Imtjnotu
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HAL-01
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im sure Insomniac would be truly delighted to have your technical input Mr. Socks
captainraincoat
Banned
Will let Microsoft address it tomorrow when they buy sega 
I think the numbers are just the wrong way around
I think the numbers are just the wrong way around
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Alright guys I had my usual 4 hours of sleep I think it is now time to talk about what happenned with
Bo_Hazem
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Schizophrenia is a severe pathology and should not be taken lightly, maybe we should all raise awareness and keeps our both hands in the air to symbolize the fight between 2 or more personalities, if you have more than 2 hands, I encourage you to raise them all.
For thosder having problems to type on the keyboard you can use you nose, a pen in your mouth I tried using my dick but it was too big, It went from A all the way to Z ....... And since I'm french my keyboard is in azerty configuration....
Wait why are you laughing ..... guys
My totally real says size doesn't matter ...She's real Okay? she even bought a new mic for Singstar ..... but it only vibrates ..... and we don't play Singstar ..... She calls it her magic mic....
But seriously what happenned to BO ?
Bo_Hazem
.Schizophrenia is a severe pathology and should not be taken lightly, maybe we should all raise awareness and keeps our both hands in the air to symbolize the fight between 2 or more personalities, if you have more than 2 hands, I encourage you to raise them all.
For thosder having problems to type on the keyboard you can use you nose, a pen in your mouth I tried using my dick but it was too big, It went from A all the way to Z ....... And since I'm french my keyboard is in azerty configuration....
Wait why are you laughing ..... guys
My totally real says size doesn't matter ...She's real Okay? she even bought a new mic for Singstar ..... but it only vibrates ..... and we don't play Singstar ..... She calls it her magic mic....
But seriously what happenned to BO ?
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Could be just YouTube's compression at work.
Here's a screen from the PS5 trailer I posted
Here's a screen from todays XSX footage
MrFunSocks
Banned
Ok.....?
It’s a low precision RT implementation. We can all see it - trees that are reflected are missing half their geometry or more. They’re lower LOD models. You can see reflections of things like cars that you shouldn’t be able to see because they are obscured by trees, but in the reflections the tree branches and leaves aren’t there lol.
This isn’t controversial, it’s right there for everyone to see in officially released screenshots. The character model reflection on buildings isn’t even RT’d, it’s screen space reflection.
Why do you call me out explicitly for saying this in a thread where there are dozens of people criticising games and their graphics? Oh I snuck a peek at your post history, now I know why.
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Neko Mimi Mode
Member
Like a Dragon will be exactly the same on PS5 as XsX.
Yakuza Kiwami 2 had parity on Xbox One X and PS4 Pro at 1080p/30fps despite the obvious advantage/headroom of the One X - Sega don't bother optimising these games and they are just huge GPU hogs for no good reason.
Yakuza Kiwami 2 had parity on Xbox One X and PS4 Pro at 1080p/30fps despite the obvious advantage/headroom of the One X - Sega don't bother optimising these games and they are just huge GPU hogs for no good reason.
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Zoro7
Banned
I’m not saying it’s amazing quality. But it’s some of the better RT we have seen on next gen consoles. RT is very expensive so I can’t see us getting much better on these consoles especially on open world games.
MrFunSocks
Banned
The significantly higher CU count on the series X should give better quality RT, but yeh I agree we won’t be seeing 100% match RT. Spider-Man is also a PS4 game running in high res, so if that’s the best they could get for it then yeh it doesn’t bode well for actual next gen games. Insomniac are a top tier dev too, so it’s not like they just can’t do it well.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Alright guys I had my usual 4 hours of sleep I think it is now time to talk about what happenned with
Schizophrenia is a severe pathology and should not be taken lightly, maybe we should all raise awareness and keeps our both hands in the air to symbolize the fight between 2 or more personalities, if you have more than 2 hands, I encourage you to raise them all.
For thosder having problems to type on the keyboard you can use you nose, a pen in your mouth I tried using my dick but it was too big, It went from A all the way to Z ....... And since I'm french my keyboard is in azerty configuration....
Wait why are you laughing ..... guys
My totally real says size doesn't matter ...She's real Okay? she even bought a new mic for Singstar ..... but it only vibrates ..... and we don't play Singstar ..... She calls it her magic mic....
But seriously what happenned to BO ?
I was so selfish and voted for The Witcher 3 against Bloodborne, a PS4 icon. Gafers called me a traitor.
The Witcher 3 vs. Bloodborne
Another note: You can't shag women in Bloodborne. That's another plus for The Witcher 3.
Started questioning myself, my loyalty, my purpose in life. Xboxers asked me to join the dark side, then asked me to make a thread to counter my recent Kraken thread.
Kraken Vs ZLIB: 29% Smaller Game Sizes Losslessly, 297% Faster Decompression on PS5
Kraken VS ZLIB: According to the official graph by RAD Game Tools, Kraken has 29% higher compression ratio over ZLIB (used in PS4 and other platforms), and does it 3-5x faster (doesn't really concern us as gamers, only good for devs). Both Kraken and ZLIB are lossless compressions, meaning data...
Timdog, Dealer and the rest were asking me to join on a podcast for my confession. Then I fainted...
I see something... yes, it's him... the savior...
Then I rebooted and got the latest Pony... sorry, Sony firmware update. And I returned to what people know me as...
Just Bo.
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ArcaneNLSC
Member
I was so selfish and voted for The Witcher 3 against Bloodborne, a PS4 icon. Gafers called me as a traitor.
The Witcher 3 vs. Bloodborne
Another note: You can't shag women in Bloodborne. That's another plus for The Witcher 3.www.neogaf.com
Started questioning myself, my loyalty, my purpose in life. Xboxers asked me to join the dark side, then asked me to make a thread to counter my recent Kraken thread.
Kraken Vs ZLIB: 29% Smaller Game Sizes Losslessly, 297% Faster Decompression on PS5
Kraken VS ZLIB: According to the official graph by RAD Game Tools, Kraken has 29% higher compression ratio over ZLIB (used in PS4 and other platforms), and does it 3-5x faster (doesn't really concern us as gamers, only good for devs). Both Kraken and ZLIB are lossless compressions, meaning data...
Timdog, Dealer and the rest were asking me to join on a podcast for my confession. Then I fainted...
I see something... yes, it's him... the savior...
Then I rebooted and got the latest Pony... sorry, Sony firmware update. And I returned to what people know me as...
Just Bo.
xacto
Member
Has anyone seenxacto , my beloved first moggy is missing, and has not come home.
AeneaGames is still here but that's more to do with shes to large to leave the house.
If your reading this Comeback
Cat's on the way to Burger King. Be right back.
AeneaGames
Member
Ehmm, not sure why you felt the need to tag me here?
I can both know how the DS5 is better and a huge improvement over all the other existing controllers and still appreciate that there have been some very expensive custom controllers out there too which have other benefits over the base controllers that have been included with consoles.
I am positive that Scuf and other companies are going to make new custom ones for the PS5. If they do it the same way as before they will add features making it even better and more expensive...
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LivingD3AD
Member
Yakuza 7 seems to run at the following settings:
Series X: 4K/30, 1440p/60
Series S: 1440p/30, 900p/60
PS4 Pro: 1080p/30
Xbox One X: 1080p/30fps
PS4: 900p/30
Xbox One S: 720/30fps
AeneaGames
Member
Agnostic2020
Member
geordiemp
Member
You think ray tracing is linked to CU number ? Its going to be a long generation of dissapointment.
I believe Ps5 will be better in this regard, so those patches may be a long wait...
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Not comparing, sorry. But thought you invest in several controllers so thought you might like this.
Snowdonhoffen
Member
It doesn't make sense, we have XSX videos running the game at 4K/60. Unless it's running at an uncapped framerate and they decide to lock it at 30fps when it releases.
Garani
Member
Hmm.....I wonder if the Orange is in any way related to the Expansion NVMe drive. Cerny did say that:
But who knows. Definitely looking forward to learning what those chips actually are as well as their function.
It's a bit far, I doubt it. But without a teardown with better pictures it's hard to tell.
Care of Microsoft
Snowdonhoffen
Member
I guess now "Fake 4K" is not as bad as it was some weeks ago.Damn I still remember all the trolling after demon souls with that fesility was said to he 1440p 60 fps. Karma I guess .
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Damn I still remember all the trolling after demon souls with that fesility was said to he 1440p 60 fps. Karma I guess .
Imagine being that casual boy that stock with 720p-900p with XO FAT to continue with 900p for another 7 years with the hard-to-beat bargain that's known as Xbox Series S, S stands for "Suffering".
MastaKiiLA
Member
Don't you think it's weird to be criticizing the RT on the PS5 games, and then making these bold claims about the XSX's RT, when the PS5 has already demonstrated realtime RT in 3-4 launch window games (at dynamic 4k), while the XSX hasn't shown it in any games at all yet? I'm not saying the XSX won't have it, or that the XSX won't be better at it, but you're basis for these assumptions is shaky at best, non-existent at worst.
As others have already noted, the way RT is working in the Spidey screenshots is how it will be used throughout this generations. Reflections generally don't need maximum detail, unless you're working with a perfect mirror. Better to go for performance over quality. Also, I don't think it's been properly concluded that Spiderman himself was reflected with SSR. That was a theory by Jon from DF. I believe VFX suggested another theory, that there was an offset value set for the reflection, that resulted in the visible clipping.
AeneaGames
Member
Not comparing, sorry. But thought you invest in several controllers so thought you might like this.
Ah, lol, yeah. Well tbh I've decided to not be so crazy this time around. I will buy something that gives me back buttons or paddles tho since I will seriously miss those.
And as for colours, nah, not going to do that either unless controller faceplates is a thing, then I will buy those!
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Dude when you question yourself you might be going too far....Don't question your sexuality you'll probably try to fuck every living species on this planet ...I was so selfish and voted for The Witcher 3 against Bloodborne, a PS4 icon. Gafers called me as a traitor.
The Witcher 3 vs. Bloodborne
Another note: You can't shag women in Bloodborne. That's another plus for The Witcher 3.
Started questioning myself, my loyalty, my purpose in life. Xboxers asked me to join the dark side, then asked me to make a thread to counter my recent Kraken thread.
Kraken Vs ZLIB: 29% Smaller Game Sizes Losslessly, 297% Faster Decompression on PS5
Kraken VS ZLIB: According to the official graph by RAD Game Tools, Kraken has 29% higher compression ratio over ZLIB (used in PS4 and other platforms), and does it 3-5x faster (doesn't really concern us as gamers, only good for devs). Both Kraken and ZLIB are lossless compressions, meaning data...
Timdog, Dealer and the rest were asking me to join on a podcast for my confession. Then I fainted...
I see something... yes, it's him... the savior...
Then I rebooted and got the latest Pony... sorry, Sony firmware update. And I returned to what people know me as...
Just Bo.
sircaw
that might be an opportunity for you.
BatSu
Member
AC Valhall 4K 60 flames(fps)Or so they say.
The problem is not the console, but the vague developers.
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Deleted member 775630
Unconfirmed Member
How is this karma? This game will be releasing on PS5 too...Damn I still remember all the trolling after demon souls with that graphical fidelity was said to be 1440p 60 fps. Karma I guess .
Jen_yakzua
Member
This is what happens when you don't Pre order
Zoro7
Banned
Not at 900p though.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
MrFunSocks
Banned
Not for $299 like the Series S either.
It’s amazing that people here think that the Series S is made for people with 4K TVs.
ToadMan
Member
The first thing I’d say is the yakuza engine is pretty badly optimised. PCs struggled with the older games.
The second thing - having watched that stream, is that to me that is basically a last gen game not optimised for Xsex.
I think they probably just rebuilt the last gen code and compressed it to get the benefit of the SSD - the loading times did look good - but otherwise they’re just relying on cpu/gpu grunt to get what performance they got. There wasn’t any next gen optimisation done.
So personally I’d put Yak and Dirt in a category of being firmly cross gen games - basically BC games just recompiled and compressed for SSD performance but little else. Effectively just BC games patched
So when you look at how the game runs on last gen - doubling the frames or res is about what you get from twice as much power.
So for now I wouldn’t take these 2 games as indicating a particular issue with the Xsex. I’m confident that Dirt at least will look the same on PS5. Yak might be improved by the time of the PS5 release and I guess there’ll be an Xsex patch by then if thats the case.
They’re not good looking games - they aren’t really next gen games - so I’ll give a pass to the systems until we see something more next gen focused.
Zoro7
Banned
But the PS5 starts from only a 100 dollars more.
LivingD3AD
Member
4K/60fps on PS5?! This is gonna be shitshow lol
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
Neko Mimi Mode
Member
He deleted it after he was (rightly) called out for the YT videos he used as a reference not actually being 4k.
It's going to be parity with XbX.
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LivingD3AD
Member
Seems like Thursday is the UI day. Stay tuned for some good shit!
MrFunSocks
Banned
$100 is a lot of money to a lot of the console buying population.
ArcaneNLSC
Member
He wasn't quite at the top of the food chain as he thought I guess
Folks
Just dropping by while I have a minute before work. Since the last post, we have reply banned 18 people from the thread who are unable to stay on topic, or use the thread as a vehicle to wave their fanboy flags like they are on the French barricades. The persistent derails in every thread about 'DF are bias' are tiresome. The offer is out there, and has been for some time, for anyone to make a dedicated thread about credibility and legitimacy. Of course, this takes more time and effort than posting the latest tweet or repeating the one line matra some people live by.
Every thread is not going to turn into a dumping round for the latest tweet or the latest rebuttal of a DF video. If you want to put the time in to start an actual thread with sources and actual evidence with contrary viewpoints and rebuttals that is fine, but the time for 'DF are shills', 'DF are bias' driveby posts has passed. This also applies to the opposing 'NXGamer is a sony fanboy'. As you all know, this will no doubt become more of an issue when the DF comparison video's start getting published. And the same applies, each thread is not going to turn into some childish finger pointing and back and forth shouting unless it's contained in one thread which is actually about the topic at hand.
Just dropping by while I have a minute before work. Since the last post, we have reply banned 18 people from the thread who are unable to stay on topic, or use the thread as a vehicle to wave their fanboy flags like they are on the French barricades. The persistent derails in every thread about 'DF are bias' are tiresome. The offer is out there, and has been for some time, for anyone to make a dedicated thread about credibility and legitimacy. Of course, this takes more time and effort than posting the latest tweet or repeating the one line matra some people live by.
Every thread is not going to turn into a dumping round for the latest tweet or the latest rebuttal of a DF video. If you want to put the time in to start an actual thread with sources and actual evidence with contrary viewpoints and rebuttals that is fine, but the time for 'DF are shills', 'DF are bias' driveby posts has passed. This also applies to the opposing 'NXGamer is a sony fanboy'. As you all know, this will no doubt become more of an issue when the DF comparison video's start getting published. And the same applies, each thread is not going to turn into some childish finger pointing and back and forth shouting unless it's contained in one thread which is actually about the topic at hand.
jimbojim
Banned
It'a not for what PS5 Digital Edition is compared to XSS
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Deleted member 775630
Unconfirmed Member
No shit, one is 10TF console, the other 4TF... No one ever expected the Xbox Series S to keep up with the PS5
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
So it's aimed at 1440P/30fps Tv owners or people that don't want to fully enjoy their 1080p TVs ?Sure that seems like a good market, I guess?
Zoro7
Banned
With a price difference of only 100 dollars.
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