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SportsFan581
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That suit was ONLY about scratched disks, That's important. There were no suits about RRoD, I'm sure one of the reasons MS jumped on that issue so quickly was to avoid legal issues, along with trying to salvage the brand (which they did). I never scratched a single disk with mine. I can't believe they got a case to the Supreme Court about an issue entirely caused by human stupidity. I don't care what steps could have been taken, you shouldn't be moving the console even a "little bit" while the disk drive is in use.
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FunkMiller
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The console war is like Battle Royale.
Everybody dies, and then Hollywood rips it off extremely badly?
I want to call it shenanigans, but it's too long to type every time.
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(yeah, that's right fish... I've nicked your emoji... aha ha aha ha!)
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kyliethicc
Member
I was gonna get a PS5 anyway, but I'm glad its quiet.
My launch PS4 became so loud after a year or two. Sony Airlines is very real lol. But I have the latest revision of the PS4 Pro (7200 model) and its much quieter. Sony figured their shit out eventually.
So that improvement and how Cerny talked about the fans/cooling, plus how much shit Sony got (rightfully so) for the PS4 fan noise, makes me confident Sony figured out how to keep the PS5 cool and quiet.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
So you didn't clicked the other link I believe that shows how much you don't want ot be informed about it.
Here's another link.
If you can't bother to check it then how can you talk about it ?
Edit : and another lawsuit
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sircaw
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Dont quote me on this but i believe people where trying to give him shit saying 12 flops, feel the power bla bla bla, you know the usual and he responded with the craig face saying where is your 12 tflops now. something like that.
Been so busy with all the ps5 news i cant be 100% sure.
Either way the good news its not a long ban so he be back soon.
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Three Jackdaws
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PSX
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I figured it out. They still believe that Richard's RDNA1 tests of overclocking a 5700 in comparison to a stock 5700XT are relevant when it comes to RDNA2. What Richard did was see how close a 5700 could get to a higher CU 5700XT and it fell short but that's due to the limitations of the architecture at higher clock speeds. This didn't stop Richard though.
Another theory of mine is that they still believe PS5 to be 9TF. 5700 is a 7.9TF GPU (2060 class) and 5700XT is a 9.7TF GPU (2070 class). From what Alex is saying he thinks PS5 falls somewhere in between that which would land it conveniently around the 9TF mark which would be roughly a 2060S.
AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT Specs
AMD Navi 10, 1905 MHz, 2560 Cores, 160 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 8192 MB GDDR6, 1750 MHz, 256 bitwww.techpowerup.com
smallpotatosan
Member
Right on. This is what I was talking about. DF has a clear agenda. It's a shame!
jasondefaoite
Member
Dayum. The PS5 is so cool and quiet people are questioning if the unit was even turned on.
#CablesAreFake
#CablesAreFake
BlueXImpulse
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FunkMiller
Banned
YOU DIED
thirty seconds later
YOU DIED
twelve seconds later
YOU DIED
eight seconds later
YOU DIED
*dualsense embedded in drywall*
Entroyp
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Did he really say DS is not impressive? I don't follow that guy and stopped watching DF videos altogether.
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SportsFan581
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I don't count the cases that get thrown out on merit, no. Let me clarify, there were no settlements made or fines levied in regards to the RRoD, how is that. Other than the $1b warranty program, obviously.
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Tripolygon
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Effects like particles, smoke and things like shadows and reflection are rendered at lower resolution regardless of platform. Raytracing as currently implemented uses lower lod for their bhv. That is precisely what Alex set out to present in that video with examples from PC.
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Md Ray
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I need to see how it looks on the inside. Damn it. I might be the only one who's getting so frustrated over Sony not doing any teardown just yet.
smallpotatosan
Member
Too late for them. The world's coolest console is already sold out
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Great So these lawsuit are OK because a big firm with tons of lawyer won ? I guess nestlé isn't killing people either?
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kyliethicc
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We all want that ASAP, but it was always gonna be in November. Sony do their teardowns at launch. PS4 was Nov 2013, PS4 Pro was Nov 2016. We just gotta wait 4 weeks.
devilNprada
Member
Lol yeah at this point people have until about March to make there decisions.
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Highly accelerated life test - Wikipedia
Typical HALT procedures
Environmental stresses are applied in a HALT procedure,[1] eventually reaching a level significantly beyond that expected during use. The stresses used in HALT are typically hot and cold temperatures, temperature cycles, random vibration, power margining, and power cycling. The product under test is in operation during HALT and is continuously monitored for failures. As stress-induced failures occur, the cause should be determined, and if possible, the problem should be repaired so that the test can continue to find other weaknesses.
Output of the HALT gives you: 1. Multiple failure modes in the product before it is subjected to demonstration testing 2. Operating limits of the product (upper and lower). These can be compared with a designer's margin or supplier specifications 3. Destruct limits of the product (limit at which product functionality is lost and no recovery can be made)
References[edit]
- ^ Staff (1998–2012). "What is HALT HASS » Performing HALT". Qualmark. Qualmark Corporation. Archived from the original on March 1, 2012. Retrieved 10 June 20
of course, MS knew, but was desperate to enter the market a year before the competition.
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azertydu91
Hard to Kill
There's multiple lawsuits and reports from journalists beside they should have tested thoses consoles and that about 50% failure weren't apparent to them ?
Do you also think that Nintendo doesn't know about the joycon drifts?
SportsFan581
Member
I'm refuting the fact that MS knew about the RRoD issue before the console released. Which would be a crazy thing to think, especially with how quickly they responded to the issue once it was known. If they knew before launch they would have just gone with a 3yr full replacement warranty to start with and marketed it as a sign of how confident they were in their product (while secretly saving them a lot of bad press regarding the issue when it was first getting reported).
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Listen who care about their warranty ?Are you happy that Nintendo repair your joycon or fucking pissed that they are still producing it ?
Sure they handled it pretty good but you can't have a 50% failure rate on your product and not know about it.
pasterpl
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that guy mentioned that he downloaded over 400gb of games so it might be this what caused console to work while in standby mode
yewles1
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And thus we go right back to Ali Salehi's interview stating XSX can't access all it's CU's concurrently.
(*) Ali Salehi, a rendering engineer at Crytek contrasts the next Gen consoles in interview (Up: Tweets/Article removed)
Original find belongs to @M-V2, I did translation and some editing and @CJY had also made a translation post in Next Gen Thread. Someone sent me this and very interesting reading... If it's not tralsated them translate it on Google chrome https://vigiato.net/p/85342 Edit 1: @benjohn is a...
HeisenbergFX4
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That pretty LED 
Neo Blaster
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He was accused of being ComeFromNearFuture alt? Didn't know the guy was Brazilian.IbelieveinGenerations was permed
SportsFan581
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Failure that occurs 6-9 months after sale (sometimes years) might not be that easy to spot in QA, no. Once they knew about the issue, they had a hard time correcting it (Bach claims the issue wasn't completely corrected until the slim release).
D Deto the RRoD was ultimately caused by the flexing of the MB caused by the system heating and then cooling (which allowed the GPU or CPU to pop off the board eventually). HALT testing doesn't show things like that very well. The 360 didn't overheat in a traditional sense, silicone temps were within acceptable ranges. Plus, most of the 360 QA testing was done with lead based solder, that at the time resulted in a better initial set during the manufacturing process.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
And that happens also way before the 9 months period that you conveniently forgot.And do you think that when they test the console they just bring them home and normaly play ?They don't stress test everything possible? That's such a naive way of thinking.The truth is that the european lead free solder law fucked them and they just said fuck it.
To recap your points is there are no lawsuit ....... well yeah there are but I dismissed them because they have good lawyers ...... to they couldn't know because the first wave of problem happened after 8 months of normal use.... to yeah they stress test it but it couldn't have shown up for reasons.... to yeah it happen sometimes faster than 9 months but it's just bad luck.
And the most relevant of points yeah but they upped the warranty.....which has nothing to do about the fact that they knew they had a fuckton of faulty units.
jimbojim
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Three Jackdaws
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The stresses used in HALT are typically hot and cold temperatures, temperature cycles, random vibration, power margining, and power cycling. The product under test is in operation during HALT and is continuously monitored for failures. As stress-induced failures occur, the cause should be determined, and if possible, the problem should be repaired so that the test can continue to find other weaknesses.
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sircaw
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Besides that loading i really liked that clip from god fall, i actually felt that death lol,
game has grown on me.
jasondefaoite
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
It was without a tag ffs.
You're always loved, like Pele. 
Moridianae
Member
Welp! The dream of next gen in our own home just inched closer!
Received confirmation our loan is approved...appraisal is tomorrow! Must know results by end of this coming week. That's the final hurdle.
Received confirmation our loan is approved...appraisal is tomorrow! Must know results by end of this coming week. That's the final hurdle.
xacto
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At this point, Battaglia is a sad clown.
Entroyp
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I preordered this game to play with a couple of friends. I was not too impressed at first but it grew on me after the latest combat trailer.
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Imtjnotu
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That pretty LED
Great now the blue light bar will drain the console Battery
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dotnotbot
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My sources say this blue light drains 5 TF from the console's power.
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