gen version and delay until 2022.
BlueXImpulse
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GuessNXGamer nailed the ideal fix!
It is all about the lighting and that's it! All it needed was more lighting as they were in the shadows for the entire trailer(but they weren't really) . Did I mention that the lighting was the only problem?
They are not the same you are correct. However as I was stating, there is no such thing as a 'vertical stand'. Only a 'stand'.
You'll notice that the stands on both the DE and the disc version have a taller left side compared to the right side. This is to accommodate the curved design when in use horizontally, but the slot in the stand means it doubles up as a vertical stand too.
So again, there's 'vertical stand' or 'horizontal stand'. Just a stand, which differs slightly by console version. The post therefore, quoting this 'vertical stand' as a $30 accessory must be fake.
JonnyMP3
Member
Angles of the Sun!!!
lepermessiah
Member
Asset loading issues eh 
Aceofspades
Banned
Guess
I thought Next gen won't be affected because of scalability and sh*t?
If this ended up true, then Gamepass initiative would suffer.
Vaztu
Member
All the PS5 fans in this thread(and elsewhere) were saying making it crossgen is a bad move. XSX fans told us we were wrong and that PS5 is anti-consumer, making new PS4 owners buy a PS5 just to play nextgen games.
This is the right move for Halo Infinite; and they should stick with this decision for any other AAA games they plan to make crossgen.
This is the right move for Halo Infinite; and they should stick with this decision for any other AAA games they plan to make crossgen.
zubairali2
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Killer Sakoman
Member
Yes, If delayed to early 2022, that's almost 2 years. They are a big team and Microsoft should invest in more jobs. They can definitely rework it.
A good idea is to rebrand it as Halo 6 and remove any constrains that will hold it back financially (xone and game pass).
The game cannot look like the demo in 2021, even Gotham nights looks generations ahead
Bonsaibäumchen
Member
Thank I was going to reply:"B- bu- but they all said old gen won't hold back next gen?!"
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
Would not be surprised!
I get it. Dropping Xbox One goes against their strategy of the subscription service model. They don't want to lose Xbox One numbers. It was the wrong decision.
Neo Blaster
Member
Damn, MS must have made a fortune out of controllers this gen.
saintjules
Member
It really felt like they had to show the gameplay reveal to justify its existence and have something to justify the showcase. Then delay it shortly thereafter on purpose because they knew they were nowhere near done.
I'm not Halo fan by any means, but hopefully the delay gets the game many deserve. Because what we saw ain't it for sure.
lepermessiah
Member
I want muh Craig DLC side story though.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
C'mon, that's ridiculous. Have you seen the backlash? Why would they bring negative press before the console release. They messed up. Simple as that. It's not a conspiracy.
MasterCornholio
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HawarMiran
Banned
'DoA' confirmed Xbox launch exclusive?
'Dead on Arrival'
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Mr. PlayStation
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Lets just say those who thought PS5 was anti-consumer for having sony invest on exclusive games to harness the next-gen console, are fucking idiots.
Killer Sakoman
Member
They will have to pull a 180 on current gen and day one release on Game Pass requirement.
If they have to invest money on Halo, they will need to sell it for $60/70. The bad demo was a result of restricted budget to allow the game to be profitable on GP. Afterall, even a 30 million GP subscribers won't return the development costs. You still have to feed other games and 3rd party developers.
kyliethicc
Member
Its really even simpler. If Sony is funding the game, its 1st party.
Sony doesn't call anything 2nd party, according to Insomniac. We juse use that term. Thats why every one of those PS5 games has PS Studios branding, even though Sony doesn't own Bluepoint or Sumo. Any game funded by Sony is their game, doesn't matter who the developer is. SIE funds it, owns it, and publishes it.
If they are not funding it, its 3rd party. Like Persona 5, Nioh, and Final Fantasy 7 remake.
BlueXImpulse
Banned
I've always said it. The reason they are screaming that it's anti-consumer is simply because their favorite plastic box isn't doing it. Deep down what they want is a true next gen experience with no ties to older hardware. If the shoe was on the other foot they would be much happier and wouldn't be calling it anti-consumer. What is anti-consumer about it? This is how consoles have always been!
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