JonnyMP3
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pasterpl
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how games like the last of us 2 or ghost of Tsushima are pushing gaming medium further? What are the innovations that these titles introduced to the gaming industry?
lepermessiah
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Yes but when you're streaming that much juice you're going to be twerking in the rain bebe.
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Fortuneelsewhere
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You pay £3 more and you don't own jack shit.. once the subscription is over you get nothing.. (you have a console with no games)
It doesn't sound a good deal to me..
splattered
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Right... which is why people buy the big games and still subscribe to gamepass to play everything else in between which leads to purchases of many other games they never would have experienced otherwise.
Same thinking could be applied to a physical movie buyer vs netflix subscriber argument... "Nah, i only buy the GOOD movies on 4k Ultra HD Bluray and don't waste my time with streaming services - Netflix is trash!"
Whereas the netflix subscribers enjoy tons of good content and still buy the good movies on 4k Ultra HD Bluray as well, they just don't spend all day gloating about it on the internet.
OrionNebula
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Yeah, I've been watching mostly silently. He made A LOT of ''predictions'', based mostly on numbers afaik.
Sept 9th stuck because I think it's the last day ''within PS's 25th anniversary year'' and also because of its link to NA 1995
Grinchy
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Not to mention that games are only on there for specific windows of time. It's not like the Live and PS+ thing where you have the "free" games forever. So you bought yourself the full year of game pass to "save money" and then you bought Cyberpunk, you played it for that month or two, and maybe you find out Red Dead 2 is leaving and you are now left with a save file halfway through the game.
And for those who buy the whole year up front, you don't even know what games will be on the service in the future. It almost reminds me of the people who paid for that loot crate shit back in the day. You hand over money up front to find out later down the line which cheap plastic Chinese shit you will get in the mail 6 months from now.
StarskySilverz
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Personally, I think that Sucker Punch has one more game before they are in the upper tier of developers but TLOU and TLOU II have pushed the gaming medium in a way that can't be understated.
Naughty Dog is at the peak of character animation, story telling, polish, third person shooting etc.
If every game came out to their quality we would be looking at a different industry right now.
MasterCornholio
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Found the thread, it was from Kleegamefan back in October 2019 and he was verified by ZhugeEX.
PS5 Tech Demo Detailed, Called 'Hugely Impressive'
https://gamerant.com/ps5-tech-demo-game/ One such rumor has started a fervor of hype with a user by the name of Kleegamefan giving a first-hand account of a demo for a game that is being developed for the PlayStation 5. For the sake of transparency, it should be made perfectly clear that this...www.neogaf.com
What he said:
He was actually talking about this bush.
I don't think I want to play a game with that kind of a detail.
Heck I can imagine what the title will be.
Genital Lice Simulator : Raiders of the lost bush
FrozenFlame
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On the other hand, if you have interest in Microsoft published titles, you get to play them for a cheaper price. Game pass is $10 a month, right? That's $120 for a year. It already covers the price of two AAA games on release day. Plus, you get to play other games that you didn't want to purchase full price but you don't mind playing it for a cheaper price or if it's included on a service. Finally, people dismiss indie titles, but for those days that I arrive really tired of work, I honestly don't have the mood for story driven games or just going around the world collecting crap. There's where roguelite titles come in. I just play one or two playthroughs while talking with friends and be done for the day.
Lysandros
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In the podcast Matt Hargett talked about fixed function vs fully programmable geometry engines and how the later can help to save memory amount and bandwidth. He talked about the importance of cache speed, latency and size for improving ram bandwidth efficiency. He also said that in RT intensive scenes culling can be problematic and programmability of the polygons would be very important, thus GE.. What can he say more without breaking NDA?
IntentionalPun
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Why are you reporting things being spread on Twitter like it's some inside info you have?
3liteDragon
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Please share it.Okay now there's a 30 second video up.... Its getting serious..
Darklor01
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Right, there is definitely a market for it. I don't know if, but isn't the $10 pricing model going away in favor of one XBOX Gold/Gamepass service merged?
splattered
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Maybe he is the original leaker.. quick, someone check his potato camera!
LiquidRex
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It's an unreleased PS5 Ray Tracing Tech demo....
It's from a twitter user that's leaked a few things over the last few weeks....
Tweets are locked
THE:MILKMAN
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I think this is all related to last weeks Jace_Skell/Foxygames clips that were posted.
3liteDragon
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Dibils2k
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the value in Gamepass is the free 1st party games, not only is it day one but they will stay aslong as there is gamepass
like i still play Horizon 4 and Gears 5 time to time. If it didnt have that feature, i wouldnt be subbed tbh. The 3rd party games are a bonus and there have been some that i spend along time on for a few weeks but usually the ones that i know i will like i buy anyway
problem is currently the 1st party is really weak but if it improves then Gamepass will be a must have for everyone.
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MasterCornholio
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So is it that forest clip?
FrozenFlame
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Dunno, they removed the yearly subscription, I don't think they've done anything else. I'm guessing that we'll know more about XGP future on Thursday. And I have to say, if they remove Xbox Gold and put the multiplayer paywall on XGP, they're really scumbags (and something tells me it will backfire spectacularly).
Darklor01
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HeisenbergFX4 What's happening today?
Didn't H say he's traveling today and will be back tomorrow?
IntentionalPun
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That whole thing was likely just about raising the base price of services by not allowing the bulk/cheap options.
It was hilarious watching everyone come up with reasons why it was somehow going to end up with MS making Gold free or requiring Gamepass to play online lol
AeneaGames
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Iets over Silent Hill, maar wat, geen idee verder. Heerlijk toch iedereen in andere taal praten op een Engelstalig forum!
skneogaf
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I agree with you but if the games keep coming then I won't want to finish the subscription.
If I did want to I'd have an opportunity to purchase the games I liked from game pass at a cheaper price due to them not being new.
Lots of positive and negative things with it.
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Nowcry
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From what happened with his mother, it seems that he is a little discouraged and does not spend much here.
HeisenbergFX4
we love you man, I hope you are well.
Apollo Helios
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Lets call them
Group 1 - Content thrashers - Gen Z kids (and some Gen X irresponsible not-ready-for-adulthood kids) with no responsibility and a lot of free time, constantly need drip feed of "CoNtEnT" IV-drip in their arms and each drop is consumed instantly and each is forgotten almost immediately because seriously all drops are the same as the other.
vs
Group 2 - Quality sipper - Mostly older gamers with less time but likely more money (or can better described as at least conscious of how they are spending their hard earned money) who doesn't need constant trash "CoNteNt" anywhere near them, but want quality memorable experiences that will last them a long time maybe even lifetime, and who will only buy and want to own the said quality experiences and will not finish them instantly but play them over time, so will hate being on the clock and the idea that they are paying by the month to some shitload subscription.
GP is perfect match for Group 1 - we will see how long they can keep ADHD riddled Gen-Z bastards on their subscription services when all other platforms come out with their own services...
Sony PlayStation Studios Games are the perfect match for Group 2 - Only looking at most recent month of revenue during Covid enforced stay-at-home paints the picture that they are not only here to stay, but they are thriving beyond any gaming fad the world previously had. Good luck catching up to that...
Edit: pressed on a key (X) that is right next to what I wanted to write(Z) when describing generations, it happens, sue me.... but you know as well as I do what I meant so stop being Grammar Nazi, it doesn't end well
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IntentionalPun
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Am I on SeniorForums.com?
"Gen X kids"? lol.. Gen X-ers are like 40 years old minimum and go up to age 55.
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Apollo Helios
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Umm let me guess you haven't even played them yourself but going on about others ideas or videos you have watched that can only be partial of the whole, and never same as playing yourself.
Thirty7ven
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Yes we know that "people" subscribe to gamepass. Clearly not all people right? Clearly not even most of the Xbox userbase, or even half of the Xbox userbase, hell make that a third, maybe not even a quarter? As I said, we're talking about the hardcore here.
It's still 120$ a year, this might be flying over your head but that's enough cash for most gamers to consider something else. I can buy 6 20$ games with that.
And yeah, just release demos or have every game with a trial, and case solved. You'll be able to "try" a lot of games.
More like Netflix vs Theaters. Your comparison to physical vs digital makes no sense in this conversation.
I think that if you are mostly looking for TV content, Netflix is simply ahead of everyone else in terms of quantity. But if you're searching for big new movies you don't go to Netflix aside from the very odd release.
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THE:MILKMAN
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It looks like those forest images with 'pre-alpha PS5' watermarked on it are coming from the same Jace_Skell as last weeks Elden ring-like clips (which could a different or the same game).
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Apollo Helios
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see there is the problem, quality stuff day and date is almost always will hit theaters and then finally subscription services and then they are like a drop in the ocean of average to shit CONTENT that you can not even label as good TV or film, they are CONTENT, an umbrella term for mixing in mostly shit Original stuff with world of media that is already available. Some of those media are so cheap or free with ads that you don't have to pay for monthly subscription fee if you are not interested in Netflix Originals for the shit that they mostly are.
Nowcry
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IntentionalPun
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Ghosts is not remotely innovative. Not that there's anything wrong with that.. games are meant to be fun, and it's a fun game..
Sony makes quality / fun games with their AAA studios.. but they aren't really pushing to innovate with their big AAA titles outside of technology/graphics wise. They do plenty of that elsewhere with VR and funding random stuff here or there though.
DrDamn
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TLoU2 for me is a brilliantly significant game in how it deals with story, character empathy and what this medium can do above and beyond what other mediums can. That's mainly in terms of story telling and the emotions you can go through. It's at times very challenging to play, but it's hard not to be impressed with the layers of thought, subtle story cues and the way the game plays out. It's not for everyone for various reasons but it's absolutely a fantastic example of a team pushing the gaming medium further.
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LiquidRex
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LiquidRex
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Don't know what it means but, there's some info for you
Darklor01
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Games which innovate are insanely rare. I mean, what .. Portal Was the last truly innovative game I can think of. Though, Splatoon might be another. Looking for innovative titles might be better in a different thread. Looking for "next gen" titles works here though.
I guess something like Ghost Wire might wind up being something new. No idea.
CrysisFreak
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Oy mate I tell you it's about the fucking game pass zoomers who are nothing like the tasteful boomers with their appreciation for pong, none of that Fartnite Cowadoody bullshit with short attention spans by Phil Spencer and his Microsoft data collection by shilling Game Pass Gold Ultimate Plus for Xbox Series which as you have seen has ruined 343 with diversity and cross-gen!!!
Gen X is not even relevant. Maggots.
Gen X is not even relevant. Maggots.
LiquidRex
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Don't know what it means but, there's some info for you
This plays on a loop and all that can be heard is rain, a lot of rain.
onesvenus
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Wasn't there a policy in place to ban people who claim to be insiders without going through the mods?
TBiddy
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Indeed. At least don't pretend like you know shit, when all you do is copy from Twitter.
Nowcry
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Don't know what it means but, there's some info for you
If they were coordinates
09.7 and 8.26 would place us in Nigeria in a waterfall.
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IntentionalPun
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Yeah that was kind of my point; vast majority of games (and all media really) are just following a formula and maybe trying 1 or 2 small new things if that. Sometimes those little things do catch on though and they become innovations to some extent.
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