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Three Jackdaws
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Haha well said!
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
Random dude on twitter.. hmm must be credible.
Edit: apparently he is a Sony employee.
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Shio
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£449
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Three Jackdaws
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He works for Playstation, also Matt Hargett the Playstation engineer retweeted it. Not saying he's the most credible person but take it as will.
Agnostic2020
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He is a playstation employee
Agnostic2020
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Ps5 is about 520 for sony
450 to 470 bom plus manufacturing plus shipping plus storage plus retailer cut. Around 520. For 299 sony needs to take 220$ loss . Never happening lol
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
Even DF (the supposed experts) were saying the consoles are going to be very expensive $600+ consoles. Then XSX revealed at $499.
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Deleted member 775630
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Sorry if it was already posted.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Nah, its game over at $299.
$399 is still within Microsoft's sandwich strategy Penello and others laid out years ago. They have left sony in a weird position of not having the cheapest or the most powerful console. we will see how the market reacts.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
Uh.. okay then. We shall see. Hopefully very soon that Microsoft got everything out.
Zoro7
Banned
You must be super erect right now....
GreyHand23
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Also left Sony in the weird position of having the most and the best games, but I guess consoles aren't about the games anymore.
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Deleted member 775630
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Do you think a lot about my erections?
ThisIsMyDog
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Nevertheless, all they do is mostly compare the technical aspects of the games, they were unlikely to have secret information about new Nvidia GPU series well before the announcement of RTX3000.
Previously, the situation was that if you wanted a graphics card with a similar power to Series X on a PC, you had to spend $600+. So no wonder they were betting a higher price for next-gen consoles.
Oh fuck. PS1,2,3 BC isn't happening is it.
kyliethicc
Member
He works for Sony.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
i would say $430-450 BOM but yes, $299 is impossible. thats basically PS3 levels of loss taking which cost them all the profits they had earned from the PS1 and PS2 days. Around $3 billion in less than a year i believe.
$299 is wishful thinking just like hoping XSX would be $399. Unless of course Sony sells the DE themselves and takes the retail out of the equation which is possible seeing as how they were having users reserve the console straight with them. even then they would be taking a $150 loss per console which would be $1.5 billion in just five months of sales.
Sethbacca
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BuT gAmEPaSs Is A GrEaT VaLuE!!
Zoro7
Banned
Its the first time....first of many...
kyliethicc
Member
Digital Foundry don't know shit except what the pixel/frame rate counter tells them.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
Even he is tired of stupid insiders.
splattered
Member
Yeah you are right, i guess it depends on which side of the fence the insiders he mentioned actually sit... haha
Maybe that's the point though. Not $400 and not as high as $700.
So somewhere between $500 and $600?
That's what we're all already expecting anyway..
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
have you seen threads on era and gaf, and the general reception among journalists and youtubers? everyone loves this shit.
im not a fan of this focus on bad specs over games either. hell, i just came back from a 1 day ban over it. but im not going to pretend that at $399 sony will kill microsoft.
EliteSmurf
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Treyarch making use of haptic feedback and 3d audio
MasterCornholio
Member
I would be very surprised if the PS5 doesn't hit a similar price point even after Microsoft announced their price. What I'm trying to say is that im not expecting a 200$ price difference between the two systems. Even a 100$ difference seems unlikely to me.
Well see what will happen though.
Chromata
Member
The market historically favors the platform with the best lineup regardless of power and PS5 will steal the show in that regard.
Xbox launching without a key exclusive is a massive blow.
Faithless83
Banned
I'm betting on $449/349.
kyliethicc
Member
Treyarch making use of haptic feedback and 3d audio
"BUT onLy soNy 1sT paRTy gAmEs wilL....."
JTCx
Member
lmao he really got banned?
bu but the mods are my friendzzz
Dudes fake as fuck
LOOOOOL
FranXico
Member
That's just overestimating the price beforehand to make the product sound very cheap once the actual price is announced. Media outlets often do that. One example that comes to mind was the Vita.
jose4gg
Member
Treyarch making use of haptic feedback and 3d audio
Something that was supposed to be used only a couple of times seems like it will be used for every game now...
FunkMiller
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In almost everyone of those threads and posts, what Sony's response will be is talked about - often more than the XBox reveals themselves.
This, as should be pretty obvious, is not what Microsoft want. When Sony trends higher on the day you unveil prices and release dates for your new console, it's clear where the mindshare is.
And the mindshare is with Sony because XBox has developed the perception that it has no games for release that are exclusive. They have to address this, or die on their arse. GamePass is not going to cut it.
Sony will respond soon. Expect game megatons.
Vaztu
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Not the majority in this thread. mostly $499 or $449.
Roronoa Zoro
Gold Member
It's not weird. It's a position Sony is used to from PS1 and PS2
kyliethicc
Member
If PS5 / PS5 DE is priced at $500 / $400 the PS5s will outsell both Xboxes combined this year.
MasterCornholio
Member
That's what I'm expecting but take into account that Microsoft already announced the price. If Sony can go that low they will most likely price match them. Maybe even undercut the XSX with the PS5 DE if they can.
Chromata
Member
Treyarch making use of haptic feedback and 3d audio
The 3d audio and haptic feedback are more integrated additions to conventional gameplay than a touchpad so I have more faith in devs not skimping out on those features.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
But they were saying that about both XSX and PS5.
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chilichote
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I think, PS5 will go with 499€ with Drive and 429€ for the DE.
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splattered
Member
Treyarch making use of haptic feedback and 3d audio
And Xbox Series X will include all of that as well as 3d audio minus the haptic feedback... i can live without that one feature *shrug*
Sony paid them a crap load of marketing money, you can pretty much guarantee Sony is standing over their shoulder right now making them do everything they can to make it appear better on PS5 haha
thebigmanjosh
Member
A $399 PS5 wouldn't kill MS but anything less for the DE and most of MS's hardware value proposition falls apart (assuming the physical is less than $499 as well).
With the inflated ~$450 BOM and XSX pricing, I don't see how anyone could genuinely think PS5 will be over $499. Even if Sony couldn't take advantage of falling NAND prices due to existing contracts, I don't see how $399 is out of reach for the physical PS5, let alone the DE.
FunkMiller
Banned
2 to 1 at that price in America. 3 to 1 elsewhere. Mindshare. Market dominance.
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Self High Five
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Tom Warren is my favorite warrior. He's like Timdog but with proper grammar:
Emmy
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Sony didn't make all these 3rd party deals just for nothing! Developers will more actively use PS5 unique tech thanks to them! Haptic feedback, adaptive triggers, 3D Audio... Everything will be used!
BlueXImpulse
Banned
3D Audio being put to good use!
DeepSpace5D
Member
After watching that loading demo between the two consoles, I have a question for someone much more knowledgeable than myself. Why does the loading timer appear to speed up after the Series S has finished loading? To my untrained eye, it looks as if the timers are going at a normal pace together, and then the One S timer noticeable speeds up after 12 seconds.
Out of curiosity I tried timing it myself and I got around 38-39 seconds when the timer for the One S was at 53. I was thinking maybe they just sped up the video so you don't have to sit through the countdown, but it didn't appear to me that gameplay for the Outer Worlds on the Series S side had been sped up.
Anyone might know a reason for why it appears this way? For a gamer with no tech background like myself, it gives the impression that they wanted to make the loading difference between the One S and the Series S appear greater than it actually is.
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