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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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azertydu91

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yurinka said:
I think it's more realistic to expect 1080p/60fps, because most tvs support that and Series S has a third of the Series X GPU horsepower and less RAM. And well, there almost no 1440p in the market, which is full of 1080p tvs.
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I answered a bit later that it would makes more sense to just be a 1080p console and not a 900p/1440p beause it is an hybrid position that I can't see contempt anyone besides MS fans that absolutely can't spend more than 300$.
Because its resolution is sometimes too much for 1080p TV and sometimes too low.
 
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MasterCornholio

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J_Gamer.exe said:
Ahh ok. Just seen what it was and it was loading the 4k image quality mode on the 15 seconds video with loads of cars and a big track.

So as well as different games modes is it possibly also on lower res modes that load much lower assets for the higher framerates?
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That would make sense. Afterall we did see the video and nobody accused it if being altered. I wouldn't be surprised if the loading varies between the different modes.
 
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jasondefaoite

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MrFunSocks said:
It’s aimed at 1080p tv owners or people that just want to play next gen games at a almost mass market price. Not hard to understand.

There are no 1440p TVs. 1440p will supersample down on a 1080p tv for an even better picture. Since 4K tv ownership is like 2% of the market, where even on this forum it’s the vast majority, a cheap 1080p console is a great idea.
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thebigmanjosh

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MrFunSocks said:
It’s aimed at 1080p tv owners or people that just want to play next gen games at a almost mass market price. Not hard to understand.

There are no 1440p TVs. 1440p will supersample down on a 1080p tv for an even better picture. Since 4K tv ownership is like 2% of the market, where even on this forum it’s the vast majority, a cheap 1080p console is a great idea.
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You might want to check those stats.

4K ownership worldwide is over 50̶%̶ 30% as of 2018, and I’d imagine that’s much higher now considering 4K sets have made up 50%+ of yearly tv sales since then. Not to mention tech enthusiasts/gamers are probably upgrading their sets more often than the average consumer.

Source: https://www.statista.com/statistics/736142/4k-ultra-hdtv-us-household-penetration/
 
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IntentionalPun

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azertydu91 said:
I answered a bit later that it would makes more sense to just be a 1080p console and not a 900p/1440p beause it is an hybrid position that I can't see contempt anyone besides MS fans that absolutely can't spend more than 300$.
Because its resolution is sometimes too much for 1080p TV and sometimes too low.
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1440p will be sharper on a 1080p TV than a straight 1080p image.
 
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MrFunSocks

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IntentionalPun

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MrFunSocks said:
There’s a giant difference between sales in a year and overall market share. How many years worth of non-4K TVs are there compared to 45% of 2018s sales in that market?
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Your 2% stat still seems pretty low and pulled out of your ass lol

I really do think Sony pricing the DE at $400 is a killer for the XSS. Yes $100 matters, but a lot less than $200 (approaching "double the price" mentally)... and the ROI on that $100 is pretty massive.
 
thebigmanjosh

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IntentionalPun said:
That's for new TV sales.

Not saying the 2% number is accurate; but you can't deem ownership numbers from new TV sales.
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Whoops, wrong link: https://www.statista.com/statistics/736142/4k-ultra-hdtv-us-household-penetration/

30% ownership in 2018, and much higher if ownership trended consistently with adoption.

MrFunSocks said:
There’s a giant difference between sales in a year and overall market share. How many years worth of non-4K TVs are there compared to 45% of 2018s sales in that market?
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You’re right there is a big difference, but many people have owned 1080p sets for what, 10-15 years? 4K TVs are dirt cheap now and the data suggests 40%-50% adoption.

Either way, 2% is not even close to being factual, especially for tech enthusiasts/gamers.
 
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sircaw

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azertydu91 said:
Alright guys I had my usual 4 hours of sleep I think it is now time to talk about what happenned with Bo_Hazem Bo_Hazem .
Schizophrenia is a severe pathology and should not be taken lightly, maybe we should all raise awareness and keeps our both hands in the air to symbolize the fight between 2 or more personalities, if you have more than 2 hands, I encourage you to raise them all.

For thosder having problems to type on the keyboard you can use you nose, a pen in your mouth I tried using my dick but it was too big, It went from A all the way to Z ....... And since I'm french my keyboard is in azerty configuration....
Wait why are you laughing ..... guys
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My totally real says size doesn't matter ...She's real Okay? she even bought a new mic for Singstar ..... but it only vibrates ..... and we don't play Singstar ..... She calls it her magic mic....
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But seriously what happenned to BO ?
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Bo_Hazem Bo_Hazem is trying to build up a ban resistance, its that simple, Bo is trying to side up with the xbox crowd to build up goodwill for what is coming in the next few weeks. I have already seen the blueprints, bo is going full out postal.

He needs to build a buffer, what he has done the last 24 hours, has bought himself goodwill as an impartial observer. Mod of War: Remastered Mod of War: Remastered will remember these posts and be fooled into thinking as Bo backing team green and in doing so will be seen as straight down the middle, honest and sincere.

It will stop him from getting banned for at least a couple hundred posts. "lollipop_disappointed:

That will teach you for triggering me with a thousand Doncabesa Doncabesa 's

I am still catching up, if Bo has gone back to the ps5 side this post ain't going to age well, ~OH SHIT "lollipop_disappointed:
 
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sircaw

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azertydu91 said:
I have had a lot of crash on Ps4 though but I found out why a simple faulty external HDD.
Because, and that might surprise even the most tech knowledgeable people here ( geordiemp geordiemp try to follow I know it will be hard for you even with all that knowledge), when you unplug an external Hdd while playing a game stored on it the game crashes.

So I'm not the most knowledgeable people here but I guess not being able to access gamedata might be the reason.

Thank y'all for coming to my TEDTalk and see you next week for another one.
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Seriously wtf does geordiemp geordiemp give you in terms of tech updates that i don'T

You just wait till 4 weeks time when i give you down my technical breakdown of the ps5 and the xbox. You will never look at that Charlatan ever again. :messenger_grimmacing_
 
Zadom

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Bill O'Rights said:
Folks


Just dropping by while I have a minute before work. Since the last post, we have reply banned 18 people from the thread who are unable to stay on topic, or use the thread as a vehicle to wave their fanboy flags like they are on the French barricades. The persistent derails in every thread about 'DF are bias' are tiresome. The offer is out there, and has been for some time, for anyone to make a dedicated thread about credibility and legitimacy. Of course, this takes more time and effort than posting the latest tweet or repeating the one line matra some people live by.


Every thread is not going to turn into a dumping round for the latest tweet or the latest rebuttal of a DF video. If you want to put the time in to start an actual thread with sources and actual evidence with contrary viewpoints and rebuttals that is fine, but the time for 'DF are shills', 'DF are bias' driveby posts has passed. This also applies to the opposing 'NXGamer is a sony fanboy'. As you all know, this will no doubt become more of an issue when the DF comparison video's start getting published. And the same applies, each thread is not going to turn into some childish finger pointing and back and forth shouting unless it's contained in one thread which is actually about the topic at hand.
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I found the DF cop!
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jasondefaoite

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Orky said:
extremely misleading though. The PS5 is much much bigger. Just look at the pic and compare the size of the dualsense compared to the console and then look at your pics:

PS5 is def. bigger than 2 DS controllers lol
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Looks correct to me. PS5 height is 390mm, and the width of one dualsense is 160mm. There is a gap between both dualsense and they are also in the middle of the PS5 (don't line up with the bottom or top of the console. So, lines up correctly.

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Darklor01

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LiquidRex said:
Preorders available here in 6 hrs... For those fortunate to be in the USA.

Sony Playstation 5 - antonline.com

Sony Playstation 5
www.antonline.com www.antonline.com

I'm looking out for other territories.
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www.sitejabber.com

ANTOnline Reviews - 1.6 Stars

202 reviews for ANTOnline, 1.6 stars: 'I found antonline listed on the Microsoft website. For that reason, I chose to trust them. Took one week to process the order, multiple days to transfer it to UPS and now it is stuck at the shipping location. It's super hard to get anyone on the phone and...
www.sitejabber.com www.sitejabber.com
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I'm not sure I'd order from them.
 
danielJackson

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thebigmanjosh said:
Whoops, wrong link: https://www.statista.com/statistics/736142/4k-ultra-hdtv-us-household-penetration/

30% ownership in 2018, and much higher if ownership trended consistently with adoption.



You’re right there is a big difference, but many people have owned 1080p sets for what, 10-15 years? 4K TVs are dirt cheap now and the data suggests 40%-50% adoption.

Either way, 2% is not even close to being factual, especially for tech enthusiasts/gamers.
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From my friends and relatives, majority still own 1080p TV. Small sample, but most people I know upgrade their TVs every 5-10 years

Some do it more often, but mostly because they buy Samsung/LG tvs and they break in few years usually.

As Sony superfan I have suggested Sony TVs to everyone I know, and people whom have bought them use them fucking long, because none have been broken.

My 1080p ~600€ as new at 2014 Sony have been on for average of maybe 10h day for 6 years and the fucker just dont die. I would like to get Sony OLED but I think I use this for few years more. Smasung owner friends have more opportunities to upgrade as their panels or condensators have always failed in 1-3 years. Probably bad luck partly

But the point is, casual + non-rich people often keep their TV for loooong time unless it breaks

At least I'm not actively use my 1995 21" Sony crt, still working like new for retro games :)
 
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chonga

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LiquidRex said:
Curry's UK offline for maintenance... I wonder why 🤔

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Preorder prep maybe 🤔
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Been like that for a while.

Also they've started to get people to confirm their pre-orders for Xbox. Emails have been sent with codes to buy the consoles on the main site. It seems what they've done is jack the price up of the Xbox consoles by £2,000 and then when you enter your code at checkout you'll get £2,005 off the price (£2,000 off the jacked up price plus £5 deposit you already paid).
 
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jasondefaoite

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X-Fighter said:
How is he wrong? 2x the width of the DS4 is still smaller than the height of the PS5.

PS 5 dimensions: 390mm x 260mm x 104mm
DS 4 dimensions: 162mm × 52mm × 98mm
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Because he claimed the PS5 size was misleading as it should be much much bigger than shown using both DualSense in the photo as reference.

Basically claiming the size was edited to make it appear smaller.

So yeah he is wrong.
 
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Antelope

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danielJackson said:
From my friends and relatives, majority still own 1080p TV. Small sample, but most people I know upgrade their TVs every 5-10 years

Some do it more often, but mostly because they buy Samsung/LG tvs and they break in few years usually.

As Sony superfan I have suggested Sony TVs to everyone I know, and people whom have bought them use them fucking long, because none have been broken.

My 1080p ~600€ as new at 2014 Sony have been on for average of maybe 10h day for 6 years and the fucker just dont die. I would like to get Sony OLED but I think I use this for few years more. Smasung owner friends have more opportunities to upgrade as their panels or condensators have always failed in 1-3 years. Probably bad luck partly

But the point is, casual + non-rich people often keep their TV for loooong time unless it breaks

At least I'm not actively use my 1995 21" Sony crt, still working like new for retro games :)
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I had a budget 1080p Samsung that I just replaced after 8 years. My toddler ripped all the cables out, messing up connections, otherwise it was pretty reliable.

I did replace it with a Sony 950g and I love it. I tried OLED, but the upscaling was terrible and I didn’t like worrying about burn in. Very happy with the Sony, especially since it cost 300 less than the 900h.
 
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jasondefaoite said:
Because he claimed the PS5 size was misleading as it should be much much bigger than shown using both DualSense in the photo as reference.

Basically claiming the size was edited to make it appear smaller.

So yeah he is wrong.
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Oh like that. Yeah he is wrong. I think those dimensions are correct.
 
sircaw

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Ok, reality check time.

I watched quite a lot of dirt 5 gameplay last night on the new xbox and i am not feeling this game at all.
this game is releasing on both consoles and i must admit i am very disappointed in what i have seen.

Is this really a next-gen game, perhaps the game plays really well and the handling is superb but in terms of graphics map design, it feels to me very bland.

Granted i am not a racing fan and perhaps others are really happy with what they are seeing, when i saw Demon souls i like fuck yer that is incredible, i watch dirt 5 and sometimes i am not sure i am even watching a next-gen game.

no disrespect to Codemasters but the last Forza game looks so much better to me, am i missing something?
 
Tripolygon

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2 Games from PS5 incompatible list are getting patched.

TT Isle of Man 2 Will Receive PS5 Backwards Compatibility Update

DWVR

But one game is not getting patched it seems.

Shadwen Won't Be Backwards Compatible on PS5

In the case of Shadwen, it's actually due to a major issue encountered in load screens. A Frozenbyte representative told us: "We have a lot of PS4 games that are playable on PS5, including all of the Trine games and Nine Parchments. However, for some reason, Shadwen freezes on the loading screen. If this happened on one of our newer games, we'd probably figure out the reason quickly. Unfortunately, Shadwen is quite old, using an older version of our engine, and we don't have it up and running anymore."
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Hopefully Sony will be able to fix it on their own end as they improve their software.
 
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